PDA

View Full Version : AR-7


BroncoBob
09-05-2008, 5:26 PM
Several months ago I did a little transformation to my Henry Survival Rifle (AR-7). It just wasn't getting it the way it was when I bought the little rifle. So I started to plan my transformation to something that would be fun to shoot and be just a little tacticool. So I purchased a bull barrel with shroud, a extended charging handle, a pistol grip set up and fitted a A2 buttstock on it. Capped it all off with a nice little Tasco 22 scope. Now she is not a tack driver but she sure is fun and cheap to shoot. She also gets some stares when I pull her out at the range.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk75/223Bob/MVC-018F.jpg

Flat Broke
09-05-2008, 5:35 PM
I had been thinking about buying one of those for a backpacking rig. M6 scouts are ultra expensive these days, and the Henry gets pretty darn small. Considering the relatively low cost for an AR7, if your mods didn't cost too much it'd make for a cool range plinker.

Care to post a little more info on the mods in the way of adapting the pistol grip and stock?

Chris

BroncoBob
09-05-2008, 6:13 PM
Hey Chris, no problem the breakdown is below:

Rifle $154.00
Bull Barrel / shroud $ 84.95
Pistol grip/ steel stock $ 39.95 (tossed the steel stock)
Extended charging handle $7.00
Custom made steel adapter for A2 stock $50.00 (copied alumimum unit and had a local fab shop make it out of steel and welded on 1 castle nut)
2-castle nuts $14.00
Tasco scope $25.00
Weaver scope rings with bases $20.00
A2 stock left over from other build $ 0.00
Total $354.90

Purchase the bull Barrel, Pistol grip and charging handle from AR-7 Customized Asscessories LLC. I provided the link for you.
The castle nuts I believe I got from Bushmaster.
Scope, rings and bases I got local.

Hope this helps.

Bob

http://ar7.imoutdoorshosting.com/store/

Saigon1965
09-05-2008, 6:16 PM
I like it - But, it takes away from what the Henry was inteded to be - Lightweight survival -

devildog999
09-05-2008, 8:07 PM
Very cool :cool2:

Is it legal? It now has a pistol grip. I personally don't have a clue as to whether it is or not but now that it "resembles" an ar15 only chambered in .22, I would be curious.

Saigon1965
09-05-2008, 8:09 PM
Legal because it's a .22 -

devildog999
09-05-2008, 8:10 PM
Ahhh, fair enough. I didn't think the caliber mattered as it does now have an "evil feature".

BroncoBob
09-05-2008, 8:29 PM
You know one thing I didn't mention was that if it gets dirty or dropped I don't freak out like I would with my Spikes.

Flat Broke
09-05-2008, 9:25 PM
Ahhh, fair enough. I didn't think the caliber mattered as it does now have an "evil feature".

Caliber doesn't matter except .50BMG. The reason it is legal is because it isn't a centerfire cartridge. Rimfire stuff isn't subject to the same nonsense that the centerfire stuff is.

Bronco Bob,

Thanks for the link and breakdown. If you don't mind me asking where'd you pick up the rifle for $154? I was looking at grabbing one of these and a mossberg 500 the next time I make a firearms purchase. At $154, I could buy one to keep in the pack, and another to monkey around with.

Chris

BroncoBob
09-05-2008, 9:40 PM
Caliber doesn't matter except .50BMG. The reason it is legal is because it isn't a centerfire cartridge. Rimfire stuff isn't subject to the same nonsense that the centerfire stuff is.

Bronco Bob,

Thanks for the link and breakdown. If you don't mind me asking where'd you pick up the rifle for $154? I was looking at grabbing one of these and a mossberg 500 the next time I make a firearms purchase. At $154, I could buy one to keep in the pack, and another to monkey around with.

Chris

Hey Chris, You're welcome. I bought the rifle through Davidsons online about a year and half ago. They had a sale going on so I couldn't pass it up. I just checked and now they running around $185.00 before dros and tax. Link to Davidsons gallery of guns is below. I have used Davidsons several times for my firearm purchases. Don't know if you have used them, it is a easy system. you pick the gun you want put in your zip code and they give you three FFL's in your area with their prices and you pick which one you want to buy from. Put a little down payment on it with your order and pick it up at the FFL you picked and pay the balance.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/Genie/default.aspx

AJAX22
09-05-2008, 9:50 PM
If you wanted to whip up a second stock adapter I'd be interested in getting one.. I have a number of AR7's and I wouldn't mind converting one of them to that configuration.

devildog999
09-05-2008, 10:28 PM
Caliber doesn't matter except .50BMG. The reason it is legal is because it isn't a centerfire cartridge. Rimfire stuff isn't subject to the same nonsense that the centerfire stuff is.

