Open Mag Well

[joelogic]

I was reading that you should never have an open mag well with any evil features on your AR.

The Bullet Button makes it a fixed magazine.

But dropping the mag would make it illegal.

How do these things allign when Chabot asks you to remove your mag during a cease fire?

Or how about during competitions? You can't run a pistol grip or you have to pop the gun in half.

[bdsmchs]

There is nothing wrong whatsoever with an open magwell. The AWB outlaws DETACHABLE mags. An open magwell+BB allows for ATTACHABLE mags.

If you drop a mag with a BB, you are still legal because you've removed the mag with a tool, and there is no law against attachable mags.

I use a bullet button, and at most ranges I go to I simply drop the mag (using the tip of a bullet), and open the action. That is a LEGALLY configured firearm.

Some ranges do prefer that you don't drop the mag, even with a BB. In those cases, leave the mag in, close the action, and unhinge the AR to show an "open" action.

[Adonlude]

Some people say not to drop the mag becuase when the police are trying to shove the long arm of the law up your arse it is easier to explain to them that your rifle has a fixed magazine when there is indeed a fixed magazine in there.

Easier than trying to explain the technicalities between "detachable" and "attachable".

[ohsmily]

:banghead: The bullet button ensures that your rifle is not capable of accepting a detachable magazine. You don't believe me? Put a magazine into a rifle equipped with a bullet button. Then try removing it without the use of a tool. It is not detachable. Open mag well is fine.




Relax. Get over it. You are fine. If you are uncomfortable with the bullet button, then just don't use it; go featureless or use a prince 50. However, I think the bullet button is safer than a prince 50 because a Prince 50 can just be loosened thereby creating a full functioning magazine release.

[joelogic]

This is what I was reading and why I was concerned.

http://www.calguns.net/copmemo2.pdf

Page 4


"A fixed magazine - one that is screwed down and requires use of a tool and some period of time to remove, and which cannot be “readily removed” or replaced in normal course operation of the rifle – is not a detachable magazine. Such a magazine indeed fully honors, in letter and spirit, the converse of the above definition of detachable magazine.
Nut/bolt setups retaining fixed magazines should never be able to loosen on their own or be unloosened by hand, so lockwashers and some Locktite™ are useful – especially since the fixed magazine should never be removed while a pistol grip and/or telestock is attached! Placement of some adhesive inside the magazine well is also helpful."

[aplinker]

Old memo... pre-bullet button.

This question is posted almost weekly by someone who reads that old thing and assumes it's scripture.

This is what I was reading and why I was concerned.

http://www.calguns.net/copmemo2.pdf

Page 4


"A fixed magazine - one that is screwed down and requires use of a tool and some period of time to remove, and which cannot be “readily removed” or replaced in normal course operation of the rifle – is not a detachable magazine. Such a magazine indeed fully honors, in letter and spirit, the converse of the above definition of detachable magazine.
Nut/bolt setups retaining fixed magazines should never be able to loosen on their own or be unloosened by hand, so lockwashers and some Locktite™ are useful – especially since the fixed magazine should never be removed while a pistol grip and/or telestock is attached! Placement of some adhesive inside the magazine well is also helpful."

[Richieboy]

So wait a minute.

Whats the difference between an attachable magazine and a detachable magazine?

If I can take a mag and put it in a rifle with a BB, then put the same mag in a gripless rifle, how is it not attachable AND detachable?

The law, as writen, discusses a rifles capacity to accept a detachable magazine, it doesnt say anything about the rifle itself being attachable or detachable, just the magazine.

So since the magazine can be either attachable or detachable depending on the rifle config, how can it be legal to use in a BB equiped rifle? The magazine itself is detachable, just not in that particular rifle.

***I am not being serious, but think about it, the law attributes "detachable" with the magazine, not the rifle. :eek: