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Sacjesusfreak
10-02-2008, 9:31 PM
Hey Everyone, I just picked up this 303 British rifle, on it , it says..98153.. MA LITHGOW S.M.L.E III * 1944,,,,, Can anyone tell me more about this rifle, Is this a Enfield? What is it worth...Thanks...

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SJgunguy24
10-02-2008, 9:35 PM
www.surplusrifle.com

Try this place. Tons of info.

Saigon1965
10-02-2008, 9:36 PM
This is a question for SMLE man. But yes it's an Enfield.

NeoWeird
10-02-2008, 9:37 PM
It's an Enfield SMLE (short magazine Lee Enfield) model III* made in 1944 at their Lithgow plant. If I remember right the * means it's a transitional rifle (not important in the Enfield line). What happened was the Enfield was quite often being updated for ease of manufacture, more common materials, etc. As new rifle variants were produced, production moved over to the new model and old stock was quickly brought up to the same standard and were given a * designation to indicate that they had been modified to meet the new criteria. You're talking hundreds of thousands of rifles falling into these categories so it's not a collectors item like some might think when they hear that.

Anyways, price is hard to call. It could be anywhere from $100 to several thousand depending on it's condition, specific details about it, etc. Chances are though it will fall in the $150-300 range.

If pictures can't be taken, look to see what marks and stampings are on it. Is it import marked? Are the serial numbers mathcing on all serialized parts? Overall condition? What does the bore look like? etc.

Sacjesusfreak
10-02-2008, 9:41 PM
i just posted some pics''

superhondaz50
10-02-2008, 9:42 PM
Australian

FMJBT
10-02-2008, 10:28 PM
Sporterized, badly. The metal looks pretty good though. It's definitely worth restoring as the barrel and front sight seem un-molested. If the headspace checks out OK you will have a great shooter on your hands. Not much compares with the old Enfields for easy cycling and great ergonomics. Prvi Partizan makes some decent 174gr FMJBT ammo for them that shoots well and is pretty cheap. The same ammo is also sold under the Wolf "Gold" line as well.

Sacjesusfreak
10-02-2008, 10:46 PM
after seeing the pics, what would you say its worth,,

FMJBT
10-02-2008, 11:40 PM
after seeing the pics, what would you say its worth,,

The sporterizing knocks off a lot of value unfortunately. It's probably worth about $150, maybe a little more if it has matching numbers.

bigthaiboy
10-02-2008, 11:45 PM
What you have is a Lithgow SMLE No.1 MkIII* made at the Lithgow Small Arms Plant in Lithgow, New South Wales, Australia. This is how it's meant to look :

13757

I agree with FMJBT, it's been badly sporterised. Shame really. A good original Lithgow MkIII go for $200 to $300, but sporterised rifles are worth substially less. You'd be better off restoring it back to original.

Has the magazine, bolt and trigger guard been chromed or polished, or is it just the camera flash?

Crusader
10-03-2008, 6:34 AM
Sporterized rifles: The worst invention since the Democrat.

It's a shame too, because those SMLEs are the most beautiful of the Enfield line, in my opinion.