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ooorah2111
08-05-2008, 2:07 PM
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/in...du cts_id=149

What do you guys think of this magazine? Is this magazine illegal or legal in California? The police are saying that it is a high cap magazine.

sorensen440
08-05-2008, 2:12 PM
Completely legal they hold 10 rounds or less

sorensen440
08-05-2008, 2:16 PM
The police are saying that it is a high cap magazine.

What police said this ?

CHS
08-05-2008, 2:34 PM
What police said this ?

Yeah, what he said. WHAT police are saying this?

It doesn't matter what a magazine looks like, if it holds 10 rounds and is permanent, it's legal.

sorensen440
08-05-2008, 2:50 PM
if it holds 10 rounds and is permanent, it's legal.

Where does it say it has to be permanent ?

mrjones98
08-05-2008, 2:54 PM
Where does it say it has to be permanent ?

(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any
ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10
rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it
cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.

ooorah2111
08-05-2008, 3:23 PM
The University Police Department over at San Diego state university are stating that my C-products magazine is illegal because it has the ability to accept more than 10 rounds.

I heard somewhere on this website that the C-products 10rd mag in 30rd tube is kind of in the gray area?

KDOFisch
08-05-2008, 3:28 PM
The University Police Department over at San Diego state university are stating that my C-products magazine is illegal because it has the ability to accept more than 10 rounds.

I heard somewhere on this website that the C-products 10rd mag in 30rd tube is kind of in the gray area?

Uhhhh. If there's a situation here where charges may be filed, or you may be handed over to a LEA, I would cease any further posts about this.

tgriffin
08-05-2008, 3:54 PM
(619) 297-0770

If you want this to go away, I'd suggest calling the number above and telling them Calguns sent you.

ooorah2111
08-05-2008, 4:05 PM
what is that number?

tgriffin
08-05-2008, 4:31 PM
Trutanich & Michel - best lawyers out there for firearms and guess what... thats there San Diego office number. Odds are, they make a phone call and this goes away.

ooorah2111
08-05-2008, 7:53 PM
Anybody know how much they charge? Or how they charge? By the hour or case, etc?

rayra
08-05-2008, 10:30 PM
While you are getting up to speed on the basics, if you have the time and can speak of it in general terms, just wtf are the SDSU campus police doing in your business? I mean did you do something unwise like have firearms-related materials in a dorm / campus-controlled lodging?
I'm curious just how such a matter ever came up. See if you can explain it in a way that doesn't make your situation worse, and that can help other persons avoid getting in such a totally unnecessary jam.

tenpercentfirearms
08-06-2008, 1:21 AM
If it holds more than 10 rounds, then it is illegal. If it doesn't hold more than 10 rounds, then it is not. Did the UCs actually try it out or are you receiving opinions from cops by word of mouth?

The tricky question is what is permanent? I cannot bend the tabs on this magazine. It only holds 10 rounds or less. C Products makes it at the factory to only hold ten rounds and markets it as a ten rounder. Could you possibly drill out the tabs and turn it into a more than ten rounder? Possibly. However, you can also take a 10 round Glock 26 magazine and put a magazine extension on it in less time. Does that mean that all C Products 10/30 magazines and all Glock 26 magazines are now by definition large capacity magazines because with enough tools and time you could turn it into a large capacity magazine? If so, there are a lot of Glock 26 owners out there in some trouble.

I would say until you actually go out of your way to modify it to hold more than ten rounds, it is still a ten rounder. If the cops bust you and the DA is after you, contact the Calguns Foundation and we will set you up with a lawyer and get some money heading your way.

On a side note, it always amazes me how many people contact me and ask if a certain product I sell is legal or not. WTF? No, I sell illegal products, have no idea who you are, and would love to sell it to you since you just called me over the phone. :confused:

aplinker
08-06-2008, 1:29 AM
I would agree, you need to stop posting and contact a lawyer. Say NOTHING to the police.

If it holds more than 10 rounds, then it is illegal. If it doesn't hold more than 10 rounds, then it is not. Did the UCs actually try it out or are you receiving opinions from cops by word of mouth?