Bronco Bob,

Thanks for the link and breakdown. If you don't mind me asking where'd you pick up the rifle for $154? I was looking at grabbing one of these and a mossberg 500 the next time I make a firearms purchase. At $154, I could buy one to keep in the pack, and another to monkey around with.

Chris


Yeah, forgot about it being a rim fire

BroncoBob
09-05-2008, 10:34 PM
If you wanted to whip up a second stock adapter I'd be interested in getting one.. I have a number of AR7's and I wouldn't mind converting one of them to that configuration.

Ajax PM me and we'll work out the details for the adapter. It was a pretty simple process the pistol grip and buttstock come with an adapter that is made out of alumimum. (kept mine) I just had it copied in steel and had the castle nut welded on. You then screw on the buffer tube to the castle nut and lock it down.

bohoki
09-05-2008, 10:35 PM
neat you can even store a couple magazines in the buttstock

MRpink
09-05-2008, 11:01 PM
Here's my friends AR-7, beautiful rifle.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/MRpilot/bansar7.jpg

I've been looking for an affordable .22 that I can pretty much carry in my backpack and the AR-7 seems perfect, I hear it has some problems, but I've found some easy fixes. Too bad they stop making the M6, that's a fun rifle to shoot.

BroncoBob
09-05-2008, 11:05 PM
Here's my friends AR-7, beautiful rifle.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/MRpilot/bansar7.jpg

I've been looking for an affordable .22 that I can pretty much carry in my backpack and the AR-7 seems perfect, I hear it has some problems, but I've found some easy fixes. Too bad they stop making the M6, that's a fun rifle to shoot.

That is one fricken nice AR7 you have. That is no stock barrel from what I can tell. I know mine has some issues with jamming every now and then.

BroncoBob
09-05-2008, 11:06 PM
neat you can even store a couple magazines in the buttstock

Yep you can hear them rattle around in the AR2 stock.

Flat Broke
09-05-2008, 11:12 PM
How frequent are the jams. Do they seem to be ammo specific, or after sustained fire etc? Can you pinpoint it down to a specific cause or circumstance? A survival rifle that doesn't go bang (or pop in this case ;) ) is somewhat disconcerting.

Asside from that, how bout a collapsible m4 type stock with pistol grip. Though the thing would no longer be self contained, it would still be compact enough to take on prolonged outtings.

Chris

BroncoBob
09-05-2008, 11:27 PM
How frequent are the jams. Do they seem to be ammo specific, or after sustained fire etc? Can you pinpoint it down to a specific cause or circumstance? A survival rifle that doesn't go bang (or pop in this case ;) ) is somewhat disconcerting.

Asside from that, how bout a collapsible m4 type stock with pistol grip. Though the thing would no longer be self contained, it would still be compact enough to take on prolonged outtings.

Chris

Chris, I was using several different loads during my jams, I haven't determined what was the root cause. Could be the mags, the ammo, the dirt, really wasn't an issue since we were just out plinking with it. Try to remember you're not going to use this rifle to fend off a bear. It is designed for small game, hence the name survival. I have a collapsible stock for it, I just don't like with that stock on it. I picked up a couple stocks real cheap from Tapco I believe without the buffer tubes. Had to order the buffer tube seperately.

MRpink
09-06-2008, 12:22 AM
How frequent are the jams. Do they seem to be ammo specific, or after sustained fire etc? Can you pinpoint it down to a specific cause or circumstance? A survival rifle that doesn't go bang (or pop in this case ;) ) is somewhat disconcerting.

Chris

I'm going to try this when I get my AR-7.

"The chamber needs a very slight chamfer on the receiving end so the bullet does not hang up while being fed from the magazine on the sharp corner. I used a .30 FMJ bullet dipped in lapping compound and slowly and gently twisted it on the chamber, slowly and a little at a time. I would work the chamfer job then reassemble the rifle and go in the back and test fire a full magazine, 8 rounds, in my fire barrel. I repeated this process until the rifle did not jam any more EXTREME care must be taken not to chamfer too much, you will wreck the accuracy if you do. It works now and never jams and the accuracy was not effected."

