Boston Legal

[Mulay El Raisuli]

I just LOVE that show. Yes, the producer (David E. Kelly) is waaaayyyyy to the Left of even Ted Kennedy, but I still just LOVE the show.

Recently, they aired an episode where Denny Crane shot a mugger. With a handgun he carried concealed. The Boston DA didn't have a problem with the shooting itself, but with the fact that a concealed handgun was used. So, Our Hero was tried on that charge.

The argument was made during trial that HELLER allowed the carrying of a handgun openly. This was said repeatedly, in fact. What happened next is best seen, as opposed to described, so I'll stop here so as not to spoil it for those who haven't seen the episode yet. You could go to ABC.com if you don't have a friend that taped it.

Now, I want to emphasize that I do not rely on TV shows for my legal advice. But, they do clue me in on what the Liberal Mind is thinking. David E. Kelly's knees jerk so hard I'm surprised he can walk, so he's a particularly good source of Liberal-think. But, Kelly is also a lawyer & while he's clearly unhappy with HELLER, the lawyer in him forces him to accept that HELLER is now the law of the land.

What I find so very interesting is that the knee-jerkiest guy in Hollyweird accepts the concept that Open Carry is now a Constitutional (Protected) Right. ALL of the statements made in the episode went to how the crime committed wasn't the carrying of a gun, but the carrying of it concealed. Given that all statements made come from the typewriter of the knee-jerkiest guy in Hollyweird, I take this as a sign that LOC is (reluctantly) accepted by The Left as Constitutionally protected. Since my big 'thing' is LOC, I'm quite happy.

The Raisuli

[hill billy]

It's just one guys opinion.

Also I don't see where open carry is Constitutionally protected. Maybe I'm wrong.

[bulgron]

Also I don't see where open carry is Constitutionally protected. Maybe I'm wrong.

"... and bear arms ..."

You're wrong.

[tgriffin]

Hmmm seems pretty clear to me. "The right to bear arms shall not be infringed"

[Liberty1]

It's just one guys opinion.

Also I don't see where open carry is Constitutionally protected. Maybe I'm wrong.

OC and CC should BOTH be protected. I don't see how someone who OCs suddenly becomes a criminal because one chooses to carry the same item out of sight or an article of clothing partially covers it.

The CC prohibiting statues make it all too easy to falsely arrest an OCer absent video evidence to the contrary. Maybe OCing shirtless or with a drop leg holster or OCing long guns would counter this possibility. Three cheers for going shirtless with a drop leg holster and a long gun:D

[N6ATF]

Just be sure you have a six pack and not a beer gut, mall ninja-san.

[Mulay El Raisuli]

It's just one guys opinion.

He's opposed to what we believe. The is much value in listening to what those opposed to us say. When the opposition agrees with you, you can be sure that good times are a-comin'!

Also, David E. Kelly has, by virtue of his position, a BIG voice. That voice told millions of people that LOC is now the law of the land. There are some little details to be settled, it's true, so he's actually ahead of things, but LOC is soon to be here. Even in places like MASS.

The Raisuli

[yellowfin]

I wonder what large numbers of OC'ers would look like every day. Ya know, like seeing 1911's in the checkout lines.

[383green]

I've never watched that show, but based on your description I just went and bought that episode off the iTunes store. I figure that if nothing else, it's worth a couple of bucks to see what Captain Kirk is up to these days. :)

[AaronHorrocks]

If he was open carrying, then that criminal scum probably would have robbed someone else and got away with it.

[nicki]

Work evenings, so I rarely catch the show.

Bear in mind, these are TV shows, they are done for entertainment value.

Still, planting the seed that open carry is a constitutional right opens the door for CCW in this state.

Imagine the Public Relations nightmare a sheriff would have if large numbers of people were carrying openly and were doing so because he was refusing to issue CCW permits.

A big issue for open carry though are "school zones" or other "Gun Free Zones".

If those zones got expanded to say 5 miles, Open carry would be effectively null and void.

The so called "sensitive zones" need to be dealt with. Right now the laws are extremely vague and prone to abuse.

Nicki

[DedEye]

I wonder what large numbers of OC'ers would look like every day. Ya know, like seeing 1911's in the checkout lines.

A bit like Israel probably, except handguns instead of M16s.

[Mulay El Raisuli]

Work evenings, so I rarely catch the show.

Bear in mind, these are TV shows, they are done for entertainment value.

Still, planting the seed that open carry is a constitutional right opens the door for CCW in this state.

Imagine the Public Relations nightmare a sheriff would have if large numbers of people were carrying openly and were doing so because he was refusing to issue CCW permits.

A big issue for open carry though are "school zones" or other "Gun Free Zones".

If those zones got expanded to say 5 miles, Open carry would be effectively null and void.

The so called "sensitive zones" need to be dealt with. Right now the laws are extremely vague and prone to abuse.

