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Skip99
01-08-2017, 5:42 PM
Hello all, newbie to loading here. I want to start with my 30-30. Looking for bullets I see that the same one can be used for 30-30, .308. 300 Win Mag etc. Why is this when my 30-30 is supposed to have the round nose bullets in the tube?

maxx03
01-08-2017, 6:00 PM
Loading pointed bullets in the tube mag may cause the tip to set off a primer.

Exodus343
01-08-2017, 6:00 PM
Tubular magazine
Your bullet will touch the next round's primer and so on

Skip99
01-08-2017, 6:25 PM
That's my point. I don't get why the manufacturer is listing the same bullet for all those applications.

rromeo
01-08-2017, 6:26 PM
Not all 30-30s use tubular magazines.

WMG
01-08-2017, 6:30 PM
Another thing to keep in mind if not already is , not all .308 bullets are made to function as intended at 30-30 speeds.
For general example a certain bullet made for 300 win mag velocity may not expand as intended when poking along at 30-30 speeds.
For the record my wife has a lot of years with the Hornady 170gr F.P loaded with Reloder 15 and I will say that bullet has performed very well.

I also have a 35rem in a Marlin and I do know people who have used pointed bullets in their guns and lived to tell about it HOWEVER it is not advised to do so and if you have ever seen a Remington 14 with it's spiral tube mag , the purpose of that was to keep the bullet tip from contacting the primer in front of it.

ojisan
01-08-2017, 6:31 PM
Once you get dialed in to reloading, you can make "load two" rounds using pointed bullets.
With these loads, you only "load two" into the magazine tube.
You lever the action to feed and fire the first one, since there is only one left in the mag then, there is no danger of it going off.
Otherwise, you do have to use round nose, flat nose or polymer nose bullets in tube mags.

MrElectric03
01-08-2017, 7:04 PM
You CAN use many different ones but have to be careful. As noted above plated bullets shouldn't go past 1200 fps so generally a no go in a .308/.30-06/.300WM. .30-30 is a great hunting round though so as long as you don't load a bunch in the tube you can use a more aggressive hunting bullet.

Divernhunter
01-08-2017, 7:10 PM
As pointed out bullets designed for hunting in a 300win mag will have very poor terminal performance at 30-30 speeds.
Years ago(before the internet) we loaded Sierra 165gr HPBT hunting bullets in our 30-06. They were terrible. Some deer where hit(good hits) more than once and ran off to be shot by another hunter in our group using different bullets/cartridges. We found nice pencil size holes thru them. I wrote(that is what we did in the stone ages) to Sierra and they responded with a letter saying that that bullet was designed for mag rifles and were not a good choice for the 30-06/308win and such. They did not explain why they had data for that bullet listed for the 30-06/308win/7.62X54/7.5X55 Swiss/300Savage30-40krag. That was one of my 1st lessons on carefully researching and choosing the proper bullet MATCHED to the cartridge and game to be hunted.
In fact when I make light loads(read lower speed and recoil) for friends in 30cal I use the 150gr RN bullets designed for the 30-30 so that they get good terminal performance. It works well. If I load those same 30-30 cup-n-core type bullets up to hot 30-06 speed they can fail to do their job.

I suggest you stick with bullets designed for the 30-30(150-170gr RN or the Barnes Bullet designed for the 30-30) for better terminal performance and your own safety from having the rounds in the tube touch off.

Skip99
01-08-2017, 9:45 PM
Learning more every day. So to start with, 30-30 only. Thanks all for the info.

LD-Ordie
01-15-2017, 7:53 PM
I've been using 150gr FP designed for a 30-30 from Extreme. $53. for 500. reasonable $$$. Gets even better when you catch their sales

fast54vw
01-15-2017, 10:18 PM
What about using the FTX bullet?

ElvenSoul
01-15-2017, 10:23 PM
30-30 used to be available in a bolt action.

Still popular in single shot pistol & rifles.

Dnele928
01-15-2017, 10:43 PM
Yes, LeveRevolution by Hornady. As ammo or bullets for reloading. Can buy the LR powder too.

mark501w
01-16-2017, 7:28 AM
Don't forget to crimp

ElvenSoul
01-16-2017, 2:38 PM
Google 7 Waters

ElvenSoul
01-16-2017, 2:47 PM
Ok what Ye olden time 7 Waters guys did either belt sand or take shears. Cut the lead soft tip off and then flatten the bullet nose. Just do enough so it can't set the primer off of case loaded in front.

WMG
01-16-2017, 8:55 PM
The Contenders from T/C were big around here for a time and pointy bullets were the norm in them.
Then one day they all disappeared?
Not seen a single shot handgun for some time

ElvenSoul
01-16-2017, 9:51 PM
Just fyi you can get 357 Marlin Carbine and convert it to 10mm

Beats 30-30 in everything but range...and then we are only talking 75 yards.

donnrcp
01-16-2017, 11:39 PM
What about using the FTX bullet?


OP what do you see for the 30-30 on ammo shelves? Round nose, flat point, hollow point flat nose, solid copper TSX flat nose hollow point or Hornady FTX flex tips. All these are gtg for your 30-30. The hollow points in my pic are Sierra 125 grain and a few of the 150 grain TSXs.
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donnrcp
01-17-2017, 10:50 PM
I've been using 150gr FP designed for a 30-30 from Extreme. $53. for 500. reasonable $$$. Gets even better when you catch their sales



Great price. What type of results are you getting? I went out today to check POI on three different bullets. 125 JHP, 160 FTX and 150 JFN. The JHP are what I sighted in scope in with. The FTX shot to the left and the JFN went to the right at 100 yards.
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The bottom target was with the 125 JHP aimed 4 inches low which should be a 200 yard zero according to my ballistics program.
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