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Stormin_67
01-05-2017, 12:45 PM
Anyone know who may have H4350 in stock, would be nice to find 8lbs?? Thanks


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sargenv
01-05-2017, 1:25 PM
Where are you located and looking for it?

Stormin_67
01-05-2017, 2:15 PM
Ohio and anywhere?


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stevec223
01-05-2017, 10:04 PM
Check on ammoseek and gunbot.. Usually one or the other,, as they list different retailers... Cheers..

opos
01-06-2017, 5:16 AM
Recobs had it awhile back

sargenv
01-06-2017, 7:54 AM
Oh, being "Calguns" I assumed wrongly you were in California.. if you were within driving distance of the bay area.. I have a source..

Stormin_67
01-07-2017, 10:39 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, I checked them out and no luck.


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JackEllis
01-07-2017, 1:07 PM
I'd be interested in your source if you're willing to share it. The stuff seems to be as scarce as hen's teeth.

Stormin_67
01-08-2017, 10:24 AM
I have done some research and think I found a solid alternative. IMR 4451, haven't seen a bad review, carries the same velocity and is very accurate. Supposed to be stable to temp. If there is anyone who doesn't like this powder, please let me know, I am going to buy 8 lbs. For 6.5 CM


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SIKwitIT
01-10-2017, 1:39 PM
If anyone is in driving distance of phillips wholesale in west covina he typically has h4350 instock. He updates his website weekly with instock powders. Couple weeks back i picked up 3lbs of h4350 off him.

bigdawg86
01-10-2017, 2:17 PM
Check here, check often.

http://gunbot.net/reloading/Powder/

sargenv
01-12-2017, 6:36 AM
I've found that the link while useful, isn't always accurate. I've found that it goes out of date and the vendors go out of stock faster than the bot gets updated..

liber
01-12-2017, 10:12 AM
Oh, being "Calguns" I assumed wrongly you were in California.. if you were within driving distance of the bay area.. I have a source..

I'm in the Bay area, would either trade 4 lbs. of Varget for H4350 or buy H4350.

My 1lbers of Varget are sealed. My cash is green. :D

longrange1
01-12-2017, 10:16 AM
I have done some research and think I found a solid alternative. IMR 4451, haven't seen a bad review, carries the same velocity and is very accurate. Supposed to be stable to temp. If there is anyone who doesn't like this powder, please let me know, I am going to buy 8 lbs. For 6.5 CM


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ive played with 4451 in my 6mm creed...its accurate and its actually faster(velocity wise)than 4350 but keep in mind its a double base powder which means it is still temp sensitive...i havent had time to actually test the temp sensitivity of the 4451 personally but heres a couple of articles on it.

i shoot year round and in temps from 15-20deg up to 95-100deg or so...ive shot and recorded my velocities in the cold and will check again in the summer. i think H4831sc is a better alternative myself but again i have not played with the 4451 enough yet.

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2016/07/powder-comparison-test-h4350-vs-imr-4451/

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2016/06/19/powder-temp-stability-hodgdon-extreme-vs-imr-enduron/

Stormin_67
01-14-2017, 9:42 AM
Too Late https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170114/9f25d7f7133925c2edb0dd8ad56027df.jpg
Done Deal

Thanks for the good information, I had read the first link prior to my purchase, I wish I had read the second link. Not that it performed poorly, just didn't perform as well as H4350. I would have been a little more patient, especially because I am holding off reloading until Lapua releases its 6.5 CM brass.


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bigdawg86
01-14-2017, 12:36 PM
I started out with IMR 4451 In my 6.5 Creedmoor semiautomatic... I am not a competitive shooter by any means, but have had several sub half MOA groups at 100 yards. This one is a 5 shot group, with one flyer using 40.5g IMR 4551 under 140g Barnes Match Burner pushing about 2750FPS. I have shot in hotter temps and probably got an average around 3/4 MOA when my ammo and gun was cooking in the sun.

dwalker
01-14-2017, 3:09 PM
I stopped using 4350 in the 300WSM and switched to RL17. MUCH better, and its usually in stock most places.

Stormin_67
01-14-2017, 7:06 PM
I started out with IMR 4451 In my 6.5 Creedmoor semiautomatic... I am not a competitive shooter by any means, but have had several sub half MOA groups at 100 yards. This one is a 5 shot group, with one flyer using 40.5g IMR 4551 under 140g Barnes Match Burner pushing about 2750FPS. I have shot in hotter temps and probably got an average around 3/4 MOA when my ammo and gun was cooking in the sun.



Nice shooting, hope I can achieve similar results with my 6.5 CM and IMR 4451.


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LynnJr
01-14-2017, 9:36 PM
I stopped using 4350 in the 300WSM and switched to RL17. MUCH better, and its usually in stock most places.

What was much better your groups or your velocity or both?
What grain bullets are you using?

dwalker
01-14-2017, 11:37 PM
What was much better your groups or your velocity or both?
What grain bullets are you using?

I have been using 208gr BHTP Match Hornady over RE18 for the most part the last couple of years. I was loading 168 Speer Target match and 190 SMK's over 4350 but one of my friends suggested RE17 and its been IMHO far better. I get more velocity with less powder and low deviation, and it groups well. When the shelves emptied of powder there was no 4350 anyway, but there was almost always RE17 to be had.

Loaded up a test batch of 168's today and will shoot them tomorrow to see where they go to. At some point going to try the RE17 in the 6.5CM AR using the 140SMK or 140ELD because I think it will be a great powder for it.

Stormin_67
01-15-2017, 3:32 AM
If you have at least a 1-8 twist barrel, might want to check out the new Hornady 6.5 mm (.264) 147 gr ELD Match bullet w/ a .696 G1 bc.


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longrange1
01-15-2017, 5:40 AM
Too Late https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170114/9f25d7f7133925c2edb0dd8ad56027df.jpg
Done Deal

Thanks for the good information, I had read the first link prior to my purchase, I wish I had read the second link. Not that it performed poorly, just didn't perform as well as H4350. I would have been a little more patient, especially because I am holding off reloading until Lapua releases its 6.5 CM brass.


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keep in mind that in the second link they tested from 25deg to 140deg...thats a huge temp swing. the 4451 will preform well for you but you may need to make small adjustments to elevation depending on the temps when your doing your load development and the temps in the area where you live and shoot.

if you plan on or are shooting matches with MOA size targets at longer distances like PRS or tactical type matches you might want to keep looking for the elusive H4350 or try some H4831sc...i shot 4831 in several 260rem barrels and recently in my 6CM...just a slower version of 4350.

Stormin_67
01-15-2017, 6:25 AM
Thanks for your input and solid advice!!!!!


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