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davefromca
08-10-2016, 3:09 PM
I've started to get an idea on availability of a glock 36. It is listed on the doj website, however, gungenie says it is restricted because glock has changed the grip. Another member on here mentuoned that glock added a rail which is also not legal to sell in CA...pretty confused here. Does anyone have insight on this?

Kings River Kid
08-10-2016, 3:18 PM
Make sure youre looking at 3rg Gen glocks not the newest 4th gen, which are indeed off roster

CSTactical
08-10-2016, 3:21 PM
IIRC, Glock discontinued the old Glock 36 minus the rail so currently the railed model is the only one produced which does not make it eligible for the roster.

iLWRC
08-10-2016, 3:22 PM
It's still on roster.

36 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 1/1/2017

HardwoodRods
08-10-2016, 3:23 PM
As long as it's a Gen 3, made in Austria it is good to go

nothingextra
08-10-2016, 3:31 PM
It wasn't exactly a hot seller, and it took a beating on YouTube from gun channels complaining about its relative size to capacity.

Even Hickok Bud's Gunship 45 didn't spare much time for it.

CSTactical
08-10-2016, 3:35 PM
It's still on roster.

36 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 1/1/2017


It's not the first time a gun on the roster has been discontinued.

davefromca
08-10-2016, 4:00 PM
It's still on roster.

36 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 1/1/2017

Yes but as I said above the newer models have a new grip and rail that make it a no go even if it is listed on roster.

Guns and guitars
08-10-2016, 4:05 PM
I bought one last month. I actually really like mine.
Limited cap is an issue for sure, but aside from that, its a great gun.

Mines got finger grooves, and a rail. Definitely on the roster.


Also just had it added by my SO for a another CCW...

kel-tec-innovations
08-10-2016, 4:14 PM
I had a Glock 36. Was no impressed. Its the same size as a Glock 19/23. Sold it

kermitz
08-10-2016, 6:36 PM
I bought one with a rail a few months back. It's still on the roster.

Garv
08-10-2016, 6:59 PM
There is one in the Marketplace from camus351 now.
Long Beach though.

Bullets&Whitewalls
08-10-2016, 7:17 PM
A friend of mine bought one with a rail a few months back. I'm still pissed at him because he sold it without asking me first. Lol

Dvrjon
08-10-2016, 7:27 PM
I had a Glock 36. Was no impressed. Its the same size as a Glock 19/23. Sold it
No, it's not: https://us.glock.com/products/compare?g1=g36&g2=g19gen4&g3=g23&g4=

Cokebottle
08-10-2016, 8:07 PM
Yes but as I said above the newer models have a new grip and rail that make it a no go even if it is listed on roster.
Why?
The rail is not an AW feature, nor is anything that could be done to the grip unless it results in the magazine being mounted outside of the grip.
I have two handguns with rails.

Bullets&Whitewalls
08-10-2016, 8:11 PM
Why?
The rail is not an AW feature, nor is anything that could be done to the grip unless it results in the magazine being mounted outside of the grip.
I have two handguns with rails.

Same reasoning the SR22 got dropped from the roster, any deviation from the the approved model wether cosmetic or mechanical will de list it due to not being able to comply with micro stamping to be re tested.

SkyHawk
08-10-2016, 8:15 PM
Why?
The rail is not an AW feature, nor is anything that could be done to the grip unless it results in the magazine being mounted outside of the grip.
I have two handguns with rails.

Because the rail is a change from the model that was tested and approved by CA DOJ. Not because rails are illegal. If they molded a banana onto the frame it would also not be the same gun that was tested and approved for the roster.

This is why the half rail TRP is off roster, while the full rail and no rail TRP are on roster. Springfield changed the full rail to a half rail and it is not on roster because even though it is the same gun as the full rail with just half a rail, it is not the same gun that was tested. It is also desirable and commands a stiff premium when they are offered for sale via PPT, which is not often.

And now there is no way to add new semi auto pistols to the roster, including pistols that are the 'same' but 'different', unless they have microstamping, which doesn't exist.

Cokebottle
08-10-2016, 8:17 PM
Same reasoning the SR22 got dropped from the roster, any deviation from the the approved model wether cosmetic or mechanical will de list it due to not being able to comply with micro stamping to be re tested.
Yes, a change to design will cause it to drop off the roster, but the rail itself does not make it illegal in California.

Deog
08-10-2016, 8:22 PM
The OG G30 was/is a much better shooter.

Garandimal
08-10-2016, 8:27 PM
The GLOCk G36 is shorter, thinner, and lighter than the G19/23.

http://s32.postimg.org/ffz5iyyqd/g23g36comp.jpg

So are the mags.

And, because the size and weight reduction is in the grip?

They carry IWB in a GALCO Stow-N-Go, and a spare mag in the pocket, a LOT better.

http://s33.postimg.org/tgpxd1bcf/Picture_001_1024.jpg

http://s33.postimg.org/h40im7lin/Picture_002_1024.jpg


As for capacity?

H/T: Glock 23 Nutter/GT
The odds of getting into an SD situation, drawing your firearm, discharging your firearm to stop the threat, and firing more that Six(6) rounds to do it...?

...are only ~ Forty percent (40%) greater than ending up a Highway Fatality that same year.

;)




GR

SkyHawk
08-10-2016, 8:29 PM
Yes, a change to design will cause it to drop off the roster, but the rail itself does not make it illegal in California.

