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dbui888
10-05-2016, 1:05 AM
So here's my story. I put a deposit for a CZ-75b SA at LGS back in February. It's been 8 months now and they still have not received any of that model. I know since the time I put in the deposit they have gotten a few shipments of SP-01s and even suggest I get that instead. I called CZ USA, the rep told me its a waiting game and there's no ETA.

What do you guys think? Should I continue waiting? Or just go for the SP-01?


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ZombieLivesMatter
10-05-2016, 1:10 AM
Found this thread asking about the two, hope it helps:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=135319

Blackhawk556
10-05-2016, 1:33 AM
I love my SP-01. I say get it. It is the most accurate gun I own. I hope I never have to sell it.

Sent from CA DoJ

Zartan
10-05-2016, 3:05 AM
75B SA all over online, but I'd do it CG style...BOTH

dyson
10-05-2016, 5:09 AM
Sp01

tbc
10-05-2016, 5:27 AM
SP-01 should be the first CZ.

onelonehorseman
10-05-2016, 5:43 AM
Both . . . wrapped in bacon!

Title1guy
10-05-2016, 5:50 AM
Buy a PCR until the P-01 is finally in.

Euphoria526
10-05-2016, 6:00 AM
I'd say both.
Being a p01 as my first I'd say get the sp 01 first

bsg
10-05-2016, 6:00 AM
if you intend on owning both, then go ahead and get the one that's available now and try to work out a layaway plan for the other.

bubbala
10-05-2016, 8:29 AM
I don't have an sp-01;but no one owns one Cz.:25:

btm
10-05-2016, 8:35 AM
SP-01 basically an SA with a full dust cover and rail. Same frame, same guts. Had both, prefer the lighter SA.

osis32
10-05-2016, 8:51 AM
That's a tough call. Do you want a rail? Would that have any bearing on your purchase? I really like both but the sp01 has more utility. My Sao trigger is disappointing I gotta do some work on it. It really is a toss up to me. The sp01 has the better sights though but I like the Sao safety better. If I absolutely had to choose get the sp01 now and Sao next.

k1dude
10-05-2016, 8:51 AM
Buy the SA online. Done.

jimmykan
10-05-2016, 10:01 AM
SP-01 basically an SA with a full dust cover and rail. Same frame, same guts. Had both, prefer the lighter SA.


I have a CZ 75 B SA, and I have handled many CZ SP-01s and CZ 75 Tactical Sports.

The CZ SP-01:

double-action/single-action
curved trigger like the standard CZ 75 B
beavertail is longer than the standard CZ 75 B and curves upward
full length dust cover with picatinny rail
slide nose is full-width, uncontoured, unlike the standard CZ 75 B, which has a Browning Hi-Power style cut
small style safety lever, the same as the standard CZ 75 B



The CZ 75 B SA:

single-action-only
straight trigger like the CZ 75 Tactical Sport
beavertail is also longer than the standard CZ 75 B and curves upward
short dust cover like the standard CZ 75 B
slide nose is is also full-width, uncontoured, unlike the standard CZ 75 B, which has a Browning Hi-Power style cut
large style safety lever, the same as the CZ 75 Tactical Sport and CZ 75 Shadow


From the factory, both guns would really benefit from some trigger upgrades.

Top priority is to reduce the travel needed to reset the trigger, since the factory trigger requires you to let it all the way out, pretty much, in order to reset. The Cajun Gun Works Short Reset System (SRS) does the job nicely. You can also remove the firing pin block to accomplish this.

Second priority is to reduce trigger creep and pull weight. Competition hammer/sear/springs accomplish this with mininal guesswork. I like the look of the 1911 commander style ring hammer, so I opted to stone the engagement surfaces of the factory hammer and sear, followed by case hardening using Cherry Red powder and a propane torch. It turned out well, but I bought a spare hammer and sear just in case it didn't. :o

Wordupmybrotha
10-05-2016, 10:19 AM
I like the SP-01 better.

Old4eyes
10-05-2016, 3:45 PM
What is the purpose of the gun? If it's self defense the rail may be the deciding factor. If it's a range gun I prefer the SA. I shoot it slightly better than my SP-01 but for self defense I'd like to mount a light and have the night sights of the SP-01.

The stock sights of the SA (and almost all models) of the CZ line are difficult to see. I have switched to fiber sights on the SA and that also aids in my shooting of that pistol.

trigger945
10-05-2016, 4:59 PM
Kind of a toss up...

