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LDBennett
09-01-2008, 8:21 PM
A couple of questions:

1) Anyone got the CA legal version of this gun and if so what do you think of it?

2) What is different on the CA legal gun compared to the standard model?

3) Who is the dealer at the Costa Mesa gun show selling this gun? I thought it was Coldwater Guns in Highland (???). My memory is weak in this area so I really don't know. Anyone know for sure?

Thanks,
LDBennett

anothergunnut
09-01-2008, 8:38 PM
1) They do not sell a "CA legal" model. Add a bullet button to the standard model and you are good to go.
2) See 1
3) Don't know but any dealer who handles OLL should be able to help you with a ptr. It can be shipped disassembled or with bullet button installed. Lanworld sells them and can probably point you to a local dealer.

Frijolito1988
09-01-2008, 9:06 PM
ammo bros has some in stock, but i think your closer to cold war shooters , check them out

radd
09-02-2008, 3:12 PM
CA legal PTR means:

If you wish to keep the pistol grip, then you must have fixed magazine with no more than 10rd capacity. You can have all evil features such as retractable / folding stock, flash hider and forward grip.

If you go with None-Pistol Grip build, then you can have removeable mag and pre-ban mag is also allow provided you got your mags before 2000. But you Can NOT have any evil features on this build, such as flasher hider, forward grip or retractable / folding stock.

However, your rifle must have at leat 16" barrel and overal rifle length must be 30" or greater.

Radd

Sam Hainn
09-02-2008, 3:20 PM
CA legal PTR means:

If you wish to keep the pistol grip, then you must have fixed magazine with no more than 10rd capacity. You can have all evil features such as retractable / folding stock, flash hider and forward grip.

If you go with None-Pistol Grip build, then you can have removeable mag and pre-ban mag is also allow provided you got your mags before 2000. But you Can NOT have any evil features on this build, such as flasher hider, forward grip or retractable / folding stock.

However, your rifle must have at leat 16" barrel and overal rifle length must be 30" or greater.

Radd


have fixed magazine with no more than 10rd capacity (with the bullet button.) This should be bolded. I've seen people using 20 rounders on ARs lately with the BB & they aren't 20/10's / 20's fixed/riveted to 10. I wnet no grip on my PTR91 to use my mags I've had since the 80's. truth is I didn't want to worry over which mags I was using.

PIRATE14
09-02-2008, 3:24 PM
A couple of questions:

1) Anyone got the CA legal version of this gun and if so what do you think of it?

2) What is different on the CA legal gun compared to the standard model?

3) Who is the dealer at the Costa Mesa gun show selling this gun? I thought it was Coldwater Guns in Highland (???). My memory is weak in this area so I really don't know. Anyone know for sure?

Thanks,
LDBennett

COLD WAR SHOOTERS....
7750 Palm Ave STE G
HIGHLAND CA 92346
9094251300

We have a few on hand..........:chris:

LDBennett
09-02-2008, 3:37 PM
Some further research revealed the Costa Mesa Gun Show dealer selling a CA legal version is probably Coldwar Shooters. I think they are set up with the bullet mag button and a 10 round magazine for CA, which is exactly what I want.

Now I have to determine if I want to wait for the gun show in November or order it over the internet. We are buying two, so the hope is in a face to face we can get better pricing (????).

LDBennett

BLACK LION
09-02-2008, 4:21 PM
Some further research revealed the Costa Mesa Gun Show dealer selling a CA legal version is probably Coldwar Shooters. I think they are set up with the bullet mag button and a 10 round magazine for CA, which is exactly what I want.

Now I have to determine if I want to wait for the gun show in November or order it over the internet. We are buying two, so the hope is in a face to face we can get better pricing (????).

LDBennett
it was COLD WAR SHOOTERS.....

go to CWS in highland.... there are 2 on the wall now... one is bone stock for around 1100.00 and the other has a collapsible stock and a different handguard so it is around 1500.00 or so.....
they are ready to go...magloc and all

marc4
10-01-2008, 6:54 PM
Some further research revealed the Costa Mesa Gun Show dealer selling a CA legal version is probably Coldwar Shooters. I think they are set up with the bullet mag button and a 10 round magazine for CA, which is exactly what I want.

Now I have to determine if I want to wait for the gun show in November or order it over the internet. We are buying two, so the hope is in a face to face we can get better pricing (????).

LDBennett

There's a show on Oct 11-12 in Ontario. CWS might be there. Give them a call then you can pick up in Costa Mesa.

ohsmily
10-01-2008, 7:27 PM
Some further research revealed the Costa Mesa Gun Show dealer selling a CA legal version is probably Coldwar Shooters.

Gee what tipped you off? Was it the fact that Cold War Shooters posted just above you in this thread identifying itself as the dealer at the show in question?

socomIInato
10-01-2008, 9:30 PM
no one answered question # 1!

HUTCH 7.62
10-01-2008, 9:32 PM
Love mine, but loading it through the ejection port is a pain. someday I'll probaly loose the tips of index and middle finger. The bolt must have 20 lbs of spring pressure behind it.

radd
10-01-2008, 9:44 PM
Love mine, but loading it through the ejection port is a pain. someday I'll probaly loose the tips of index and middle finger. The bolt must have 20 lbs of spring pressure behind it.