The tricky question is what is permanent? I cannot bend the tabs on this magazine. It only holds 10 rounds or less. C Products makes it at the factory to only hold ten rounds and markets it as a ten rounder. Could you possibly drill out the tabs and turn it into a more than ten rounder? Possibly. However, you can also take a 10 round Glock 26 magazine and put a magazine extension on it in less time. Does that mean that all C Products 10/30 magazines and all Glock 26 magazines are now by definition large capacity magazines because with enough tools and time you could turn it into a large capacity magazine? If so, there are a lot of Glock 26 owners out there in some trouble.

I would say until you actually go out of your way to modify it to hold more than ten rounds, it is still a ten rounder. If the cops bust you and the DA is after you, contact the Calguns Foundation and we will set you up with a lawyer and get some money heading your way.

On a side note, it always amazes me how many people contact me and ask if a certain product I sell is legal or not. WTF? No, I sell illegal products, have no idea who you are, and would love to sell it to you since you just called me over the phone. :confused:

That's because it's on the same page next to the kiddie porn, illicit drugs, stampless cigarettes, anthrax, nuclear weapons and duty-free liquor. Did I cover all the bases?

CHS
08-06-2008, 8:55 AM
The University Police Department over at San Diego state university are stating that my C-products magazine is illegal because it has the ability to accept more than 10 rounds.

Possession of "High Capacity" magazines IS NOT illegal. Import/transfer/manufacturing is. But possession is not.


I heard somewhere on this website that the C-products 10rd mag in 30rd tube is kind of in the gray area?

If it holds 10 rounds or less only, it's legal. No gray area about it.

Now call that number that was posted!! NOW!

ooorah2111
08-06-2008, 10:30 AM
Um I tried dialing that number numerous times (619-297-0770) and all I'm getting is a error message. It says that number has been disconnected.

???

sorensen440
08-06-2008, 10:31 AM
San Diego Office
1081 Camino Del Rio South, Suite 208
San Diego California 92108-3601
Telephone: (619) 297-0770
Facsimile: (619) 297-0223

Los Angeles Office
180 East Ocean Boulevard
Suite 200
Long Beach, California 90802-4079
Telephone: (562) 216-4444
Facsimile: (562) 216-4445

sorensen440
08-06-2008, 10:32 AM
Um I tried dialing that number numerous times (619-297-0770) and all I'm getting is a error message. It says that number has been disconnected.

???



Dial a 1 first

ooorah2111
08-06-2008, 10:41 AM
I tried dialing a 1 and it still didn't work. I called the Los Angeles office and asked about it and the receptionist said that the number to the SD office might have been disconnected. She says that all calls go to the LA office now. The receptionist I spoke with wasn't very helpful. She said that I couldn't talk to an attorney on the phone because they are all busy. She gave me an email address that I could write to about my situation and thats it. She also told me to call back if I needed more help.

tgriffin
08-06-2008, 2:10 PM
Call back again. Yes they are all busy lawyers, but persistence will be rewarded.

Guntech
08-07-2008, 9:49 AM
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/in...du cts_id=149

What do you guys think of this magazine? Is this magazine illegal or legal in California? The police are saying that it is a high cap magazine.

You said 30 round mag in 10 round tube? Has there been some kind of break through in reducing the mass of matter? Or did you mean 10 round mag in 30 round tube?

ooorah2111
08-07-2008, 9:55 AM
Sorry I meant 10 round mag in 30 round tube.

motorhead
08-07-2008, 10:06 AM
did you actually get jacked for this? i don't want to be a d**k but if not, try getting a second opinion at sdsu from the gardeners or janitors, they're equally qualified with the cops on firearms law.

WokMaster1
08-07-2008, 10:09 AM
Sorry I meant 10 round mag in 30 round tube.

were you arrested? Ticketed or did you have your mag taken away?

ooorah2111
08-07-2008, 10:27 AM
Nope. I wasn't arrested or ticketed or charged yet. However, they did take my rifle and it is being inspected at the moment by firearm experts over at the station. It's been like 3 weeks and they said that it can take up to another 3 weeks. I have no idea what they are doing. Does it take that long to figure out if a rifle is illegal or not? Jesus christ.

scotthmt
08-07-2008, 10:33 AM
I would ****ing sue them.

sorensen440
08-07-2008, 11:19 AM
sounds like they need a call from T&M