Flat Broke
09-06-2008, 1:31 AM
Thanks for the heads up.

Chris

bohoki
09-06-2008, 1:03 PM
How frequent are the jams. Do they seem to be ammo specific, or after sustained fire etc? Can you pinpoint it down to a specific cause or circumstance? A survival rifle that doesn't go bang (or pop in this case ;) ) is somewhat disconcerting.

Asside from that, how bout a collapsible m4 type stock with pistol grip. Though the thing would no longer be self contained, it would still be compact enough to take on prolonged outtings.

Chris

my ar-7 prefers remington thunderbolt (strangely i cannot find it anymore) i remember it going on sale for $8 a brick in the 90s

Xerxes
09-06-2008, 5:28 PM
Caliber doesn't matter except .50BMG. The reason it is legal is because it isn't a centerfire cartridge. Rimfire stuff isn't subject to the same nonsense that the centerfire stuff is.

Bronco Bob,

Chris

Not true.

Rimfire is subject to the same nonsense if it is a threaded barrel on a rimfire pistol.

I know because I had to register my Vietnam war era Colt Woodsman, due to the threaded barrel, just like all my other AW's

The nonsense is in the confusing and hard to understand laws that makes it rife for LE abuse and harassment.


As for jamming,

The AR-7's are known as jammomatics.

They are very magazine sensitive.

As mentioned before the installation of M-4 type feed ramp chamfer helps a lot. Feeding 22 rounds that are not crimped as hard (bullet is more easily tilted in the cartridge when pushed sideways) or more softer/thinner brass case that dents easier also seems to have some correllation.

The other famous mod for jamming problems is filing very lightly on the bottom of the firing pin to tak the corner off of it to help it retract when chambering another round.

Biggest problem on mine is carbon fouling on the firing pin/bolt area which apparently causes problems with creating enough friction to keep the firing pin from retracting during feeding. Shooting less fouling ammo (read more expensive) means you can shoot longer between cleaning but eventually you do have to clean. When I shoot the cheapest stuff I can do maybe 200-250 rounds till I have to clean this area as it starts to occasionally jam. My Marlin 70 is exactly the same way in this regard.

Another big problem is the plastic barrel models (that have a steel sleeve) as they dent easily then cause a high friction area for those occasion rounds that want to nose dive a bit then get stuck and bend as the bolt slams on them.

Usually keeping this thing clean, ditching the plastic barrel, doing the two mods mentioned above, and finding magazines that are friendly with your rifle will lead to a reliable rifle even for the most problematic AR-7.

Here are some AR-7 Links for your reading pleasure
http://72deuce.blogspot.com/2005/11/ar-7-assembly-disassembly-without.html
http://guns.wolfcrews.com/ar7/default.htm
http://ar7.imoutdoorshosting.com/store/page89.html
http://www.henryrepeating.com/h002_survival.cfm
http://www.majesticarms.com/id13.html

GOOD LUCK!

BroncoBob
09-07-2008, 10:11 AM
Not true.

Rimfire is subject to the same nonsense if it is a threaded barrel on a rimfire pistol.

I know because I had to register my Vietnam war era Colt Woodsman, due to the threaded barrel, just like all my other AW's

The nonsense is in the confusing and hard to understand laws that makes it rife for LE abuse and harassment.


As for jamming,

The AR-7's are known as jammomatics.

They are very magazine sensitive.

As mentioned before the installation of M-4 type feed ramp chamfer helps a lot. Feeding 22 rounds that are not crimped as hard (bullet is more easily tilted in the cartridge when pushed sideways) or more softer/thinner brass case that dents easier also seems to have some correllation.

The other famous mod for jamming problems is filing very lightly on the bottom of the firing pin to tak the corner off of it to help it retract when chambering another round.

Biggest problem on mine is carbon fouling on the firing pin/bolt area which apparently causes problems with creating enough friction to keep the firing pin from retracting during feeding. Shooting less fouling ammo (read more expensive) means you can shoot longer between cleaning but eventually you do have to clean. When I shoot the cheapest stuff I can do maybe 200-250 rounds till I have to clean this area as it starts to occasionally jam. My Marlin 70 is exactly the same way in this regard.

Another big problem is the plastic barrel models (that have a steel sleeve) as they dent easily then cause a high friction area for those occasion rounds that want to nose dive a bit then get stuck and bend as the bolt slams on them.

