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USMCM16A2
08-21-2008, 7:12 AM
Guys,



I just heard on KFI that ANOTHER illegal POS with a criminal record, that San Francisco had under its PROTECTION, has commited a stabbing whereby the victim was quote "slit open like a pig". When is the godamned insanity of Newsome and is chronies going to stop. When is there going to be enough outrage that these kind of people are going to be POLITICALLY *****slapped??????.
WTF has happened to California, these bastards seem to think that they can just IGNORE immigration laws, while the FEDs sit on their thumbs. Why must American citizens die or be injured at the hands of these illegal POS????.
Newsome and his gang need to be legally CHECKED, F#$%^&!!!!!!!!.
USMCM16A2



P.S. Before anybody thinks about pulling the race card, I am in favor of deporting ALL illegals, so before I get called a bigot, anyone that is here illegal must go.

Equalizer2
08-21-2008, 7:38 AM
Protected immigrant faces charges in stabbing

Jaxon Van Derbeken, Chronicle Staff Writer

Thursday, August 21, 2008
Eric Antonio Uc-Cahun

(08-20) 16:46 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- An immigrant suspected of being in the United States illegally - freed after being shielded from possible deportation by San Francisco officials despite committing two gang-related assaults as a juvenile - faces charges that he tried to stab a man to death last year in San Mateo County, authorities say.

The case of Eric Antonio Uc-Cahun, now 19, a native of Mexico, is the second in which a youthful offender protected from deportation in San Francisco has later been arrested for a violent crime as an adult.

The San Mateo County stabbing was especially vicious, authorities said - a top prosecutor said the victim had been "gutted, like you gut a pig."

Uc-Cahun's history of youth offenses in the city was similar to that of Edwin Ramos, a 21-year-old Salvadoran native facing triple-murder charges in connection with the slayings in June of a San Francisco man and two of his sons on an Excelsior district street.

"How many of these people are there who were the beneficiaries of this process?" asked Joseph Russoniello, the U.S. attorney for Northern California, who has been critical of the city's practice of shielding immigrants from deportation.

"This is what happens when the best intentions are misapplied," Russoniello said. "If there was any justification for this program, cases like this certainly undermine that expectation."

Both Uc-Cahun and Ramos were in San Francisco's juvenile justice system at least twice during Mayor Gavin Newsom's time in office, Ramos for an assault and an attempted robbery he committed when he was 17, Uc-Cahun in connection with assaults and other crimes for which he was arrested in 2006.

Juvenile justice officials protected both Ramos and Uc-Cahun from federal authorities under their interpretation of San Francisco's sanctuary law, which bars the city from cooperating in U.S. efforts to hunt down illegal immigrants.

However, City Attorney Dennis Herrera's office concluded last month that nothing in the law prevented San Francisco from turning over suspected youth felons to federal immigration authorities. Newsom has since ordered juvenile justice officials to provide information on felons suspected of being illegal immigrants to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency.

Since the policy change, more than 50 juvenile offenders have been referred to federal immigration officials, according to juvenile probation authorities.
No more, spokesman hopes

Nathan Ballard, a spokesman for the mayor, said Wednesday that he could not comment about any juvenile records. However, he said, "because of the mayor's change of policy, we are optimistic that tragedies like this one can be avoided in future."

Uc-Cahun's attorney in his adult case, Chris Morales, said his client left his parents in Mexico and came to the United States to live with siblings about four years ago.

Morales would not comment on whether Uc-Cahun was in this country legally, but federal authorities have placed an immigration hold on him since his arrest in the San Mateo County case, indicating that they believe he is not a legal resident.

Uc-Cahun's criminal history as a juvenile dates at least from Aug. 13, 2006, when San Francisco police reports show that he was arrested along with two other suspected gang members in the assault on a man at Dolores Park. The victim was hit in the head and threatened with a gun after the group demanded to know whether he was a gang member, according to the reports.

Uc-Cahun did not cooperate with police, refusing even to say where he lived, authorities said. The police report on the attack says Uc-Cahun was a Sureño gang member known as "Tweety" who had "numerous prior contacts" with law enforcement.

Uc-Cahun, then 17, was taken to juvenile hall and eventually was found to have committed felony assault. A San Francisco Juvenile Court placed him on probation and freed him from juvenile hall.

On Oct. 18, 2006, shortly after his release, Uc-Cahun was arrested again, this time for allegedly being part of a group that accosted a stranger on the street and ripped a chain from his neck.

He spent four months in juvenile hall before being found responsible for a single charge of felony assault. He turned 18 by the time he was freed in February 2007 and put on a year's probation.
Arrest as an adult

Uc-Cahun was still on probation May 22, 2007, when he and several other suspected gang members allegedly jumped a man waiting for a ride on the 2700 block of Bayshore Boulevard in Daly City, said Steve Wagstaffe, chief deputy district attorney for San Mateo County.