That is a good point. OP used the wrong semantics when he made the thread title. Instead of 'no longer legal' he should have said 'no longer on roster'.


Anyhow it is interesting to note that the Glock 36 page on glock.com still shows the no rail model with no mention of a rail.

https://us.glock.com/products/model/g36

Bullets&Whitewalls
08-10-2016, 8:33 PM
Yes, a change to design will cause it to drop off the roster, but the rail itself does not make it illegal in California.

You are correct. And I see why you asked the question reading back at how the op started the thread.

Lead Waster
08-10-2016, 8:37 PM
The glock 30s uses the 36 slide and the 30sf frame. In fact the frame on 30s says 30sf on them.

SkyHawk
08-10-2016, 8:38 PM
The glock 30s uses the 36 slide and the 30sf frame. In fact the frame on 30s says 30sf on them.

G30s for the win IMO. Best of both worlds. Much easier to find a G36 though, G30s doesn't come up for sale all that often.

Cokebottle
08-10-2016, 9:08 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=459227&stc=1&d=1448965012

Looking on Riflegear, all they show now is with the rail, but the grip looks the same.
It is not listed under CA compliant though.

Garandimal
08-10-2016, 9:20 PM
G30s for the win IMO. Best of both worlds. Much easier to find a G36 though, G30s doesn't come up for sale all that often.

The G30s, for a CC/IWB...? Has a little bit of a fat-*** problem.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/imstuner/Glock%2036/IMG_1704copy.jpg

;)




GR

SkyHawk
08-10-2016, 9:54 PM
The G30s, for a CC/IWB...? Has a little bit of a fat-*** problem.



GR

Try again, you didn't post a pic of a G30s.

My G30s is barely bigger than my G26, and the same width. And practically speaking it is the same size as my G19 or G23.

G30s, not G30, not G30SF, not G30Gen4.

G30s - it is a special gun that Glock makes from a G30SF frame with a G36 slide. 10 rounds of 45 in a slim package. Not on the roster. CA Unicorn.
https://us.glock.com/products/model/g30s


http://www.bestconcealedcarrygun101.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/glock-30s-comparison-2013-shot-show-300x200.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/2ylus85.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/s2wo3p.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/r2l003.jpg

sc870
08-10-2016, 10:27 PM
Does this mean the g29sf slide will fit the g30s?

SkyHawk
08-10-2016, 11:04 PM
Does this mean the g29sf slide will fit the g30s?

Yes

Garandimal
08-10-2016, 11:07 PM
Try again, you didn't post a pic of a G30s...

The G30s is just a G36... w/ the G30 fat-*** attached.

Again, here are the G36 and a G30:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/imstuner/Glock%2036/IMG_1704copy.jpg


Here are a G23 (w/ tape) and a G30s (G36/39):

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/AEnemaBay/Glock/G23_G3630_comp.jpg~original


And here are a G23 and the G36 (w/ extended mag base/plug):

http://s32.postimg.org/ffz5iyyqd/g23g36comp.jpg


G30s: Thick + Four more rounds of 230 gr. ammo = Fat-*** CC/IWB.

;)




GR

SkyHawk
08-10-2016, 11:12 PM
The G30s is just a G36... w/ the G30 fat-*** attached.

Again, here are the G36 and a G30:




G30s: Thick + Four more rounds of 230 gr. ammo = Fat-*** CC/IWB.

;)

GR

I have them all, I have carried them all. G30s vs G36 is not as dramatic as you'd think in the holster even IWB. G30s is the same as G19, G23, G26, G27 - So I guess you are calling all those Fat-*** too - even though collectively they are probably the most popular CCW guns? Yeah, that's right.

Best of all, G30s doesn't use jam-o-matic mags like G36. Also has large cap mags avail, up to 26rd mags from the factory. And takes a G29 slide for 10mm action.


;)

Garandimal
08-10-2016, 11:29 PM
I have them all, I have carried them all. G30s vs G36 is not as dramatic as you'd think in the holster even IWB. G30s is the same as G19, G23, G26, G27 - I guess you are calling all those Fat*** too - even though they are probably the most carried guns?

Best of all, G30s doesn't use jamomatic mags like G36. Also has large cap mags avail, up to 26rd mags from the factory.

I carried a G23 CC/IWB for Decades before I got the G36.

And, Yes, it carries considerably better.

The G30s is even fatter in the *** than the G23.


That a lot of people carry them? Doesn't make Oprah an underwear model (except maybe at Lane Bryant).

People are also flocking to the G43. Slim, light weight, 6-round CCW.

When they find out that a really small pistol is a little slow from concealed, and that 9mm is a little weak from a 3" Bbl., they might start looking elsewhere... like the G36 and 45 Shield.


G36 Mags...? have Nine, OEM - all function perfectly.

26 rd. mags...?

Are you a terrorist?

I'll take a Mini-14 instead.

H/T: Glock 23 Nutter/GT
The odds of getting into an SD situation, drawing your firearm, discharging your firearm to stop the threat, and firing more that Six(6) rounds to do it...?

...are only ~ Forty percent (40%) greater than ending up a Highway Fatality that same year.


It's perfectly alright that you are comfortable w/ your choices, and that you feel good about them.

I run w/ my G36 in an IWB.

:D




GR