Legal to Bring Live Ammunition on Campus?

[jc_stecker]

Yeah, I know it's a horrible idea and not advisable, but is there an actual law against it? I ask because I just made a mini-BoB for my vehicle, and was wondering if I should include some ammo in it.

[sorensen440]

k-12 or college ?

[jc_stecker]

k-12 or college ?

college

[sorensen440]

college

Its legal but they may still have an issue with it so keep a low profile on it being in your car and never ever ever submit to a search

[moulton]

I know my old campus had a policy of student sanctions (trespass warrant) if they cought you with guns, knifes....etc on campus.....yet the student cadets all had knifes and they didn't get kicked out :rolleyes:

[DRM6000]

who's going to check?

[Patriot]

Yeah, I know it's a horrible idea and not advisable, but is there an actual law against it? I ask because I just made a mini-BoB for my vehicle, and was wondering if I should include some ammo in it.

Guns are definitely inadvisable, and ammo = glorified pebble without a gun.

[jc_stecker]

Well, I scoured Ca PC's concerning schools and firearms, and found no restriction on possessing live ammunition. I also checked my college's online publications concerning the subject; same results.

I hope there isn't a long line at the Calguns Foundation. :TFH:

[sigsauer887]

Could you bring a handgun on campus and leave it in the car locked in a seperate Container?

[Blackwater OPS]

Why would you want to bring ammo on campus?

[MrPlutonium]

I've actually done it a couple times accidentally when going to the school gym. (I've really got to get a dedicated shooting bag) I guess it's okay as long as you don't pull it out around a bunch of lookie loos going "what is this doing in my bag??" I don't see any issues with it. Although for self defense pure better off carrying a big rock in your bag "a la Palestinian" :)

[jc_stecker]

Why would you want to bring ammo on campus?

As an item in my vehicle BoB.

[Patriot]

As an item in my vehicle BoB.

Maybe I'm just dense, but what good is ammo in your bug-out bag without a platform to fire it from (i.e. a gun)? If you need to retrieve the gun (as it isn't in your BOB), why not cache the ammo with it? Ammo is kind of heavy and - as I opined earlier - pretty much worthless without a gun to go with it. :confused:

[Crazed_SS]

As an item in my vehicle BoB.

What good is ammo without a gun? You plan on happening upon a gun that matches the caliber of ammo you're carrying?

If you have to "bug out" from school, I doubt you'll have time to go home and get the gun. If you have time to go home and get the gun, there's no reason to bring ammo to school since you're going home anyway..

[jc_stecker]

For instances where I cannot reach my ammo cache (i.e. house fire, coming back from the range, etc.) The school thing is just incidental.

[Librarian]

Could you bring a handgun on campus and leave it in the car locked in a seperate Container?
No. Without permission from President/Chancellor/Chief Administrator, need CCW to avoid "imprisonment in the state prison for one, two, or three years." PC 626.9 (i) Notwithstanding Section 12026, any person who brings or
possesses a firearm upon the grounds of a campus of, or buildings
owned or operated for student housing, teaching, research, or
administration by, a public or private university or college, that
are contiguous or are clearly marked university property, unless it
is with the written permission of the university or college
president, his or her designee, or equivalent university or college
authority, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for
one, two, or three years.

[Librarian]

Why would you want to bring ammo on campus?
A student in my classes was talking to me about guns one day. Next day, I brought 1 each of .22LR, 9mm, .45ACP, 7.62x39, 7.62x51 to show her the differences.

She later got her HSC and bought a revolver.

[SOneThreeCoupe]

No. Without permission from President/Chancellor/Chief Administrator, need CCW to avoid "imprisonment in the state prison for one, two, or three years." PC 626.9

Wow, that's completely and utterly ridiculous.

The mere fact that a firearm is completely and totally prohibited from being on campus for any reason at any time unless one fulfills either of only two exemptions makes my blood boil and my skin crawl.

I would guess that in this current atmosphere, one absolutely cannot get permission from an administrator to bring firearms onto campus for any reason.

[dwtt]

I would guess that in this current atmosphere, one absolutely cannot get permission from an administrator to bring firearms onto campus for any reason.
You guessed correctly.

[tombinghamthegreat]

Why would you want to bring ammo on campus?

Show and tell. I brought a 50bmg non-functing(keychain bullet but not practical due to its size) round to a class for art. Told the class it was a christmas decoration for the tree.

Could you bring a handgun on campus and leave it in the car locked in a seperate Container?