Three men approached, accused the man of being a rival gang member and started beating him with a broomstick that eventually broke, Wagstaffe said. Other members of the group stripped the man of his jacket, and Uc-Cahun allegedly used a box cutter with a 2-inch blade to slash his abdomen open in two places.

"He basically gutted him, like you gut a pig to get to the meat," Wagstaffe said. The man survived and later identified Uc-Cahun as the man with the box cutter.

Uc-Cahun was arrested in September 2007 and has been held without bail since. In March, following a preliminary hearing, a judge ordered Uc-Cahun to stand trial.

The victim, whom The Chronicle is not identifying at the request of prosecutors, testified at a preliminary hearing that, "I pulled up my shirt and I seen my guts were hanging out of my stomach.

"My friends wanted to get them back," he said, but "all I did was lay down, (and say) 'Man, take me to the hospital.' "
Suspicious letter

A month later, a still-jailed Uc-Cahun allegedly wrote a letter to a friend that provided the name and address of the victim and suggesting that the friend "take care of things," Wagstaffe said. San Francisco police executing a search warrant in May at a house suspected of being used by gang members found the letter, he said.

Uc-Cahun was charged with witness intimidation along with attempted murder, robbery and other gang-related counts.

Morales said other lawyers represented Uc-Cahun when he was a juvenile. As an adult, he said, his client appeared to be a successful participant in a San Mateo County jail education program. Authorities put him in isolation after the letter was discovered, the attorney said.

"He had redeeming qualities," Morales said. "He was doing well in custody. Now it looks like he did a stupid thing (in allegedly writing the letter) out of desperation."

Russoniello said the arrests of Uc-Cahun and Ramos raise the question of whether other juvenile offenders who were kept from deportation in San Francisco went on to become criminal suspects as adults.

"These attacks demonstrate that these people are acting with impunity because they have little to fear," Russoniello said.

Ballard said officials are conducting a "top to bottom" review of practices under the sanctuary city ordinance to make sure San Francisco is complying with federal and state laws related to immigrant felony offenders.

"These are complex questions," Ballard said. "It's not just one ordinance, it's many, many years, going back to 1985, of policies made in many ways. There's a lot of excavation to be done."

E-mail Jaxon Van Derbeken at jvanderbeken@sfchronicle.com.

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USMCM16A2
08-21-2008, 7:55 AM
Equalizer2,




Thanks for posting the article. This deleted has to stop. USMCM16A2

ivanimal
08-21-2008, 8:06 AM
Unreal, and they want to disarm the people of SF as well. Wiyh this type of Govt. who needs enemies?

MrLogan
08-21-2008, 8:45 AM
Newsom is a freaking douchebag. He needs to catch all kinds of flak for this crap. :mad:

gazzavc
08-21-2008, 8:57 AM
Real Simple soluton,

The family of the murder victim needs to sue not only Newsome , but everyone of the stupid f**ktards that insisted on the policy of juvenile protection. When people start sueing the pants off of the officials who create the problem in the first place.

Surely there must be a clever lawyer somewhere that can make something like this stick??

Gary

Pvt. Cowboy
08-21-2008, 9:27 AM
Nothing will happen. Nothing. All parties will simply wait for the furor to blow over, and it will.

From Gavin Newsom, to the Board of Supervisors, to City Attorney Dennis Herrera, to Joseph Russoniello, the U.S. attorney for Northern California. All of them together will make a brief show of nothingness and then just let the story die... until the next time something identical happens.

Whatever San Francisco's 'sanctuary city' policy is now, it's been rewritten to let the same old song and dance continue with a wink and a nod while pretending to have adopted new measures.

Californian voters simply don't care in significant numbers enough to address illegal immigration and violent felons. Even if California voters did win some victory at the ballot box by passing a Prop 187-style reform measure, some radical left wing "sensitive ponytail guy" judge at the state level will kill it, just like what happened last time. The news media will shame the California voter for having passed such a measure, also just like last time.

Theseus
08-21-2008, 9:42 AM
People don't care about anything in enough numbers anymore. . . I firmly believe that the only reason we aren't seeing significant increases to gun control is that even the million moms have more things to worry about than guns...

