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leitung
08-24-2008, 2:59 PM
Tell me, is this Saiga 12 legal in california? http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=405
I wan't an AK, but I also want a shotgun. I think this would fill that void... But I am not sure on it's legality.

mossy
08-24-2008, 3:25 PM
needs to have a mag lock installed before it can be shipped to CA.

leitung
08-24-2008, 3:27 PM
weak.. forget it I would rather buy a benelli semi auto..

Grippy
09-03-2008, 9:14 AM
needs to have a mag lock installed before it can be shipped to CA.

Why?

bohoki
09-03-2008, 9:56 AM
couldnt it just have the piston removed?

Saigon1965
09-03-2008, 10:03 AM
FEDUP have a few for sale that's already set up -

sfwdiy
09-03-2008, 10:31 AM
needs to have a mag lock installed before it can be shipped to CA.

10 round mag, no pistol grip or flash hider. http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta/storeproduct420.aspx

Why a mag lock if it has a standard rifle stock? Am I missing something?

--Ben

gose
09-03-2008, 10:36 AM
10 round mag, no pistol grip or flash hider. http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta/storeproduct420.aspx
Why a mag lock if it has a standard rifle stock? Am I missing something?
--Ben

Shotgun + detachable magazine -> AW, no matter what stock it has.

sfwdiy
09-03-2008, 10:57 AM
Shotgun + detachable magazine -> AW, no matter what stock it has.

Oh yeah. Forgot about that part. That only applies to semi-autos though, right? Pumps are exempt?

bigthaiboy
09-04-2008, 12:49 AM
Pumps are exempt.

5150Marcelo
09-04-2008, 1:05 AM
weak.. forget it I would rather buy a benelli semi auto..

VERY smart man. I have a M1S90

xtalpimp
10-08-2008, 6:31 PM
I love my Benellis, but mag fed shotguns are kinda fun.

serkerone
10-08-2008, 6:45 PM
is there a pump action magazine fed shotgun?

elSquid
10-08-2008, 7:14 PM
is there a pump action magazine fed shotgun?

http://www.valtrousa.com/shotguns.html

-- Michael

Patriot
10-08-2008, 7:18 PM
is there a pump action magazine fed shotgun?

I think there is a discontinued and scarce Knoxx magazine modification for select pump shotguns (meaning Rem. 870 and Mossberg 500 IIRC). Some people question whether the drum mag for it violates CA AWB's prohibition against 'shotgun with a revolving cylinder'; the box mag avoids this problem altogether.

Example: http://www.impactguns.com/store/KN-06002.html

JeffM
10-08-2008, 7:27 PM
Yup, legal.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=117442

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ngvn1k.jpg

JeffM
10-08-2008, 7:28 PM
I think there is a discontinued and scarce Knoxx magazine modification for select pump shotguns (meaning Rem. 870 and Mossberg 500 IIRC). Some people question whether the drum mag for it violates CA AWB's prohibition against 'shotgun with a revolving cylinder'; the box mag avoids this problem altogether.

Example: http://www.impactguns.com/store/KN-06002.html

Drums are not "revolving cylinders". They function in a completely different way.

Patriot
10-08-2008, 7:39 PM
Drums are not "revolving cylinders". They function in a completely different way.

I did not say that they were "revolving cylinders." I made a factual statement summarizing my recollection of past Calguns threads on the subject. Given that

(a) it has been a legitimate topic of discussion in the past
(b) what seems clear to gun nuts may not be clear to a less informed LEO

I felt it was appropriate to at least mention it in passing.

JeffM
10-08-2008, 7:42 PM
I did not say that they were "revolving cylinders." I made a factual statement summarizing my recollection of past Calguns threads on the subject. Given that

(a) it has been a legitimate topic of discussion in the past
(b) what seems clear to gun nuts may not be clear to a less informed LEO

I felt it was appropriate to at least mention it in passing.

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification.

gozuki
10-11-2008, 11:50 AM
Saiga 12 and BB here:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=125704

kalieracer
10-11-2008, 5:55 PM
http://www.valtrousa.com/shotguns.html

-- Michael

Got me one of those!