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xibunkrlilkidsx
10-12-2008, 01:15 PM
Is there a significant difference between these two dies. im starting to reloading and this is the last thing i need to get started. ANd i have heard it both ways to crimp the round and do not crimp the round. is this one of the many things im just going to have to figure out if it works for me or not. And can these be used with the automatic powder dispensor that comes with the reloading this kit (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=622290)
Reloading for a Rem 700 SPS varmit .308 win

.308 Win Deluxe Lee dies
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=148525&t=11082005

.308 win Pacesetter Lee dies
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=538030&t=11082005

22popnsplat
10-12-2008, 02:15 PM
I myself have never had much luck with lee dies , I have used there neck only die in 22 hornet with success and knew some guys they really liked the factory crimp die but it never did me any good . Every other die I ever had from lee I stop using . I prefer the redding dies I think there quality is as good or better than rcbs and are less exspensive , Then I think next in line would be lyman and hornady witch i will buy If i cant get the others but lee to me is at the bottom of the list . Like anything else to certain extent you get what you pay for .

Beelzy
10-12-2008, 06:55 PM
I use Lee for pistol, and use RCBS for the rifle cartridges.

RCBS rules. :cool:

xibunkrlilkidsx
10-14-2008, 06:53 AM
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=640612
decapping=primer remover?

NotSoFast
10-14-2008, 07:01 AM
If you're going to choose between the two, go with the Pacesetter dies. I use them in .223 and have had good luck with them.

bohoki
10-14-2008, 09:05 AM
i bought the rgb dies in 308 and it resized the whole shebang

i guess i could use the crimp die but the bullets stick in the cases long enough to get into my m1a

as to the differences i thin one set comes in the red tube type storage device the other comes in a clear orange 3 die side by side flat box

hylander
10-15-2008, 03:38 PM
Lee Deluxe for Pistol, Redding for Rifle

rayra
10-15-2008, 04:43 PM
No significant difference.
If you'll be scrounging brass, reloading a wide variety of manfs of your own brass, or reloading for more than one rifle, a full-length resizing is best practice. And both sets do this.

Crimping relies more on issues of very heavy recoil and neck-tension issues if you are the sort to pursue benchrest shooting and will in the future be screwing around with neck sizing, case triming and cutting your cartridge necks inside and out.
Mild Crimping as a matter of course, with bullets having a cannalure is completely appropriate, IMAO. Particularly in teh case of bolt-action rifles for recoil issues.

Jicko
10-15-2008, 05:02 PM
For bolt action, you don't need to crimp, generally, no one crimp their rounds.

Die wise.... if you want "accurate" and "consistant" rounds (after you have put in so much time and effort to make your rounds, it would be a shame that your rounds are not accurate).... you should invest in your dies, one of your BEST investments....

Get some QUALITY die.... for seating die, the BEST, is the Redding Competition Seating die... hands down... THE BEST....

A lot of people do only neck sizing only once your case is fire-form to your rifle (and if you keep track of what brass from which rifle).... and you should be able to not have to trim your brass for quite a few reloads...

I will let others comment on what are the BEST Full-Length sizing die (probably small base) and Neck Sizeing die...... (the ones that come to mind is Redding and RCBS competition dies)...