Please quit torturing yourself..........:confused:

http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/label%20ptr/BDE-003_revised.jpg

http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/sendable/6-Bullet-Button-1.jpg

http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/sendable/8-Bullet-Button-3.jpg

draconianruler
10-01-2008, 10:54 PM
Who sells 10rd mags?

darkest2000
10-01-2008, 11:43 PM
JLD(maker of PTR91) has em: http://www.ptr91.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=142

Who sells 10rd mags?

draconianruler
10-02-2008, 1:38 AM
JLD(maker of PTR91) has em: http://www.ptr91.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=142

Wow, they are expensive. It would be worth it if it was steel, not the aluminum.

radd
10-02-2008, 3:31 AM
Wow, they are expensive. It would be worth it if it was steel, not the aluminum.

Steel mags are too tight for the PTR Receivers.

Aluminum mags fits much better.

Radd

radd
10-02-2008, 3:49 AM
Who sells 10rd mags?

You can also buy the magazine kit and cut them up yourself.

Just remember measure twice cut once. I recommend not cutting the springs.

or

Coldwar Shooter in Highland, CA got some 10/20 or 10/10 aluminum mags.

I think Ammo Brothers in Cerritos, CA got some too.

$35 is really not too much since there are not a lot of factory made 10rd mags to begin with. Most likely any 10rd G3 mags are custom made. I think the only 10rd factory HK G3 type of mags that exist are for the PSG-1. But I don't think you can get one at all for 35.00, expect to pay more for that magazine.

Radd

marxdspot
10-02-2008, 4:13 AM
Radd,

I'm sending you a PM regarding my PTR-91 and a Radd lock that I've purchased.

nikonuser
10-02-2008, 7:14 AM
I got my PTR91 from Chris at Lanworldinc.com. He can sell you H&K pinned 10/20 mags. I love my PTR91 with the Raddlock.

savageevo
10-02-2008, 7:40 AM
If you really need to try it out go to the belt fed shoot this weekend in lyel creek shooting range. I am sure someone there will let you fire theres.

rorschach
10-02-2008, 12:53 PM
I have a few aluminum 10/20s left that I modded and was selling a few years ago.

a1fabweld
10-02-2008, 4:45 PM
The PTR-91 is awesome! I bought a 16" carbine earlier this year & I liked it so much more than my FAL, M1A, & AR-10 .308's, I bought another one except in the 18" original style & outfitted both rifles with wide HK handguards. Mine functions 100% flawlessly. I think everyone should have one!:)

draconianruler
10-02-2008, 9:07 PM
Steel mags are too tight for the PTR Receivers.

Aluminum mags fits much better.

Radd

I don't have issues with my steel mags on my PTR91. It could be that my PTR91 is one of the first ones JLD made. I have had issues with the aluminum mags getting bent in my gun case and causing feeding problems :(

rorschach
10-02-2008, 10:10 PM
+1

I prefer the Rhienmetal steel mags, heavy as they are.

HUTCH 7.62
10-05-2008, 1:40 PM
Please quit torturing yourself..........:confused:

http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/label%20ptr/BDE-003_revised.jpg

http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/sendable/6-Bullet-Button-1.jpg

http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/sendable/8-Bullet-Button-3.jpg

Love ur high doaller ten round mag.

HUTCH 7.62
10-05-2008, 1:52 PM
mY PTR HAS A METROSHOT 10/20.

socomIInato
10-05-2008, 8:36 PM
original 30 rounders are the ticket. accept no compromise! HK 91

Standard
10-05-2008, 10:08 PM
I'm really digging these rifles! Are they buildable piece by piece like an AR is? I'd really like to have one but can't do the $1K+ up front cost.

radd
10-06-2008, 12:16 PM
Love ur high doaller ten round mag.

Didn't pay too much for the mags. Got them back in the late 90's from gun show. I think they were 10~15 range. Don't remember exactly. I wanted a HK91, but can't afford one on a college student budget, so got mags as starting point.

I know I did a sacrilegious thing by cutting up a perfectly legal high cap, but had to sacrifice one of the triplets to test out the first PTR Magazine Lock.:(

But now I know I can get magazine re-build kits all day long without any legal issues the surviving twin are safe from the band saw.:D

Radd

rorschach
10-06-2008, 2:23 PM
mY PTR HAS A METROSHOT 10/20.

Which I may have built.:D

I converted about 30 or 40 aluminum parts kits into 10/20's for Pat about 2 years ago.

HUTCH 7.62
10-06-2008, 7:07 PM
[QUOTE=rorschach;1591857]Which I may have built.:D

I converted about 30 or 40 aluminum parts kits into 10/20's for Pat about 2 years ago.[/QUTE

I always wondered about the legality of a rivet about 1/2 way down a mag.

superjc
06-06-2009, 10:12 AM
Wait... how do you go without a pistol grip on a 91 type rifle? I gotta see pics!