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valleyguy
09-08-2008, 1:19 PM
Hi all,

New to the hobby -- got my 10/22 going at the range this weekend, really enjoyed it, and with the cheap ammo, I shot for hours for almost nothing. I wanted to also get my wife off to the range with me, but we realized that at 4'11", even the very light and fairly compact 10/22 (with synthetic stock) was too big for her to hold and shoot comforably. I'm 6'2", so if anything, the 10/22 was a little short, and probably needs a little bit of a slip-on butt extender, but that's another story.

Anyways, was curious here if anyone else had this problem, and can short women shoot a rifle standing, or are they relegated to sitting, prone, or handguns?

BP88
09-08-2008, 1:27 PM
I'm sure there are some custom stocks you could purchase for a smaller shooter.

joemama
09-08-2008, 1:27 PM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l237/erpd590/IMG_7105.jpg

She could prolly handle one of these. Its a Cricket .22LR. BTW the guy at safer arms told me that a 12 yr old girl came in and shot the S&W 500 without getting knocked on her butt. Just show her how to shoot properly and she probably wont have a problem.:)

BP88
09-08-2008, 1:33 PM
Oh, I forgot a lot of companies make 'junior' models. I don't know if I read it on this board or not, but one company tends to make their 'junior' models with lower quality. It could have just been a bad rifle, though.

jandmtv
09-08-2008, 1:33 PM
I think a Spikes dedicated 22lr would fit her just fine. Or maybe even a GSG5.

sonicbuff
09-08-2008, 1:36 PM
...we realized that at 4'11", even the very light and fairly compact 10/22 (with synthetic stock) was too big for her to hold and shoot comforably.

Look into the Butler creek folding stock which has the pistol grip. The grip would give a lot more leverage. The synthetic stock is also a bit lighter than the wood stock.

fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
09-08-2008, 1:38 PM
My GF is roughly the same size, a little taller

Get your wife a springfield socom 16.....
My GF enjoyed that one :whistling:

EOD3
09-08-2008, 2:56 PM
My oldest granddaughter is about that tall, I bought her one of the single-shot Marlin's.

aplinker
09-08-2008, 7:45 PM
Something with a collapsible stock (one that uses an AR-15 carbine stock like this (http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0050094228644a.shtml) and you'd both be able to use it or one of Ruger's "Junior" stocks would work.

50BMGBOB
09-08-2008, 8:20 PM
I'm in the same boat. My wife is short and I'm tall. She is left handed and left eyed, I'm right handed and eyed. It was a great excuse to buy her own guns. We went thru a few handguns to find what worked for her. Now she has two handguns and a 10-22 that are set up to fit her. Although, I think my kids have shot the 10-22 more than she has. Take the time and money to get a/some guns that fit her even if they don't fit you. It will be worth it.

EBR Works
09-08-2008, 8:24 PM
My wife is 5' tall and she loves her 10/22 with Tapco telescoping stock. Everyone that has shot it has been able to adjust the stock adequately.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/crapco.jpg


Last month I bought her a Walther P22CA pistol which fits her tiny hands perfectly.

drawn
09-08-2008, 8:25 PM
This is the shortest and lightest 10/22 I've worked on. Bell and Carlson cut the stock and remounted the butt pad. The barrel is sleeved fluted aluminum. The whole rifle seems to weigh less than some pistols I own.
http://www.armoryairbrush.com/images/examples/CLIENT%20DESIGNS/10%2022%20right.JPG

aplinker
09-08-2008, 8:41 PM
And designed to blend & disappear in the room of any froo-froo girl ;)

This is the shortest and lightest 10/22 I've worked on. Bell and Carlson cut the stock and remounted the butt pad. The barrel is sleeved fluted aluminum. The whole rifle seems to weigh less than some pistols I own.
http://www.armoryairbrush.com/images/examples/CLIENT%20DESIGNS/10%2022%20right.JPG

norcal-ar
09-09-2008, 6:16 AM
bull pup it and she'll be fine.

Sumo99
09-09-2008, 8:17 AM
The SKS has a pretty short length of pull, but a fat grip and a bit on the heavy side.

Not the greatest rifle around, but the Kel Tec is short and it's light.

My friend, she's about 5'2", had no problem shooting either from a standing position. She did prefer the Kel Tec, I think because she is more accurate with it (It has a 2x red dot).
She did not like my M1A. 2 rounds and she handed it back to me.

valleyguy
09-09-2008, 8:40 AM
Are there bullpup stocks for 10/22's?

Impacto, I've been eyeing that one online -- You like it ok? One vendor doesn't want to send to L.A. I'll check to see if other vendors will do it though, I think some vendors are just paranoid. Also, did that barrel-area grip come with it, or separately?

EBR Works
09-09-2008, 9:06 AM
It's ok stuff for a 10/22 and relatively inexpensive.

