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apbrian112
09-12-2008, 7:52 PM
here's the question: how important is a bull/heavy/target barrel on a 22lr rifle?

i understand the need for larger caliber rifles (.223 on upwards) to have a heavy barrel cus the rounds heat the barrels to the point of losing accuracy after a short rapid fire session. but is this as much of a concern with rimfire cartridges (22lr in this example).

this rifle would primarily be used for the casual range plinking but i don't want to count out the possible/occasional "rimfire precision match".

also, i wanted to keep the rifle a little lighter so that my gf would enjoy shooting it more. my current rifles are too heavy for her (she's pretty petite, 5' 1" 100 lbs).

here's a short list of rifles i'm thinking of buying for this purpose:
-10/22
-savage MKII f
-savage MKII fv (heavy target barrel)
-savage 64 f (semi auto, thin barrel)

the perfect answer would be: buy one that's light: 10/22 into a nordic ar22 body (light ff, ace ultralight stock, hogue/ergo grip), and buy one that's heavy: savage MKII fv

anybody know where in the LA area that carries/stocks the savage MKII FV??

railroader
09-12-2008, 7:57 PM
For the 10/22 they also have light bull barrels like the ones from whistle pig. I also use to have a savage 64f. It was a handy little rifle. Another one to look at is the marlin 795. Accurate light rifle. Mark

apbrian112
09-12-2008, 8:02 PM
thanks for the heads up... yeah, i know about the lightweight barrels for the 10/22 (which also cost as much if not more than the 10/22 :()

i'll have to look into the 795... always hear about them whenever rimfire discussions come up but never looked into them cus the 10/22 was king-ding-a-ling...

ojisan
09-12-2008, 8:59 PM
Check out the Ruger 10/22 CRR (Youth) model...it has a tapered 16" barrel and is very compact, light and easy to handle. Plus you can change it any way you want later.

apbrian112
09-12-2008, 9:11 PM
yeah... i'll probably end up picking up both the 10/22 and a savage mkII FV if i can find them both in the same place.

X-NewYawker
09-12-2008, 9:27 PM
Why have two okay guns when you can have one GREAT one?
Get a used 10/22 (under 150 buckjs) toss out everything except the receiver. and put a volquartsen carbon fiber match barrel and match trigger in it. Find the lightest full size stock and you'll have a gun that's Light, and shoot circles around any other .22 semi.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/Vol-Parts.jpg

X-NewYawker
09-12-2008, 9:34 PM
To wit:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/Volquartsen22.jpg

This was either 75 or 100 yards.

apbrian112
09-12-2008, 9:44 PM
let me knwo where i can get a 10/22 for $150 (+35 dros *ppt) and i'll pick up 2 of them...

X-NewYawker
09-12-2008, 9:53 PM
Two years ago I bought three beaters from Rettings for $140 each and built three great match guns. The receiver has to have structural damage not to work, and you can see that. The barrel, stock, etc is gonna be tossed anyway.

Big Five sells NEW ones (plastic trigger group I'm gonna toss anyway) around $200 all the time: Today's ad:

http://big5sportinggoods.shoplocal.com/big5/default.aspx?action=detail&storeid=2579858&rapid=0&listingid=-2091065143&offerid=

X-NewYawker
09-12-2008, 9:56 PM
Watch out for brass!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/RcdVolquartsen.jpg

AC Gould
09-12-2008, 10:07 PM
The reasons for a heavy/bull barrel is for the stiffness. Barrels tend to flex when a shot is fired...(kinda like a hose with high water pressure will whip) and the less movement, the more the accuracy/ consistancy potential. Also for target shooting, the heavier barrels tend to move more slowly when hand-held...prone, off-hand, and sitting/kneeling...kind of a weght dampening effect.

The quality of the inside of a barrel is much more important than the outside diameter of the barrel when it comes to accuracy. Second is the quality of the ammo you use. Crummy ammo will shoot poorly in the best of barrels and great ammo will likely shoot better in a cheapo barrel than the junk stuff. Third is the type of chamber. Tight match chambers are great with bolt guns and match ammo, but are a poor choice for semi-autos.

For your stated purposes, get a high quality barrel and don't concen yourself too much with it being a bull barrel...get a weight that feels comfortable to you and those that will use it. If you get serious about competitive shooting, get a competitive gun.

smokingloon
09-13-2008, 1:28 AM
also check out the CZ 452

apbrian112
09-13-2008, 11:30 AM
thanks for all the suggestions guys... i'm spending a bit of time over on RFC reading up on different guns.

elsolo
09-13-2008, 11:40 AM
How do you intend to shoot it?

Heavy barrel is very nice for shooting off a bench or bipod, but I wouldn't want to carry one around all day.

double_action
09-13-2008, 11:48 AM
The Big 5 in Ventura had a 10/22 with the metal TG on the rack a few days ago.

apbrian112
09-13-2008, 12:54 PM
How do you intend to shoot it?

Heavy barrel is very nice for shooting off a bench or bipod, but I wouldn't want to carry one around all day.

well, i think i'm planning on getting 2 22lr's... i have a ciener kit, but want to build a lightweight dedicated 22lr for the gf (ok it's really for me), and get a heavy one that'll be shot primarily from a bench.

Fjold
09-13-2008, 5:46 PM
I like a heavoer barrel on rimfires because the 22 rimfires are so light that they don't hold steady for me. The bull barrels shift the weight forward and take a lot of the wobble out of the gun when shooting offhand.