Usually keeping this thing clean, ditching the plastic barrel, doing the two mods mentioned above, and finding magazines that are friendly with your rifle will lead to a reliable rifle even for the most problematic AR-7.

Here are some AR-7 Links for your reading pleasure
http://72deuce.blogspot.com/2005/11/ar-7-assembly-disassembly-without.html
http://guns.wolfcrews.com/ar7/default.htm
http://ar7.imoutdoorshosting.com/store/page89.html
http://www.henryrepeating.com/h002_survival.cfm
http://www.majesticarms.com/id13.html

GOOD LUCK!

You can't confuse a rimfire rifle with a rimfire pistol. Pistols will fall under different laws. Since your Colt Woodsman had a threaded barrel threw it into the same classification as other defined AW pistols.

bigthaiboy
09-07-2008, 1:52 PM
Hi BroncoBob,

How are those bull barrels from AR-7 Custom Accessories LLC for accuracy and reliable feeding?

I want to swap the polymer covered Henry barrel for something a bit heavier duty.

BroncoBob
09-07-2008, 4:56 PM
Hi BroncoBob,

How are those bull barrels from AR-7 Custom Accessories LLC for accuracy and reliable feeding?

I want to swap the polymer covered Henry barrel for something a bit heavier duty.

The bull barrels are alot better then the steel lined plastic barrels. You can't compare it other 22lr. Accuracy is acceptable, not a tack driver. 1.5" average moa at 50yd. Feeding is subject to the ramp, mag and ammo. On my rifle I would say I get about 1 jam in 50 rounds. I have not spent a lot of range time with the rifle to determine what ammo works best in it.
I think the $84.95 for the bull barrel and shroud is well worth the investment. Since the bull barrel is steel and the shroud is alumimum it does add some weight to the rifle which does help some in the accuracy. If I was going back packing and wanted to bring a rifle along for a little protection I would change all my eye candy parts out for the orginal buttstock and lightweight steel lined plastic barrel. Hope this information helps.

Bobula
09-07-2008, 5:04 PM
Here's my friends AR-7, beautiful rifle.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/MRpilot/bansar7.jpg

I've been looking for an affordable .22 that I can pretty much carry in my backpack and the AR-7 seems perfect, I hear it has some problems, but I've found some easy fixes. Too bad they stop making the M6, that's a fun rifle to shoot.


Please ask your friend where he got that barrel, I love it!

BroncoBob
09-07-2008, 5:51 PM
Ajax22: Here are photos of the adapter plate. There are 3 shots of the alumimum one that comes with the pistol grip and steel buttstock you can purchase at Customized AR7 Industries. The 3 shots is of my custom fabricated adapter with the castle nut welded on as it is on my rifle.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk75/223Bob/MVC-043F.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk75/223Bob/MVC-042F.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk75/223Bob/MVC-041F.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk75/223Bob/MVC-040F-1.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk75/223Bob/MVC-044F.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk75/223Bob/MVC-046F.jpg

bigthaiboy
09-08-2008, 4:02 AM
The bull barrels are alot better then the steel lined plastic barrels. You can't compare it other 22lr. Accuracy is acceptable, not a tack driver. 1.5" average moa at 50yd. Feeding is subject to the ramp, mag and ammo. On my rifle I would say I get about 1 jam in 50 rounds. I have not spent a lot of range time with the rifle to determine what ammo works best in it.
I think the $84.95 for the bull barrel and shroud is well worth the investment. Since the bull barrel is steel and the shroud is alumimum it does add some weight to the rifle which does help some in the accuracy. If I was going back packing and wanted to bring a rifle along for a little protection I would change all my eye candy parts out for the orginal buttstock and lightweight steel lined plastic barrel. Hope this information helps.

Thanks for the barrel info. You certainly have better reliability than mine, so I think I'll be ordering a steel barrel to try out. I already have the shroud and PG skeleton stock.

eltee
09-08-2008, 10:38 AM
Good source for reliable mags? I see that some of the links in this thread show dealers who have mags for sale, but I'm unfamiliar with which mags work and which don't. I have an 80's vintage Charter Arms AR7 that was a safe queen, and now I'd like to start using it again. I only have the mag that came with it.