All available direct from Tapco here:

http://www.tapco.com/catalog.aspx?id=293

The bullpup conversions out there are generally junk so I wouldn't go with that route. Examples here:

http://www.gunaccessories.com/MWG/index.asp

I may regret mentioning it....but.....Krinker Plinker is an option:

http://www.krinkerplinker.com/

If you want to spend a whole lot of money for the best, go with this:

http://www.rbprecision.com/id72.htm

valleyguy
09-09-2008, 9:14 AM
With the Tapco, can you still use the open sights, or does it pretty much require a scope or something similar? If so, can you recommend an inexpensive one that is decent?

ar15barrels
09-09-2008, 9:43 AM
This is the shortest and lightest 10/22 I've worked on. Bell and Carlson cut the stock and remounted the butt pad. The barrel is sleeved fluted aluminum. The whole rifle seems to weigh less than some pistols I own.
http://www.armoryairbrush.com/images/examples/CLIENT%20DESIGNS/10%2022%20right.JPG

Where did the sights go? :sleeping:

valleyguy
09-09-2008, 4:10 PM
I ended up grabbing the Tapco stock impacto recommended, and a cheapo NCstar (I know, they're crap) red dot just to let her have a bit of fun if we can't use open sights with the stock on.

EBR Works
09-09-2008, 4:30 PM
The scope we have is an NCStar also. It's not great, but fine for a plinker 10/22. I haven't tried but I don't believe the stock irons are useable with the Tapco stock.

drawn
09-09-2008, 4:35 PM
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s150/stagebeast/1022sightfront.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s150/stagebeast/1022sightrear.jpg

Here ya go, Randall is the go to machinist on this custom stuff and could duplicate this rifle if the OP or anyone else is interested. He drilled and tapped two different thread types and installed the sights .
The story goes my clients eight year old daughter gets to replace the sights on the above rifle, with a scope finished to match the rifle once she learns how to sight in and use the iron sights proficiently. The sights weren't finished as they are only a training tool and it's anticipated they won't return to the rifle except for the screws which are finished.

Guntech
09-09-2008, 5:10 PM
Hi all,

New to the hobby -- got my 10/22 going at the range this weekend, really enjoyed it, and with the cheap ammo, I shot for hours for almost nothing. I wanted to also get my wife off to the range with me, but we realized that at 4'11", even the very light and fairly compact 10/22 (with synthetic stock) was too big for her to hold and shoot comforably. I'm 6'2", so if anything, the 10/22 was a little short, and probably needs a little bit of a slip-on butt extender, but that's another story.

Anyways, was curious here if anyone else had this problem, and can short women shoot a rifle standing, or are they relegated to sitting, prone, or handguns?

Your 6'2" and your wife is 4'11"! DAMN your going to have to by 2 guns each time you want 1 so she can shoot with you! Thats crazy. Anyways, a good .22 rifle for a 4'11" person might end up being a costly one. For it to be light weight and shorter would end up running you some bucks.

Astig Boy
09-09-2008, 11:30 PM
Hi all,

New to the hobby -- got my 10/22 going at the range this weekend, really enjoyed it, and with the cheap ammo, I shot for hours for almost nothing. I wanted to also get my wife off to the range with me, but we realized that at 4'11", even the very light and fairly compact 10/22 (with synthetic stock) was too big for her to hold and shoot comforably. I'm 6'2", so if anything, the 10/22 was a little short, and probably needs a little bit of a slip-on butt extender, but that's another story.

Anyways, was curious here if anyone else had this problem, and can short women shoot a rifle standing, or are they relegated to sitting, prone, or handguns?

They say Bonnie Parker was 4'10". And she was able to weld and shoot a Browning BAR in full-auto...something most men these days cant even do. :whistling:

Gnome
09-09-2008, 11:52 PM
I find it hard to believe that your wife is having trouble with a Ruger 10/22. They're not that big to begin with. Most children your wife's height shoot them with ease.

Matbe it's just her grip/stance that needs some work. Don't give up on the rifle just yet. Let her get used to it.

valleyguy
09-10-2008, 5:59 AM
Yeah, def. her stance leaves something to be desired, plus her just being intimidated by firearms in general. I think with that new stock I have coming, it will alleviate some of the grip concerns and get her better leverage on the 10/22.

MB260E
09-10-2008, 8:38 AM
I'm also thinking GSG-5 for my gf who is on the smaller side. She likes the feel of it, lightweight, and shooting 22's are cheap and fun :D

*The first gun she shot was a Mosin 7.62x54r, she wasn't too happy with me after that*

saki302
09-10-2008, 10:51 AM
For smaller women, try the old M1 Carbine also- it's usaully a perfect fit, and doesn't kick too hard.

-Dave

valleyguy
09-15-2008, 8:42 AM
Just an update -- ended up getting the tapco stock impacto recommended (front grip still pending but ordered) and a cheapo ncstar red-dot. It worked out great -- the only thing she had difficulty with was operating the bolt on the 10/22 (her hands weren't big enough to properly pull it back and lock it back at the same time easily) and the default mag release, but other than that, a pleasant experience, and she got her first shooting tutorial under her belt. Ncstar Red dot worked great once I got it dialed in, and I've installed the auto bolt release and an extended mag release, so next time it should be much easier. The adjustable stock worked well for both of us.

Impacto, I'm probably going to grab that Walther you recommended, as she has also expressed an interest in pistol shooting.

The M1 Carbine is also on the list, due to the low recoil and affordable ammo. Once I get my FFL C&R and a few months down the road, I'll think about grabbing it from CMP.

EBR Works
09-15-2008, 9:10 AM
I'm probably going to grab that Walther you recommended, as she has also expressed an interest in pistol shooting.


She'll love it! My wife with ours:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/IMG_2663-R.jpg

ar15barrels
09-15-2008, 9:16 AM
My wife with ours:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/impactco/IMG_2663-R.jpg

What range is that?

EBR Works
09-15-2008, 9:23 AM
Ojai Valley Gun Club:

http://www.dock.net/ovgc/