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X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 10:05 PM
Desert Tactical Arms SRS Serial # Prototype 2 picked up in the store today:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/DTASRS.jpg
This rifle was just evaluated by the Navy SEALS and next it is going to Bragg for SF T&E. I get to blast a few in between.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/_MG_4582.jpg
Bullpup style Sniper rifle.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/_MG_4587.jpg

338 Lapua with extra .308 bolt and barrel.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/_MG_4588.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/_MG_4586.jpg

offrdmania
09-09-2008, 10:08 PM
Im not a huge fan of bull pups but I really like the looks of this one, very clean lines. Nice rifle, congrats

JesseXXX
09-09-2008, 10:09 PM
GOD!!!:43:

Bowser
09-09-2008, 10:16 PM
Videos please! I remember seeing pictures of it from the Shot Show and was quite interested in it.

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 10:18 PM
How do we post videos here?

Bowser
09-09-2008, 10:22 PM
You have to make an account on youtube and upload it there then post the video using the forum's youtube code.

Full Clip
09-09-2008, 10:37 PM
Bullpup self-loaders me no like; this I like.

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 10:39 PM
It has all the possible spacers in the stock because it will be shot by my enormous pal Lou -- but then I'm gonna pull the spacers so I can shoot it.
The bolt was surprising easy to "dry cycle" from the shoulder. I had worried about the position of the bolt.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/_MG_4583.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/_MG_4585.jpg

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 10:41 PM
I seriously wish you would come out and shoot once and awhile instead of sitting behind your keyboard with your knee and elbow pads on.

Lateralus
09-09-2008, 10:44 PM
WOW!

Im diggin' it BIG TIME!!!

JesseXXX
09-09-2008, 10:49 PM
I HATE U :D

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 10:49 PM
I seriously wish you would come out and shoot once and awhile instead of sitting behind your keyboard with your knee and elbow pads on.

I shoot once a week. Where are you?
As I said before, the elbow pad is for a damaged ulna nerve. Never wore knee pads.

I guess that was a slight.

I'll feel bad all the way to the range with this $5500 rifle.
:)

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 10:53 PM
You allways make me laugh no matter what you say........ Dont make me take pics of my POS rifles and post them. Ohhh wait you dont own that rifle do you and you never will. Do you ever shoot past 100 yards except at 20foot steel targets? Writing a gun fires when the trigger is pulled, hits somewere down range, and looks cool doesnt take a rocket scientist to do bro.

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 10:58 PM
Adam (formerly Cypiss) is OBSESSED with my elbow pad. Were you frightened by a football player as a child?
No pads: http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/GUN_SHOOT_JML_0446.jpg
No pads:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/JFshootsP250.jpg
No pads:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/45Squirtgun.jpg
No pads:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/MenXCR.jpg
So, to sum up: NO CONCRETE bench at Angeles tearing up my elbow, no pad. Not about tacti-cool. About no permanent nerve damage (wearing one NOW as I type) When you shoot literally 100s of thousands of rounds a year, those benches take their toll.

When you can get some real time behiind the go button you'll see the value of the pads, Adam.
:)

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:00 PM
What a joke. Keep it coming..... Once again I guess I know nothing about shooting do I?

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:01 PM
You allways make me laugh no matter what you say........ Dont make me take pics of my POS rifles and post them. Ohhh wait you dont own that rifle do you and you never will. Do you ever shoot past 100 yards except at 20foot steel targets? Writing a gun fires when the trigger is pulled, hits somewere down range, and looks cool doesnt take a rocket scientist to do bro.

Then why don't you have a cool job like me?
I get to shoot and own whatever I want. I'm sorry I don't get them all scratched up and dented like you do. Now, do you shoot them or just drag them behind your pickup on the way up to the range?

Seriously, I'm glad I make you laugh. That's why I post here, foolish man. So Some of the others can see stuff they MAY want to investigate and invest in some day.

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:03 PM
Maybe I need to take a nicer approach to you. You are invited to a range day when we start it with the club.

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:07 PM
What a joke. Keep it coming..... Once again I guess I know nothing about shooting do I?


I'm into my guns for fun. I think a lot of guys here are. .

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:08 PM
Maybe I need to take a nicer approach to you. You are invited to a range day when we start it with the club.

Now that's a good start. I appreciate that.

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:08 PM
Check yourself. I tried to be nice and edit...

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:09 PM
BUt then I will miss your crapping on my "safe queens"

:)

soopafly
09-09-2008, 11:10 PM
WTF is up with X-NewYawker and Adam? You guys have past dealings with each other?:confused:

I just appreciate XNY posting pics of stuff he evaluates.

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:10 PM
Check yourself. I tried to be nice and edit...

My elbow pad slows down my trying so I wrote that when the last thing your wrote was still disparaging -- see/ i editted.

What kind of guns do you like to shoot yourself? Are you an AR guy or a bolt guy?

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:11 PM
My invation will be open, Just come and shoot. It should be posted soon, if we can get together properly.

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:11 PM
WTF is up with X-NewYawker and Adam? You guys have past dealings with each other?:confused:

I just appreciate XNY posting pics of stuff he evaluates.

