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bwiese
08-07-2008, 4:46 PM
Looks like AB2062 and AB2235 are dead.
Let's keep things going to avoid any last-minute exceptional resurrections...


From Paul Payne of NRA, in Sacto:

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RE: AB2062 & AB2235

The Senate Appropriations Committee adjourned today after taking-up the "Suspense File" of assembly bills.

Senate staff has confirmed that this was the last Senate Appropriations Committee hearing for this legislative session. Per Senate rules, these bills (and all others failing to pass out of committee) cannot be considered for the remainder of this legislative session.

However, we should continue to keep-up-the-pressure on the legislature, so they won't be inclined to grant special "rule waivers" that would allow special reconsideration of these failed legislative attempts.

GREAT JOB! You have all performed a fantastic service for all of us, in defense of the Second Amendment.

Paul Payne

>>>>>>>>>>

bwiese
08-07-2008, 4:47 PM
whoops, looks like Paul updated the other thread with above info.

1911su16b870
08-07-2008, 4:56 PM
Thank you Paul and Bill, great news that those bills died :party:

hawk1
08-07-2008, 5:03 PM
Great news, although I sent out the NRA one click emails anyways. These rats will always try and find another way to get it passed this session.

chris
08-07-2008, 5:06 PM
thank god those useless bills are dead now shoot the bills in the head so they do not come back from the dead. and the authors should be *****ed slapped for such crappy legislation.

Josh3239
08-07-2008, 5:08 PM
Good riddance to both. 2062 was just plain criminal. What is up with California legislators and technology that doesn't exist? First Microstamping then smart guns, wtf is going on?

C.G.
08-07-2008, 5:11 PM
Good news!

AC Gould
08-07-2008, 5:12 PM
thank god those useless bills are dead now shoot the bills in the head so they do not come back from the dead. and the authors should be *****ed slapped for such crappy legislation.

A slap is temporary....make it stick!!!

Do whatever you can to keep those in support of these bills from being re-elected.

BroncoBob
08-07-2008, 5:27 PM
That is really good news.......


:party:

CCWFacts
08-07-2008, 5:41 PM
Can we find out how our reps performed on these?

MikeH1
08-07-2008, 5:47 PM
nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile!

- Hunter/Garcia

futureExpat
08-07-2008, 6:20 PM
:D:D:D:D:D

AC Gould
08-07-2008, 6:22 PM
Can we find out how our reps performed on these?



Go to the CA Legislature site and enter the bill number...Their voting is a public record.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/bilinfo.html

Mute
08-07-2008, 6:29 PM
Brewskis for everyone!

Anthonysmanifesto
08-07-2008, 6:30 PM
Can we find out how our reps performed on these?



Go to the CA Legislature site and enter the bill number...Their voting is a public record.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/bilinfo.html

be advised- "held under submission" may not be a counted vote. since no one challenged it, there will likely not be an actual vote tally.

that would be if there was an attempt to pass it.

but-it will all be posted tomorrow on www.leginfo.ca.gov

scfast
08-09-2008, 10:37 AM
WOOHOO...I was just whining about this bill to my wife on thursday wish i would have seen this...good riddance hope this does not rear it's ugly head next session..

mikehaas
08-09-2008, 10:57 AM
nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile!

- Hunter/Garcia
Not quite...
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml#oneclick

PatriotnMore
08-09-2008, 11:05 AM
I think now is the time to be proactive with our own bill that would stop any further bills restrictions to legal items in CA, such as, ammo, gun parts, commerce, and other items pertaining to guns, ammo and shipping.

ontmark
08-09-2008, 11:07 AM
Am I reading this vote right??

UNOFFICIAL BALLOT
MEASURE: AB 2062
AUTHOR: De Leon
TOPIC: Ammunition.
DATE: 08/04/2008
LOCATION: SEN. APPR.
MOTION: Placed on Appropriations Suspense file.
(AYES 14. NOES 0.) (PASS)


AYES
****

Torlakson Cox Aanestad Ashburn
Cedillo Corbett Dutton Florez
Kuehl Oropeza Ridley-Thomas Simitian
Wyland Yee


NOES
****



ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING
*********************************

Runner

Anthonysmanifesto
08-09-2008, 11:35 AM
Am I reading this vote right??

