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PIRATE14
09-12-2008, 9:59 AM
Been looking at this interesting rifle.....low cost, BB looks like an easy fix....we can block the mags to 10 easily....

What do you guys think.....45ACP and 9MM...

Only thing about these is that they weigh a ton....known trigger slap...

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/wegoclan/0016.jpg

Size comparison....
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/wegoclan/0026.jpg

DedEye
09-12-2008, 10:03 AM
Honestly? It's ugly. Not my bag. I'd rather pay more and get more.

sjpd
09-12-2008, 10:11 AM
Mac10 and Mac11 ish...How much $$

ohsmily
09-12-2008, 10:14 AM
The Mac platform is not known as being very reliable or accurate. So why adapt it to a full size carbine? I suppose low cost could be a factor IF in fact they are low cost.

PIRATE14
09-12-2008, 10:14 AM
Mac10 and Mac11 ish...How much $$

550-600....depends on CALI parts and mags....

kurac
09-12-2008, 10:15 AM
I don't like paying a lot for cheap guns

sjpd
09-12-2008, 10:23 AM
The carbine lengths have been around for decades...cobray once sold a similar upper. Pirate14, PM sent.

DedEye
09-12-2008, 10:41 AM
550-600....depends on CALI parts and mags....

Could buy a 9mm AR upper, couldn't it? Eh, it's where my money would go (it'd probably still end up getting sent to Hector as it is :chris:!).

tgriffin
09-12-2008, 10:47 AM
Hell yeah I want one! That would look amazing with a "can" on it!

sjpd
09-12-2008, 10:50 AM
Hey Dedeye you know I already have 2 9mm ARs, one of them is on your old DS lower. Just need a Mac10ish thing to go with the m11 and m12 sitting in the safe:cool2:

JeffM
09-12-2008, 11:03 AM
How long it it?

g17owner
09-12-2008, 11:06 AM
I guess i now know what happens when An AR and a MAC have little ones. Not for me.

Guntech
09-12-2008, 11:13 AM
Personally, I hate macs and the reputation they have.

CHS
09-12-2008, 12:51 PM
I would definitely buy one in .45.. Is it true to spec? Will other uppers be compatible? Would love an inexpensive .45 carbine just for fun.

saki302
09-12-2008, 4:47 PM
Macs are not 'known' to be reliable and accurate. HOWEVER...

I built one almost 10 years ago- lathed off the threads in 1999.

Mine shoots Sten mags, has been 100% reliable, even with JHP, and is accurate. Surprisingly so- but I did work the trigger. It breaks like a std. AR now, with just a little slap. You don't notice it when firing. I did not mod anything for reliability- it just is.

I think the accuracy rep is from the awful factory triggers and nothing else. It's still a blowback pistol with a fixed barrel/sight relationship, and it's HEAVY and pretty stable.

I don't think I'd want one as a carbine though. It was an interesting project, but ergonomically sucks. And it still doesn't do anything a Glock 17 doesn't do, except weigh more.

-Dave

radioburning
09-12-2008, 8:58 PM
Massive can ala Pulp Fiction, and a pinned underfolder style stock would definitely make me want to own one in .45, hint hint...

wilit
09-12-2008, 9:39 PM
If you could do one with a fake can and a wire stock I think it'd be much more marketable than the PM-11 look.

See, much cooler.
http://www.sabotairsoft.co.uk/images/weapons/M11.jpg

technique
09-12-2008, 9:43 PM
I love that company. I have a Mini mac in Idaho, Can't hit anything with it....but it fun!

ChrisXD45T
09-12-2008, 9:55 PM
Are we not allowed to have one in pistol form?

PolishMike
09-12-2008, 9:55 PM
Take some initiative and build a pistol ;) You can use those old sten mags everyone has hidden in their closets
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii260/USNMAC/DSCN0516.jpg

ChrisXD45T
09-12-2008, 9:58 PM
Take some initiative and build a pistol ;) You can use those old sten mags everyone has hidden in their closets

What are the current companies out there making parts?
I know nothing about what's new with these guns given that they are quite uncommon in CA.

PolishMike
09-12-2008, 10:00 PM
What are the current companies out there making parts?
I know nothing about what's new with these guns given that they are quite uncommon in CA.


You can buy weld-receiver kits, as well as uppers, FCG, ect at FTF industries. A lot of people rag on them but I had great luck and good communication with them when I placed my order.

You weld the receiver and the magwell(sten mags are best IMO). You have to take the threads off the barrel and your gtg.

ChrisXD45T
09-12-2008, 10:39 PM
You can buy weld-receiver kits, as well as uppers, FCG, ect at FTF industries. A lot of people rag on them but I had great luck and good communication with them when I placed my order.

You weld the receiver and the magwell(sten mags are best IMO). You have to take the threads off the barrel and your gtg.
What about a serial number?
I don't see anything that states what part requires an FFL.

makav3li
09-12-2008, 10:59 PM
If you could do one with a fake can and a wire stock I think it'd be much more marketable than the PM-11 look.

See, much cooler.
http://www.sabotairsoft.co.uk/images/weapons/M11.jpg

i agree, i would be more likely to buy if it looked like that.

JeffM
09-12-2008, 11:04 PM
What about a serial number?
I don't see anything that states what part requires an FFL.

The parts are not a gun and do not require transfer through an FFL, but when you weld the plates and grip together, then it is a firearm. It's the same as building a pistol from an AK flat, 80% AR lower, or 80% 1911 frame.

PolishMike
09-13-2008, 7:45 AM
What about a serial number?
I don't see anything that states what part requires an FFL.


Yep, no ffl required. You weld it together, engrave your own serial number. No one has to know about it. You can _optionally_ register it if you so desire.

Calguns2000
09-13-2008, 8:04 AM
That is quite possibly the ugliest rifle I have ever seen.

PIRATE14
09-13-2008, 8:40 AM
That is quite possibly the ugliest rifle I have ever seen.

You obviously haven't seen some of SALs built up rifles.......:eek::D