NOthing is up. Right, Adam?

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:12 PM
Cool. peaceness all around.

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:13 PM
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Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:13 PM
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Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:14 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/GUNS004.jpg
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X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:15 PM
One of my favorite pics from the range - shell in the air, sand kicked up behind target. SAI Loaded in JAE Gen 1

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/Lou-Jae-brass.jpg

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:16 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/HTG002.jpg
My new 7wsm:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/m70001.jpg

LTR in 308
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/Stock001.jpg

AR15 Barrels built SPR Novieke Barrel good guts
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/adam5432002/Arparts004.jpg

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:16 PM
Brother you're a bolt man too! Whataya ragging on me for? I'm not a squirt gun guy. What's teh tan stock one past teh AICS?
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/Chandler-rifles.jpg

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:20 PM
Manners Composite stocks. If you have a bolt gun that needs a new stock. Get one, feels like AICS, 90% carbon, GAP (George) parked his truck on it and it didnt break. Very light and VERY strong! I love them.

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:24 PM
Where are they sold out of?
It looks a lot like a stock design McMillan made on contract for a guy named Billy Martin for his "LOD" rifle. It was the first stock I ever shot that had that hook for your off hand under the stock for bone contact on your forearm muscles as a sort of living rear sandbag. It was one of the most accurate rifles I ever shot, and of course when teh article was done I moved on to other rifles by Macmillan was selling the stock until just about two years ago when they ran out. are they all made by different smiths?

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:28 PM
http://mannersstocks.com/

Tom is a cool dude. Ive had around 6 or so of his stocks. You can check the pics, 2x MCS-Ts, 2x T1s, T2, GATs. His stuff is top notch. I like them more then MCM stocks. My HTG, the green rifle im thinking about switching it to a Manners GAT like my new M70 7wsm.


I love the 7wsm, 180gr VLDS 2900fps, .689 bc. Whats not to like? KICKs a little with no brake thow. My next build is around a Mak Tube Chassis. 1-7.5tw Deep Fluted Cut Rifled barrel, USO scope, PRS rear stock, MIAD grip, eather 243win or 6XC. Labeled "poor mans Tubb gun'

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:31 PM
I have been thinking of making a MAK with Magpul sniper buttstock -- getting back to THIS thing -- when I was just a "regular" gun owner I would NEVER had a chance to try something like this out without dropping 5 large -- So I want the Calgunners to get to see it, too.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/DTASRS.jpg

Addax
09-09-2008, 11:39 PM
Beautiful Rifle!

So, when do I get to see this one in action?

Sniper3142
09-09-2008, 11:39 PM
The Desert Tactical rifles do look good.

There were several questions asked on Snipers Hide that I was wondering if you can answer.

- Have you been able to cycle the bolt without breaking your cheek weld?

- Has Desert Tactical decided to make longer barrel options for these rifles (the current ones are too short to fully utilize the rounds in some peoples opinion)?

- What kind of accuracy are we seeing with these?

- How do the triggers feel after some use (this has been the weak point of some bullpup designs)?

Thank for posting the pics BTW.

Cypriss32
09-09-2008, 11:40 PM
The guys on the HIDE, Really like them. They are so much shorter then a comperable 338L. Is the 338 barrel 28? If it is, its a good lengh. I dont see the need for running a 32" barrel. They just get to be too long.

X-NewYawker
09-09-2008, 11:49 PM
The Desert Tactical rifles do look good.
JUST GOT IT FROM TEH STORE AT 5:00

There were several questions asked on Snipers Hide that I was wondering if you can answer.

- Have you been able to cycle the bolt without breaking your cheek weld?

DRY FIRING -- AWKWARD but ALMOST

- Has Desert Tactical decided to make longer barrel options for these rifles (the current ones are too short to fully utilize the rounds in some peoples opinion)?

THIS IS PROTOTYPE # 2 more barrel lengths to come.

- What kind of accuracy are we seeing with these?
The test group that came with the gun was impressive -- NAVY SEALS thought it was very impressive. We'll have to get a better marksman than me to wring it out at the range.

- How do the triggers feel after some use (this has been the weak point of some bullpup designs)?

Again, after a the firing, we'll see.

Thank for posting the pics BTW.

I was really intereste din seeing what this gun would do in 308. Lou asked them to send it in 338 with a 308 caliber change. The 308 barel is VERY beefy. They claim it shoots 168s and 175 equally. We'll see.

technique
09-09-2008, 11:52 PM
Nice looking, a little plasticy for my taste, lets get a range report on that!

Sniper3142
09-10-2008, 7:34 AM
The guys on the HIDE, Really like them.

That might be a bit of an exaggeration. Most people on the Hide haven't made up their minds one way or the other about these rifles.

The questions I asked were also asked on the Hide and I'm wondering if any of the concerns or issues were addressed.