Stunt_Pirate
08-21-2008, 10:03 AM
I can't see a single reason why this policy would be viewed as good... Was this something that was voted on by SF?

hill billy
08-21-2008, 10:16 AM
"He had redeeming qualities," Morales said. "He was doing well in custody. Now it looks like he did a stupid thing Really? Maybe he should come live with you then, Mr. Morales.

caduckgunner
08-21-2008, 11:26 AM
Instead of prison, we need to send all our criminals to San Francisco.

dfletcher
08-21-2008, 11:39 AM
Nothing will happen until one of the nice white folks in Pacific Heights (or a similar neighborhood) is raped, stabbed or killed by someone with brown skin. The seemingly "good" white SF liberals - who attend the opera, have lawn parties and talk in theory of the plight of minorities - they really don't like them, they're merely a cause that makes them feel good. Just a veneer of morality really. It's a harsher take on "they can fix my car or mow the lawn, but stay away from my little Princess". When someone with brown skin rapes & murders little Princess (and it will happen sooner or later) then you'll see things change because the true "liberal" mindset will emerge. It's unfortunate that sort of thing would have to happen.

Wcoldnav
08-21-2008, 11:50 AM
Just wait.... If Barack Mo' Drama gets elected he will make them all honorary citizens.

Full Clip
08-21-2008, 11:58 AM
The family of the murder victim needs to sue not only Newsome , but everyone of the stupid f**ktards that insisted on the policy of juvenile protection. When people start sueing the pants off of the officials who create the problem in the first place.

+1,000,000
They will only listen if the $ penalty is high enough. I'm sorry that it would be taxpayer's money (if the city pays), but the people of S.F. deserve what they get for electing a douchebag who flaunts the law and protects criminal illegals over legit citizens or visitors.

chrisdesoup
08-21-2008, 12:04 PM
Newsome is running for gov'ner.... guess he is going to screw California just like he screwed his freinds wife.... Seems like everybody looked the other way when she got all those promotions at the same time she was bangin good 'ol Mayor newsome

M. Sage
08-21-2008, 12:44 PM
Nothing will happen until one of the nice white folks in Pacific Heights (or a similar neighborhood) is raped, stabbed or killed by someone with brown skin. The seemingly "good" white SF liberals - who attend the opera, have lawn parties and talk in theory of the plight of minorities - they really don't like them, they're merely a cause that makes them feel good. Just a veneer of morality really. It's a harsher take on "they can fix my car or mow the lawn, but stay away from my little Princess". When someone with brown skin rapes & murders little Princess (and it will happen sooner or later) then you'll see things change because the true "liberal" mindset will emerge. It's unfortunate that sort of thing would have to happen.

SF = very thin veneer of civilization. A lot of people here seem very fake to me... :(

tankerman
08-21-2008, 4:29 PM
Gavin Newsome should be charged and put on trial for assisting in murder and attempted murder.

pnkssbtz
08-21-2008, 4:35 PM
Aren't Gavin Newsome et al guilty of aiding and abetting a criminal and not accomplices after the fact?

gordoe
08-21-2008, 11:40 PM
I understand the protection for the good people who come to this country trying to make something of themselves, but gang-related crimes and things of that nature cannot go unpunished especially when they are murderers. Newsome is anti-gang, yet he's protecting these guys and then saying that the NRA would've applauded the guy who killed the man and his two kids a few months ago because he was armed, the NRA doesn't celebrate people who are criminals for being armed! He's a walking contradiction, he "fights" for the poor, but he doesn't know what poor means. If someone related to him had been killed he would've gone to the full extent of the law. Nuck Fewsome.

Sleepy1988
08-22-2008, 11:34 AM
This obviously could have been avoided if knives were banned.

Sam .223
08-22-2008, 1:53 PM
any way to get this aired out in the mainstream and make Newsomes life hell? i'd really hate to see that puke in the governors mansion.

Shotgun Man
08-22-2008, 4:54 PM
It looks like the SF policy should actually benefit the anti-immigs.

I can't imagine better fodder for the argument for excluding illegals.

Liberty1
08-28-2008, 1:20 PM
California Penal Code:

834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully
cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization
Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is
suspected of being present in the United States in violation of
federal immigration laws.
(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected
of being present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the
following:
(1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen
of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent
resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time
or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of
immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall
not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date
and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding
documentation to indicate his or her legal status.
(2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien
who is present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal
justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or
leave the United States.
(3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United
States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal
status and provide any additional information that may be requested
by any other public entity.
(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city,
county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with
jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent
or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly
prohibited.

milsurpshooter
08-28-2008, 1:41 PM
yeah well its not going to stop until we the citizens march on the city building and physically throw them out of office. our forefathers are rolling in their graves right now. inaction is the same as turning around and willing taking it in the rear.talking about it on an internet forum is not going to change a thing!!!!!!!!!!!!! REVOLT TAKE BACK THE STREETS BY FORCE IF WE HAVE TO.



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