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X-NewYawker
09-26-2008, 12:34 PM
Went to Angeles this morning with Desert Tactical Arms SRS .308 bullpup to sight in and shoot groups.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/L1000916.jpg

Ballistic card from company got me in the black pretty quickly, within six shots. I sighted in with 168 grain Federal match and then switched to 175 grain Federal BTHP --(almost exact same POA -- didn't adjust) . The flash suppressor on the gun wasn't heat treated, so they suggested I take it off for groups shooting --

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/L1000915.jpg

They wanted me to shoot groups off their Harris Bipod with podlock (I'd usually shoot off bags). I wanted to shoot the full six rounds in the single stack removable magazine. I'd get four rounds touching and then exhale wrong and throw one a quarter an inch left. I calmed down, decreased the length of the bipod legs so they were a little steadier, and shot some groups for pictures.

I'm on this intestinal cleanse where I don't eat till lunch, and I swear I could feel the blood running through my head. These are the two best six shot groups I shot at 100 yards:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/DTA-group-9-26.jpg

One under 1/2 MOA, the other just over. when I did my part it could shoot like this all day. I haven't cleaned the gun in 300 rounds, so it's a pretty good example of the field accuracy of this gun.
The gun has a barely one pound trigger, and using the "points" on the sighter target's diamonds as reference for the crosshairs made it easy to have the same hold.

After I shot these two groups I just loaded up mags and shot the swingers out at 300, 400, 500, and six hundred yards using the hashmarks in the US Optics scope. I cold have used their supplied ballistic table to set the scope for each range, but it was easy to hit the targets figuring holdover on the scope.

I just need to put back one spacer in the stock (I took out one too many) and get some 338 Lapua. If I can con someone into sending me some. The gun has to go to Ichiro Nagata for REAL photos and then back to teh factory, although the production DTAs are starting to come out.

It works.

C.G.
09-26-2008, 2:40 PM
I just need to put back one spacer in the stock (I took out one too many) and get some 338 Lapua. If I can con someone into sending me some.

If you get me a job doing what you are doing, I'll send you some .338 LM ammo.:)

bonjing
09-26-2008, 2:55 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/L1000916.jpg



what are the two things in the slot of the upper right corner of the case?

brando
09-26-2008, 3:00 PM
Indeed. Nick has designed one hell of a precision rifle :)

Bimmer2
09-26-2008, 3:02 PM
Spacers for the stock.

X-NewYawker
09-26-2008, 3:20 PM
what are the two things in the slot of the upper right corner of the case?

The two stock spacers I removed because Nick sent it figuring Lou Ferrigno was going to be the first shooter.

BTW -
Anyone that wants to bring 338 Lapua THEY can be the ones to shoot the gun. I'm not greedy. I don't need to drop the hammer on a round of 338. I need to hear other people's opinion of it as well.

tgriffin
09-26-2008, 3:21 PM
Who are you, what do you do, and how can I do it? Damn what a great job!

X-NewYawker
09-26-2008, 3:32 PM
Who are you, what do you do, and how can I do it? Damn what a great job!

World traveling international Man of Mystery.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/SOCOMopenerLR.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/L1000896.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/45AR.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/L1000575.jpg

You have to be recruited out of High School...
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/Dan4x6-1.jpg

trinydex
09-26-2008, 9:11 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/45AR.jpg

where did you get that one?

X-NewYawker
09-26-2008, 9:20 PM
MGI .45 ACP full auto interchangeable magwell (223. 762X39, 6.8, 45) at demo at Angeles.

Didn't get to keep it. But will be going to VEgas to shoot it some more with the reps;
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/Marineand4AR.jpg

5968
09-26-2008, 10:04 PM
I want your job X-New!!! Do you need a sidekick?

X-NewYawker
09-26-2008, 10:11 PM
I need someone to shoot the guns while I shoot the pictures. I don't have the time to test all the guns I have! I could've used someone with some 338 Lapua at Angeles today...

Cypriss32
09-26-2008, 11:01 PM
Should of called me up......... I like lapuas...

SJgunguy24
09-27-2008, 12:32 AM
O.K. so when you signed up for this gig. Did Satan have you use YOUR blood, or the blood of your first born child?

ar15barrels
09-27-2008, 1:24 AM
These are the two best six shot groups I shot at 100 yards:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/DTA-group-9-26.jpg

A whole 100yds?

The last time I shot a group, it was just to verify zero.
Here is 3 shots from a completely cold bore:

http://ar15barrels.com/gfx/coldbore.jpg

That's a sub 3/8 moa group from a STOCK remington barrel.
I paid $500 for the gun and have only changed the trigger, added scope, flush cups, bipod, cheekpiece etc...

http://ar15barrels.com/gfx/700.jpg

What's the price tag on that bullpup again?