Solidsnake87
09-10-2008, 8:58 AM
Holy crap! How much is the base gun and where can i snag one? :D

X-NewYawker
09-10-2008, 9:27 AM
338LM 26” fluted barrel (+DTA Muzzle brake) $3,585
300WIN 26” fluted barrel $3,415
243WIN 26” fluted barrel $3,275
308WIN 22” fluted barrel $3,275
Conversion Kits
338LM Includes Bolt, Barrel, 1 magazine $1,480
300WIN Includes Bolt, Barrel, 1 magazine $1,305
243WIN Includes Bolt, Barrel, 1 magazine $1,165
308WIN Includes Bolt, Barrel, 1 magazine $1,165
Accessories

DTA One-Piece scope rings (34mm, or 35mm)
40 MOA Taper

$190
DTA One-Piece scope rings (34mm, or 35mm) 35 MOA Taper $190
DTA One-Piece scope rings (34mm, or 35mm) 20 MOA Taper $190
DTA 30mm scope ring reducers $25

DTA SRS Magazine 338LM (5 rd) / 300WIN (6 rd) $65
DTA SRS Magazine 308WIN/243WIN (6 round) $65

Tactical Intervention Sling

Quick Cuff Model 1 (OD or Black) $85
Custom Hard Case OD & Tan TBA

DTA Muzzle-brake

338LM $165
DTA Muzzle-brake 308WIN/300WIN $165

GGG Bipod Std Tactical Bipod $199.99
Harris Bipod HBRM-S 6"-9" w/ notched legs and swivel $98.99
Bipod Adapter Mounts to picatinny rails $35

brando
09-10-2008, 9:30 AM
That's one hell of a rifle and a lot of people don't know but the company was started by a fellow ELR shooter in the .408 community. It's performed exceptionally well and they've done a great job refining the design since it's debut at SHOT.

rolly
09-10-2008, 10:17 AM
[QUOTE=X-NewYawker;1510975]Desert Tactical Arms SRS Serial # Prototype 2 picked up in the store today:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p54/Fasanoland/_MG_4582.jpg
QUOTE]

I AM IN LOVE !

rksimple
09-10-2008, 11:22 AM
Running that bolt quickly while not breaking cheek weld would probably take some practice. Nonetheless, it looks like a killer rifle. Love the "quickchangeability" of barrels. Long range results I've seen posted have been stellar.

trinydex
09-10-2008, 12:46 PM
so are my left handed bretheren screwed?

brando
09-10-2008, 12:48 PM
Running that bolt quickly while not breaking cheek weld would probably take some practice. Nonetheless, it looks like a killer rifle. Love the "quickchangeability" of barrels. Long range results I've seen posted have been stellar.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=D4N8gN3Z-_I

trinydex
09-10-2008, 12:52 PM
Manners Composite stocks. If you have a bolt gun that needs a new stock. Get one, feels like AICS, 90% carbon, GAP (George) parked his truck on it and it didnt break. Very light and VERY strong! I love them.

wow a cf stock? how much was it?

rksimple
09-10-2008, 1:00 PM
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=D4N8gN3Z-_I

Looks pretty good, but he still moves his head out of the way of his hand a bit. Doesn't look like you'd be able to run the bolt like 'ol Tony here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxmapoqMM8I

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Cypriss32
09-10-2008, 1:04 PM
wow a cf stock? how much was it?

Depending on specs, 425-675.00 same as MCM, Prolly a little cheaper. Plus Tom is a Great guy. He will take care of you, under any circumstances!

X-NewYawker
09-10-2008, 1:04 PM
Keeping the cheek weld is partially academic -- 338 Lapua recoil and you're adjusting your head position with any rifle.

Who has some 338 lapua ammo here in So Cal? You wanna be the ones to shoot this rifle for groups?

PM me.

X-NewYawker
09-10-2008, 1:06 PM
Looks pretty good, but he still moves his head out of the way of his hand a bit. Doesn't look like you'd be able to run the bolt like 'ol Tony here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxmapoqMM8I

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Tony AIN'T shooting 338 Lapua in this video.

rksimple
09-10-2008, 1:10 PM
Keeping the cheek weld is partially academic -- 338 Lapua recoil and you're adjusting your head position with any rifle.

Who has some 338 lapua ammo here in So Cal? You wanna be the ones to shoot this rifle for groups?

PM me.

Yes but when you do a quick barrel swap to 308, it is.;)

ETA: I'm comparing the 308 in Brandos post to Tony's boltwork. The 338, 408, et. al. are a different story.

trinydex
09-10-2008, 1:20 PM
Looks pretty good, but he still moves his head out of the way of his hand a bit. Doesn't look like you'd be able to run the bolt like 'ol Tony here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxmapoqMM8I

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that reminds me of how spastic the heel toe down shifts are for some of the race drivers in the world

trinydex
09-10-2008, 1:23 PM
Looks pretty good, but he still moves his head out of the way of his hand a bit. Doesn't look like you'd be able to run the bolt like 'ol Tony here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxmapoqMM8I

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that reminds me of how spastic the heel toe down shifts are for some of the race drivers in the world

X-NewYawker
09-10-2008, 2:35 PM
Production guns (coming off the line now) will have some enhancements in safety position, buttstock, finish, etc.,