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Liberty1
10-24-2008, 08:45 PM
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.homicide.rate.2.847736.html

Oct 24, 2008 10:34 am US/Central

Chicago Beats New York, Los Angeles In Murders

Police Supt. Jody Weis To Take Hot City Council Hot Seat

CHICAGO (CBS) ― Chicago is the Second City in nickname and the third in population, but when it comes to murder, the city has the dubious distinction of being second to no city in America.

As CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli reports, the Chicago Sun-Times pointed out on Friday that Chicago has seen 426 homicides this year through Tuesday, compared with 417 in New York and 302 in Los Angeles.

At the end of 1998, Chicago made international headlines as the U.S. "murder capital" after surpassing New York's homicide totals for the first time ever. Chicago shed that dubious distinction when murders plummeted over the last decade.

There are more than 8 million people in New York, compared to slightly under 3 million in Chicago. The population of Los Angeles exceeds that of Chicago by more than 800,000.

Murder is also up, at a lower rate, in New York.

The alarming statistics were expected to come up on Friday when Police Supt. Jody Weis once again appeared before the City Council to address a crime rate that many believe has spun out of control. He appeared at a City Council budget hearing, which began at 10 a.m.

Weis, a career FBI agent, took office this year with a mandate to clean up the department in the wake of several scandals. But murders have risen, and arrests have fallen, on his watch.

Back in July, Weis addressed the media after being grilled by the Council on the subject.

"I don't mind tough questions," Weis said in July, not long after a shooting erupted on the streets of the Loop as crowds were leaving the annual Grant Park fireworks show. "The City of Chicago has the right to ask tough questions, especially when our crime is up nearly 13 percent."

Under tough questioning at a Council hearing that month, Weis suggested there was a "degree of timidness" among officers afraid of having lawsuits and citizen complaints filed against them.

At the hearing Friday, Weis may highlight what police view as a different problem: Officers have spent nearly 5,000 hours filling out inventory forms in the first nine months of 2008. "We'd rather they be on the street," said Beatrice Cuello, deputy superintendent of patrol.

Last year, the Cook County sheriff, who runs the jail, stopped inventorying arrestees' property. Under an agreement with the Police Department, cops took over the task.

"It's not our responsibility," said Steve Patterson, a spokesman for Sheriff Tom Dart. "We had an entire room filled with property.

Chicago is on pace to exceed 500 murders by the end of the year, but that number is far short of even approaching a record. In every year between 1991 and 1994, there were more than 900 homicides in the city, peaking in 1992 with 943 murders. The standing record for homicides in Chicago dates back to 1974, when there were 970 murders.

shark92651
10-24-2008, 09:16 PM
Chicago politics - coming soon to a town near you :eek:

tankerman
10-24-2008, 09:25 PM
Mayor Daly will blame it on the Assualt Weapons ban expiring.

yellowfin
10-24-2008, 09:46 PM
No matter what, they will not change their approach. Doesn't matter if 10% of the population dies, if they still hold onto their power it's all gravy to them. It's beyond sickening.

kermit315
10-24-2008, 10:06 PM
whats bad is that what happens in Chicago drives the rest of the state, and screws me and my family over. Know what the murder rate is in the rest of Illinois combined? Not nearly what it is in Chicago alone.

taloft
10-24-2008, 10:35 PM
It is interesting to note that the three major cities listed in the article all have very stringent controls on handguns and concealed carry. They also trade off as being the murder capitol of the country. Don't forget D.C. as well. Just goes to show that gun control laws are completely useless for preventing gun crimes.

tyrist
10-24-2008, 10:39 PM
It is interesting to note that the three major cities listed in the article all have very stringent controls on handguns and concealed carry. They also trade off as being the murder capitol of the country. Don't forget D.C. as well. Just goes to show that gun control laws are completely useless for preventing gun crimes.

I think the murder rate is what causes the gun control as the solution. This of course does not work and so nothing changes. You can be pretty certain most of those murders involve drugs in one way or another.

Hoop
10-24-2008, 10:55 PM
I think the murder rate is what causes the gun control as the solution. This of course does not work and so nothing changes. You can be pretty certain most of those murders involve drugs in one way or another.

Corrupt or ineffectual police don't help either.

tombinghamthegreat
10-25-2008, 02:42 PM
But...but....Obama help uphold the gun laws because they work at reducing crime:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: It is no suprise that it is now murder capital with high unemployment, crappy schools, gun bans, high level of criminal activity and corrupt government employees.

Greg-Dawg®
10-25-2008, 02:50 PM
The only good thing about Chicago is the pizza.

dfletcher
10-25-2008, 09:11 PM
The only good thing about Chicago is the pizza.

Blasphemy!! That deep dish spongy marinara soufle' drek in a bucket can't hold a candle to real NY thin crust pizza. :drool5:

Pistolas at 50 feet, sir!

kermit315
10-25-2008, 09:15 PM
There are lots of great things in Chicago, just none of them include the people, politics or infastructure.

bplvr
10-25-2008, 10:06 PM
A couple of months ago I sat here hacking the major cities for murder rates per 100,000 {pre-thesis work} and the lowest I found was Salt Lake City.@4.4/100,000. In Salt Lake you can get a CCW for a Mini-Uzi Gun Machine.
Maybe Chicago can adopt these same rules. Now that is "Change We Can Believe In "!