X-NewYawker
09-27-2008, 9:42 AM
That's how we check zero. That's SIX shots -- my first three shots were all in one hole too -- how big does your group get?

You get my point? You're comparing apples to oranges. Putting a match trigger in a stock remington is great -- it's my recommendation for anyone who wants a tack driver (A stock 5-R and Leupold scope will outshoot just about every OLL we've been building. I've had them with factory triggers shoot .24 inch.) What is your point? You rifle shoots better than this user interchangeable barrel military sniper gun? Great.

Mt buddy Richard's Shilen-built DGA shoots 1/8 inch all day long. It isn't a bullpup and doesn't have picatinnty rails all over it.

Your $500 Remington has $1500 added to it.
DTA SRS costs more -- $3800 -- but it was designed for a specific purpose: Enemies won't see a SNIPER with a longer M-24 rifle case than any other soldier so they can single him out. With 308 barrel SRS is shorter than M-4. That's why SEALS have bought it.

I didn't post these shots to say that this gun (which doesn't belong to me) is better than anyone elses. Some civilian people WANT a gun that looks like this, they want to be able to loosen three screws and swap with a 338 Lapua barrel. I just try to let them know what the gun does in MY hands, the average shooting schmuck.

I try to INFORM the other Calgunners.
Not impress them.

A whole 100yds?

The last time I shot a group, it was just to verify zero.
Here is 3 shots from a completely cold bore:

http://ar15barrels.com/gfx/coldbore.jpg

That's a sub 3/8 moa group from a STOCK remington barrel.
I paid $500 for the gun and have only changed the trigger, added scope, flush cups, bipod, cheekpiece etc...

http://ar15barrels.com/gfx/700.jpg

What's the price tag on that bullpup again?

ar15barrels
09-27-2008, 12:21 PM
Your $500 Remington has $1500 added to it.

It does? :eek:
Please list off what you are talking about...

X-NewYawker
09-27-2008, 1:36 PM
Scope, new trigger, DBM.. whatever -- as a store you can get all these parts cheaper than the rest of us, so my point was it was disingenuous of you to refer to it as a "$500 rifle" to make the SRS look ridiculously expensive.
As I said, one is a user interchangeable barrel military sniper rifle and the other an off the shelf Remington, which are known as accurate rifles.

You were only comparing them to make me look like a tool.
As usual.

5968
09-27-2008, 1:37 PM
I need someone to shoot the guns while I shoot the pictures. I don't have the time to test all the guns I have! I could've used someone with some 338 Lapua at Angeles today...

I will pull the trigger for you! Just let me know when.;)

X-NewYawker
09-27-2008, 1:39 PM
I will pull the trigger for you! Just let me know when.;)

Where do you live? PM me.

5968
09-27-2008, 1:43 PM
PM sent!

X-NewYawker
09-27-2008, 1:47 PM
That's teh kind of Calgunner response I'm looking for! Response sent.

ar15barrels
09-27-2008, 3:06 PM
Scope, new trigger, DBM.. whatever -- as a store you can get all these parts cheaper than the rest of us, so my point was it was disingenuous of you to refer to it as a "$500 rifle" to make the SRS look ridiculously expensive.

Actually, I paid $500 for the gun WITH the DBM, off of gunsamerica.
I bought the 10rd mag, bipod and scope of course.
I made the cheekpiece myself.

As you see that gun, I have to following invested:
$500 gun with scope base, HS stock and HS bottom metal w/4rd mag
$120 for 10rd mag
$70 for rings
$700 for the scope from a calgunner
$90 for the bipod

Let's not forget the $2700 scope on that $3800 rifle of yours. ;)

X-NewYawker
09-27-2008, 3:32 PM
You're missing the point! Jesus are you THAt dim?

I guess you are! How can you compare the two? Yes you got a great deal on a factory rifle. We all bow to your bargaining skills.

Some people can afford a Tikki, some a Sako with their proprietary rings. Are you going to diss the people that opt for the Sako?

ar15barrels
09-27-2008, 3:56 PM
Some people can afford a Tikki, some a Sako with their proprietary rings. Are you going to diss the people that opt for the Sako?

I like those little island drinks with umbrellas in them.
Sako is good too.

X-NewYawker
09-27-2008, 4:09 PM
Better it's Tiki and Sake.

ar15barrels
09-27-2008, 4:11 PM
Better it's Tiki and Saki.

I was talking about the gun, but Sake is good too. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sake

X-NewYawker
09-27-2008, 4:58 PM
Sounds good, but I have never had a drink with alcohol in it.
I'll take your word for it.