UNOFFICIAL BALLOT
MEASURE: AB 2062
AUTHOR: De Leon
TOPIC: Ammunition.
DATE: 08/04/2008
LOCATION: SEN. APPR.
MOTION: Placed on Appropriations Suspense file.
(AYES 14. NOES 0.) (PASS)


AYES
****

Torlakson Cox Aanestad Ashburn
Cedillo Corbett Dutton Florez
Kuehl Oropeza Ridley-Thomas Simitian
Wyland Yee


NOES
****



ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING
*********************************

Runner

yup- it went to suspense on a an "A" roll call- which is everyone "AYE"

unless someone asks for a full roll call, they move quickly through the file to determine what goes on suspense in the following way with the chair ( dem) and vice chair ( gop) constantly communicating.


"A" all committee members in favor
"B" dems up, reeps down
"C" reeps up, dems down

ideally , this vote is based solely on its costs to the state.

The bill finally died when it failed to be moved off of the suspense file on August 7th.

once on the suspense file( due to cost) the committee recommendations will be to Do pass, Do Pass as Amended, or HOLD.
there will likely be no vote recorded for a HOLD .If the committee recommendation was to hold the bill under submission, then in order to get a vote tally, someone would have had to challenge the recomendation to recommend one of the other options.

next week you will likely see a august 7th event under "history" (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_2051-2100/ab_2062_bill_20080804_history.html) saying something like "held under submission" or "held in committee pursuant to..."

peepshowal
08-09-2008, 5:45 PM
Looks like AB2062 and AB2235 are dead.
Let's keep things going to avoid any last-minute exceptional resurrections...


From Paul Payne of NRA, in Sacto:

---------------------------------------------------------------
RE: AB2062 & AB2235

The Senate Appropriations Committee adjourned today after taking-up the "Suspense File" of assembly bills.

Senate staff has confirmed that this was the last Senate Appropriations Committee hearing for this legislative session. Per Senate rules, these bills (and all others failing to pass out of committee) cannot be considered for the remainder of this legislative session.

However, we should continue to keep-up-the-pressure on the legislature, so they won't be inclined to grant special "rule waivers" that would allow special reconsideration of these failed legislative attempts.

GREAT JOB! You have all performed a fantastic service for all of us, in defense of the Second Amendment.

Paul Payne

>>>>>>>>>>

While we're contacting Senators to, as Bill said, avoid any last-minute exceptional resurrections, let's not forget to remind them again about stopping the Cow Palace Gun Show Ban.
Like many of you, this e-mail from the NRA-ILA was received this AM:

Gun Show Ban Legislation Heads to Senate Floor in California!
Please Contact Your State Senator Today!



As we reported, three anti-gun bills were placed in the Senate Appropriations Committee’s suspense file due to cost constraints. Fortunately, two of the three (Assembly Bill 2062 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_2051-2100/ab_2062_bill_20080219_introduced.html) and Assembly Bill 2235 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_2201-2250/ab_2235_bill_20080402_amended_asm_v98.html)) failed in yesterday’s hearing.

However, the fight is far from over. Assembly Bill 2948 (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_2901-2950/ab_2948_bill_20080222_introduced.html) was passed out of the Committee and now heads to the Senate floor. AB2948 would prohibit the sale of firearms and ammunition on the property or inside the buildings that comprise the Cow Palace. Simply put, this bill is a stepping-stone to banning all gun shows in the Golden State and it must be stopped.

Please contact your State Senator TODAY and respectfully urge him or her to oppose AB2948 when it comes before them for a vote. Contact information for your State Senator can be found here (http://www.capwiz.com/nra/state/main/?state=CA&view=myofficials).