Are the receivers supposed to be able to be fitted into the stock WITH a mag in place? Mine starts to bind up 1/2 way in and I didn't want to force anything, especially if it wasn't meant to store the receiver with a mag in place.

bohoki
09-08-2008, 6:10 PM
Good source for reliable mags? I see that some of the links in this thread show dealers who have mags for sale, but I'm unfamiliar with which mags work and which don't. I have an 80's vintage Charter Arms AR7 that was a safe queen, and now I'd like to start using it again. I only have the mag that came with it.

Are the receivers supposed to be able to be fitted into the stock WITH a mag in place? Mine starts to bind up 1/2 way in and I didn't want to force anything, especially if it wasn't meant to store the receiver with a mag in place.


only the new henrys fit a reciever with the mag in place

it was meant to have the little mag in the little rectangle hole

GuyW
09-08-2008, 6:41 PM
Jammomatic? My early '70s Charter Arms AR-7 runs like a freakin' sewing machine, with the original mag, a 15 rd steel aftermarket mag, and a 25-rd plastic mag. I started each of my kids on it (actually a bad idea, 'cause they tend to squeeze off lots of rounds rather than focus on the sights...)

...whats a plastic barrel? Mine is steel-lined aluminum...

BroncoBob
09-08-2008, 6:48 PM
All the new Henry's have a steel lined plastic barrel. They are not very accurate at all, that's why it sits up in the cabinet and my steel bull barrel is on my rifle. Next weekend I'm going to brush off the dust off my AR7 and hope to do some more range time with it.

Flat Broke
09-08-2008, 10:28 PM
Has anyone tried to see if the bull barrel without the shroud will fit in the stock?

Chris

BroncoBob
09-09-2008, 7:25 AM
Has anyone tried to see if the bull barrel without the shroud will fit in the stock?

Chris

I'll try it tonight when I get home, but I don't have high hopes for it as I think the cavity in the stock for the barrel is tapered.

AJAX22
09-09-2008, 7:47 AM
Has anyone tried to see if the bull barrel without the shroud will fit in the stock?

Chris

The standard profile steel barrel using a regular barrel nut will fit in the stock, the bull barrel with shroud will not work.

mags are a bit of a persistant problem with ar7's, but more often the problem is that the barrels do not have enough of a ramp for feeding.

MRpink
09-09-2008, 12:23 PM
Please ask your friend where he got that barrel, I love it!

He said it's a custom barrel from majestic arms. :chris:

BroncoBob
09-09-2008, 9:34 PM
Ajax22 has let me know that there might be a market out there for the A2 Adapter I have designed and is on my rifle. I would very much would like to know just how much of a market if I can get the price down to around $20.00without the buffer tube? Sure would like some imput from my fellow calgunners.

bigthaiboy
09-10-2008, 1:32 AM
$20 would represent really good value. I would definitely be interested. I have a desert tan A2 butstock and pistol grip, laying around I could drum into service then.

BroncoBob
09-11-2008, 7:38 AM
Thanks for the barrel info. You certainly have better reliability than mine, so I think I'll be ordering a steel barrel to try out. I already have the shroud and PG skeleton stock.

I sure would be interested in seeing your rifle specially with the PG skeleton stock on it.

bigthaiboy
09-11-2008, 6:07 PM
Here it is. I wished I'd bought the collapsable stock at the time, but I didn't know how short that would make the rifle.

13098

BroncoBob
09-11-2008, 6:17 PM
That is the exact buttstock I have sitting up in the cabinet. You also have the same barrel shroud. I wasn't aware that buttstock is called PG skeleton. I also have the adjustable one. The bull barrel will slip right inside your shroud.

bigthaiboy
09-11-2008, 7:02 PM
Sorry for the confusion for calling it a Pistol Grip Skeleton stock. I just described it as I saw it.

Looks like I'll go back to AR7.com and get the bull barrel, since I now have a small red dot site mounted on the Henry, so I'm not really using the iron sights. Just waiting for one of your A2 stock adapters. Have you had much interest in it so far?

SVT-40
09-11-2008, 8:39 PM
Here are a few photos of another AR-7 variant. It's an Israeli Pilot's survival rifle. Basically it's a combination of original AR-7 parts with a Israeli made collapsible stock and a Israeli FAL pistol grip. There is also a provision to store two additional mags in the butt stock. and the grip has a special hollow to hold spare .22 ammo. It also has a rubber cap on the pistol grip to contain the ammo.