Nicki

And "planting the seed" is just what David E. Kelly has done. For us, oddly enough.

As for the "sensitive" zones, they can't realistically be expanded to 5 miles. That's beyond the range of even Big Evil .50Cal. But, even the current 1,000ft. is a problem. Still, since this was passed pre-HELLER, I don't see them lasting long after NORDYKE.

While I hope that universal LOC will lead to "shall-issue," I favor LOC in & of itself. I'm also with yellowfin2 in wondering what things will look like. I am also looking forward to it.

Aaron Horrocks is right in saying that the scum would go rob someone else if he saw his intended victim was armed. However, once LOC becomes universal again, he's going to be thinking about the fact that it isn't just the cops he has to worry about, but the Joe Average who might be around the corner as well. A fear he doesn't have now, since we all know that very few will want to get involved. The greatest value in LOC is this lack of will to get involved will (I hope & believe) fade away.

The Raisuli

[Mulay El Raisuli]

I've never watched that show, but based on your description I just went and bought that episode off the iTunes store. I figure that if nothing else, it's worth a couple of bucks to see what Captain Kirk is up to these days. :)

You paid? Doesn't ABC.com have it for free?

Anyway, did you like the episode?

Shatner doesn't look much like Capt. Kirk anymore, but the guy is in his mid-70s & is still quite vigorous. Just another reason to keep working, I guess.

The Raisuli

[383green]

Yeah, I paid $2. It was convenient, and I got it without any commercials. I hate commercials. Unless they're for things like guns, military trucks, military radios, Victoria's Secret models carrying guns on military trucks, and so forth... when they start having ads like those on network TV, I'll go buy a TV and put up an antenna! ;)

I thought the episode was very funny. Shatner is a walking, talking, shooting self-parody. I don't plan to watch any more episodes, but that one was entertaining, even if thoroughly unrealistic. It was a bit disturbing as whats-his-name, the weird guy, was spouting all of the typical anti-2A BS in his little closing argument, but it all made sense once it came out that Shatner's character was trying to lose the case just to get it into a higher court. The closing argument out-anti'd the antis! It was too bad that his jury decided to play the jury nullification card.

[bountyhunter]

Denny Crane is like a god to me......:D

70+ years old and still packing heat and nailing every hot babe in range.

We should ll go like that.....

[vf111]

YShatner doesn't look much like Capt. Kirk anymore, but the guy is in his mid-70s & is still quite vigorous. Just another reason to keep working, I guess.


Too bad he's not in the new Star Trek movie being poduced by JJ Abrams (of Lost & Alias fame). I understand Shatner still has a big ego and wanted things done a certain way. At least Leonard Nimoy will be in it....

[Mulay El Raisuli]

Yeah, I paid $2. It was convenient, and I got it without any commercials. I hate commercials. Unless they're for things like guns, military trucks, military radios, Victoria's Secret models carrying guns on military trucks, and so forth... when they start having ads like those on network TV, I'll go buy a TV and put up an antenna! ;)

I thought the episode was very funny. Shatner is a walking, talking, shooting self-parody. I don't plan to watch any more episodes, but that one was entertaining, even if thoroughly unrealistic. It was a bit disturbing as whats-his-name, the weird guy, was spouting all of the typical anti-2A BS in his little closing argument, but it all made sense once it came out that Shatner's character was trying to lose the case just to get it into a higher court. The closing argument out-anti'd the antis! It was too bad that his jury decided to play the jury nullification card.

The problem with any David E. Kelly show is that he always pushes whatever his agenda is at the moment. So, unrealistic is almost a part of his shows. This has gotten worse since he knows the show is in its last year & he doesn't have to worry about pleasing the network suits for very much longer.

Still, he's done us a great service. There's lots of people who aren't aware of the unreality & think he spouts The Truth. Him presenting LOC as a Constitutional Right can only be good for us.

I still watch TV even though they don't have the good commercials that you mentioned. I just zip thru the ones they do have & go to YouTube for the models with machineguns!

The Raisuli

[globetrekker]

Found the scene on YouTube, its still hilarious even after
watching it several times.

Captain Kirk says all Phasers on FULL....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yJ7cfr9Lso

[MP301]

Boston Legal is in my Top 5 favorites in spite of the left leaning....Shatner's best role!

Denny Crane!

[JDay]

It's just one guys opinion.

Also I don't see where open carry is Constitutionally protected. Maybe I'm wrong.

http://www.lucente.org/blog/media/1/20080626-right-to-bear-arms.gif

Or do you think "Bear Arms" means this?

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/9/9b/Right_To_Bear_Arms.jpg

[Pthfndr]

That was a GREAT clip. Hadn't seen that before.

[EMT007]

haha that is a great clip - I just got into Boston Legal, so I've been watching all the seasons, and this clip definitely rivals the mugger scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Oo-BjKzCE&feature=related