You cannot bring it on college campus without written consent as pointed out a few posts back but you could park off campus/school grounds with a gun, mags and the ammo all together in the trunk. If its a long gun, not in any prohibited area and there is no k-12 schools around you could have the unloaded long gun sitting in the front seat with the ammo/mags sitting next to.

[megavolt121]

No. Without permission from President/Chancellor/Chief Administrator, need CCW to avoid "imprisonment in the state prison for one, two, or three years." PC 626.9

This is a moot point as we are dealing with ammunition, not the firearm itself.

I went to a UC system school where I would always have ammo in my trunk (12 gauge for trap) as I never knew when I'd go trap shooting randomly. I never once got hassled for having ammo in the trunk as long as there was no firearm too. (And I had plenty of encounters with the powers that be at my school, I had 30 parking tickets in a 10 week period so my car was well known, yet I never had a hassle)

[Librarian]

This is a moot point as we are dealing with ammunition, not the firearm itself.
The question, which I quoted, was an off-thread-topic query about a firearm in a car on campus.

[megavolt121]

The question, which I quoted, was an off-thread-topic query about a firearm in a car on campus.

My bad, I did not see quoted question last night. Damn those drinks that make you miss minor details like that!

[Librarian]

My bad, I did not see quoted question last night. Damn those drinks that make you miss minor details like that!
Nah, you need another one or two - then you'll see lots of neat stuff. :)

[sierratangofoxtrotunion]

This is even more off-topic, but one time I went into the state building in downtown Oakland, and I had some 7.5mm swiss ammo, plus spent brass, and I completely forgot it was in there. I went through the metal detector, bag on conveyor belt, everything, and it wasn't until like 90 minutes later and I left that I realized it.

[uclaplinker]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=78196

Everyone is wrong. :p

12316 is the section you want...

Librarian: you forgot cause there's no space to add to your school thread :)

It's ambiguous as to whether it means college or K-12.

[Librarian]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=78196

Everyone is wrong. :p

12316 is the section you want...

Librarian: you forgot cause there's no space to add to your school thread :)

It's ambiguous as to whether it means college or K-12.

Sonny guns!

I Did Not Know That. (Or if I did, I forgot. :( )

12316.
...
(c) Unless it is with the written permission of the school
district superintendent, his or her designee, or equivalent school
authority, no person shall carry ammunition or reloaded ammunition
onto school grounds, except sworn law enforcement officers acting
within the scope of their duties or persons exempted under
subparagraph (A) of paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section
12027. This subdivision shall not apply to a duly appointed peace
officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of
Title 3 of Part 2, a full-time paid peace officer of another state or
the federal government who is carrying out official duties while in
California, any person summoned by any of these officers to assist in
making an arrest or preserving the peace while he or she is actually
engaged in assisting the officer, a member of the military forces of
this state or of the United States who is engaged in the performance
of his or her duties, a person holding a valid license to carry the
firearm pursuant to Article 3 (commencing with Section 12050) of
Chapter 1 of Title 2 of Part 4, or an armored vehicle guard, who is
engaged in the performance of his or her duties, as defined in
subdivision (e) of Section 7521 of the Business and Professions Code.
A violation of this subdivision is punishable by imprisonment in a
county jail for a term not to exceed six months, a fine not to exceed
one thousand dollars ($1,000), or both the imprisonment and fine.


I think the 'district superintendent' language makes it K-12, but you're right that it's not completely clear. Community Colleges also have districts, but as I recall they don't have superintendents; UC and CSU, and private colleges don't have districts. But there's that 'equivalent school authority' bit ...

Guess I better take the baggie with 1-each assorted calibers out of my school bag.

I went back and added it to post 3 in "what is loaded" http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=103660

[yellowfin]

In all this I hope it is made clear that we need to drive the anti 2A's out of the education system.

[Doheny]

I think 12316 is a stretch for colleges and universities. For instance, the UC system doesn't have a "school district superintendent"...each UC has a Chancellor and the system itself has a president. It appears to me that 12316is written for K-12.

[xrMike]

As an item in my vehicle BoB. (in answer to the question: "Why would you want to bring ammo on campus?")

But why would you want ammo in a BoB that didn't also have a weapon in it? Why wouldn't you just leave the ammo with the weapon, and (assuming you would add a weapon to the bag later, when able) add it to the bag at the same time as the weapon?

(pardon if you answered this already, I only skimmed the thread)