The Israeli's originally scrubbed the receiver of markings. Later Briklee Trading Co. had to re-mark the guns.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/ar7isr01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/DSC04608-01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/DSC04613-01.jpg

Gunaria
09-11-2008, 8:49 PM
Here are a few photos of another AR-7 variant. It's an Israeli Pilot's survival rifle. Basically it's a combination of original AR-7 parts with a Israeli made collapsible stock and a Israeli FAL pistol grip. There is also a provision to store two additional mags in the butt stock. and the grip has a special hollow to hold spare .22 ammo. It also has a rubber cap on the pistol grip to contain the ammo.

The Israeli's originally scrubbed the receiver of markings. Later Briklee Trading Co. had to re-mark the guns.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/ar7isr01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/DSC04608-01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/DSC04613-01.jpg


Is that one your's?

Xerxes
09-11-2008, 9:28 PM
Here are a few photos of another AR-7 variant. It's an Israeli Pilot's survival rifle. Basically it's a combination of original AR-7 parts with a Israeli made collapsible stock and a Israeli FAL pistol grip. There is also a provision to store two additional mags in the butt stock. and the grip has a special hollow to hold spare .22 ammo. It also has a rubber cap on the pistol grip to contain the ammo.

The Israeli's originally scrubbed the receiver of markings. Later Briklee Trading Co. had to re-mark the guns.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/ar7isr01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/DSC04608-01.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/DSC04613-01.jpg


Care to sell it?

I kick myself for not buying those kits many years ago when they were sold in SGN.. They sold for just over $100 and I could buy the Mitchell kit for $39 so I went that route.

Now you can not even find the Israeli kit and the cheap plastic mitchel kiet sells for like $120-$180 on gunbroker.

bigthaiboy
09-12-2008, 2:47 AM
What's a mitchell kit?

I recent saw a Charter Arms AR-7 fitted into a M1 Carbine stock conversion on GB sell for $150. It looked really cool. Anyone else ever see those?

AJAX22
09-12-2008, 6:42 AM
mitchel kits cost about $150 nowadays (if you can find them)

The finest that compton had to offer ;)


I have a mitchell stock on one of my ar7's but haven't found a barrel nut yet..


I had a full stock set once upon a time but I sold it (for way to cheap) because I wanted to get rid of the henry arms rifle I had it fitted to.

Xerxes
09-12-2008, 11:06 PM
What's a mitchell kit?



http://prod.bsis.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/32/32320/folders/98454/665504AR-7PICS001.jpg

http://prod.bsis.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/32/32320/folders/98454/665501AR-7PICS003.jpg

They are occasionally found on GB
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=103054058


I am not a fan of the 1919A4 type barrel shroudl though and think it looks cleaner with just the original barrel.

GuyW
09-12-2008, 11:28 PM
Here are a few photos of another AR-7 variant. It's an Israeli Pilot's survival rifle. Basically it's a combination of original AR-7 parts with a Israeli made collapsible stock and a Israeli FAL pistol grip.


Now THAT's a cool mod of an AR-7....

SVT-40
09-13-2008, 12:19 AM
Is that one your's?


yes it's mine. I've owned it since 1996. I had two of them, but I traded one off sometime ago. Somewhere I have an additional set of mags with their original sheet metal clamp.

I like the Israeli stuff, so when I saw this I had to buy it. The whole thing is pretty ingenious. Melding original AR-7 stuff with the Israeli made stock and detachable grip. I really like how they put a Israeli K98 front sight protector on it also.

I also still have the "safety & Instruction Manual" that came with it.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Misc%20Stuff/doc018.jpg

SVT-40
09-13-2008, 12:35 AM
Care to sell it?

I kick myself for not buying those kits many years ago when they were sold in SGN.. They sold for just over $100 and I could buy the Mitchell kit for $39 so I went that route.

Now you can not even find the Israeli kit and the cheap plastic mitchel kiet sells for like $120-$180 on gunbroker.

No, I'm not interested in selling this one, but thanks for the offer. I don't know if these were ever "sold as kits". The only ones I ever saw were at Briklee and they were complete rifles. Briklee was the sole importer. As I remember

they had less than 200 total rifles.

I also found one of Briklee's sales fliers showing the Israeli AR-7 type rifles. I got the two I purchased for $149 each. (they were on sale)

Ah yes. Those were the good old days!!!

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/SVT-40/Misc%20Stuff/doc019.jpg