55% SP01
45% 75 SA

At least that is how I see it... :)

BEE
10-05-2016, 5:10 PM
You can always go SAO with the SP-01.

trackcage
10-05-2016, 5:24 PM
The 75b single action only is NOT available "all over" online. I know because I've been waiting too

I guess you know my vote then..:chris:

Litespeeds
10-05-2016, 5:24 PM
You can always go SAO with the SP-01.

^^^^^^This is what I would do.

I have a CZ SP-01 that has some nice upgrades and Single Action Only straight trigger. It is one of the guns that always goes with me to the range. Also added a Springer Precision mount and have a Burris Fastfire 3 red dot on it.

Litespeeds
10-05-2016, 5:27 PM
For those looking for a CZ 75 SA, I am pretty sure I saw one recently at Elite Armory in Castro Valley as well as Triple A Sports in Vallejo.

ducky_0811
10-05-2016, 8:22 PM
Get the best of both worlds, SP01 and do a SAO conversion. Comp hammer with adjustable sear, remove firing pin block and replace lifter arm with spacer. Best thing I ever could have done to my 97b. No fitting or extra work, just replace the parts and the trigger pull will worthy of having a smoke afterwards.

Blade Gunner
10-05-2016, 8:51 PM
Get the SP-01, send it to Cajon gun works, you'll never regret it.

Fatcat
10-05-2016, 9:28 PM
SP-01 basically an SA with a full dust cover and rail. Same frame, same guts. Had both, prefer the lighter SA.

Agreed. If you just want a range gun, SP-01 is great. Heavier weight up front dampens recoil. If you're going to compete, the SP-01 feels like a pig compared to a stock 75b or 75 SA. The SA has the same beaver tail as the SP-01 while the 75b does not if that matters to you.

CAGLS
10-05-2016, 10:52 PM
You can also convert the 75 SA TO DA/SA.

Domingo
10-06-2016, 7:31 AM
SA 9mm or .40?

Capt Jack
10-06-2016, 4:39 PM
You will eventually get them both so buy whichever you can find now :)
I've got both and they are great guns!

Intel0116
10-06-2016, 4:48 PM
I just jailed a cz 75 sa, NIB. What area / lgs are you in / using

dbui888
10-08-2016, 8:19 PM
I just jailed a cz 75 sa, NIB. What area / lgs are you in / using



I'm in the greater Los Angeles Area, my deposit is at Oak Tree. Where you get yours from ?


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NPFreedom
10-08-2016, 8:50 PM
This is my personal choice. I sold my SP01. Then bought the SA. I feel the SP to be front heavy.

tanks
10-09-2016, 4:42 AM
...If you're going to compete, the SP-01 feels like a pig compared to a stock 75b or 75 SA. ...

I asked the same question in regards to suitability of SP-01 and 75B in regards to competition. This is what I was told on why SP-01 is better. . Accuracy is the same, SP01 is heavier at the nose which helps mitigate muzzle flip, the SP01 has checkering on the frame front and back, ambidextrous safeties/mag release, longer beaver tail, also there is no extended mag release available for the 75B.

Now, the SA is not eligible for Production division in USPSA so is pushed to limited division competing against Tactical Sport (which is a better CZ for this purpose) and of course against the 2011s.

Parker2812
10-09-2016, 9:32 PM
I think it mostly comes down to whether you want the rail or not, aka do you prefer that look or are you planning to mount a light on it.

Personally I prefer the classic CZ look, with the bonus of the SA being its a lil lighter and has a better safety.

I vote for the SA

bubbala
10-09-2016, 9:59 PM
I could swear I saw Sa's at oak tree recently. no,,, it's a 40.

iMigraine
10-09-2016, 11:57 PM
Shot a rental CZ SP01 at a Brea gun range and didn't care for it. So I saved up and bought a CZ 75 Tactical Sport. Scared that I might not like it after buying it with no first had experience. Luckily it didn't disappoint. Easily became smitten with it and hope to never part with it.

Litespeeds
10-10-2016, 4:53 PM
Not sure where OP is at but there is a nice one selling in San Jose, CA area. No affiliation with the seller but thought I'd post this if someone is interested.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1252563

simba
10-10-2016, 7:08 PM
Out of the two, I'd pick the SP01. The stock trigger on the sp01 is fine versus the sao needing a trigger work overhaul.

jimmykan
10-12-2016, 3:56 PM
DUDE DUDE DUDE!

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1244756

onelonehorseman
10-13-2016, 6:12 AM
Not sure where OP is at but there is a nice one selling in San Jose, CA area. No affiliation with the seller but thought I'd post this if someone is interested.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1252563

OP says "I'm in the greater Los Angeles Area, my deposit is at Oak Tree."

So San Jose would be a bit far.