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Dont Tread on Me
08-05-2008, 9:15 AM
You need a puke bag handy before reading further

Nov. 9 -- CA Brady Campaign Conference in Santa Monica
Brady Campaign Endorsements for CA Candidates
2nd Annual God Not Guns Sabbath, Sept. 26-28
Stephen Colbert on Heller Case
Brady Campaign Files Lawsuit in Alaska
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1. CA Chapters State Conference Nov. 9: The California Chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence will be holding their annual state conference in Santa Monica on Sunday, November 9, 2008. We invite anyone who has been thinking about getting involved with the CA Brady Campaign to attend. This is a good opportunity to meet our California activists and chapter leaders and get ideas for how you can get involved in our efforts to stop gun violence in our communities! Please reply here and let me know if you are interested: 1ofamillion@comcast.net .

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2. Brady Campaign Endorsements for CA candidates: Election Day is Tuesday, November 4. It is important that we elect candidates who will work to stop the gun violence epidemic taking place in California! Check our CA Chapters website frequently to see the latest endorsements of CA candidates: http://www.bradycampaign.org/chapters/california/ Endorsements so far include:
Assembly Member Noreen Evans for AD-07 (Napa, Solano, and Sonoma Counties)
Joan Buchanan for AD-15 (parts of Alameda, Contra Costa, Sacramento, and San Joaquin Counties)
Bonnie Lowenthal for AD-54 (parts of Los Angeles County)
Assembly Member Warren Furutani for AD-55 (parts of Los Angeles County)
Norma Torres for AD-61 (parts of Los Angeles and San Bernardino Counties)
Assembly Member Jose Solorio for AD-69 (parts of Orange County)
Mark DeSaulnier for SD-07 (parts of Contra Costa County)

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4. 2nd Annual God Not Guns Sabbath, Sept. 26-28:
The God Not Guns Coalition seeks to raise awareness of gun violence as a spiritual and moral crisis. We call on every congregation, synagogue, mosque, and gathering of people of faith to work toward a peaceable society where all children have the opportunity to grow and prosper, and where everyone can live without fear of being cut down by firearm violence.

We invite every faithful individual and faith-based group to join us as we work to prevent the tragic toll of gun violence.

We invite you to look for ways to incorporate God Not Guns activities at your local place of worship this summer and fall. Go to http://www.godnotguns.org/ for ideas and materials.

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5. Colbert on Heller: For fans of the Colbert Report comedy show see Stephen Colbert's new feature, "Trigger Happy" Enjoy! :-) http://www.comedycentral.com:80/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?episodeId=177156

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6. Brady Campaign Files Lawsuit in Alaska
BRADY CENTER TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE
For Immediate Release
Thursday, July 31, 2008

BRADY CENTER FILES SUIT
AGAINST GUN SELLER
WHO SUPPLIED JUNEAU MURDERER

Family of Juneau's First Murder Victim in Six Years
Seeks To Hold Gun Dealer Accountable For Negligence

Juneau, AK - Lawyers with the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence and Juneau attorney Mark C. Choate filed a lawsuit today on behalf of the family of Simone Young Kim, who was killed on August 4, 2006, by Jason Coday with a rifle obtained from Juneau gun dealer Rayco Sales.

The suit alleges that two days before the murder, Rayco negligently supplied Coday with the rifle, even though Coday was a fugitive from justice and a methamphetamine user, and was thus prohibited from buying or possessing guns. The suit was filed in the First Judicial District, in Juneau. At the time of the shooting, Kim's murder was the first in six years in Juneau.

Jason Coday repeatedly engaged in bizarre and criminal behavior in the weeks leading up to his murder of Simone Kim. When Coday walked into Rayco Sales on August 2, 2006, he had a garbage bag containing a sleeping bag tied around him, and he appeared to have little familiarity with guns. Nonetheless, Rayco's owner, Ray Coxe, showed Jason Coday a Ruger .22 rifle, then left him alone with the gun. Coday walked out with the gun soon after. According to Coxe, store personnel did not even notice that Coday or the rifle were missing for several minutes, when $200 was found on the store counter. What precisely happened between Coday and Coxe would have been videotaped by the store's two surveillance systems, but Coxe has claimed that while Coday was in the store both surveillance systems failed to record.

Two days later, on August 4, Coday used the rifle to shoot Simone Kim, a total stranger, four times, killing him. Simone was 26 years old, working as a painter. He leaves two sisters, a brother, and his parents, all of Anchorage.

Between June 22, 2006, and August 4, 2006, Coday had at least 18 run-ins with police throughout the West, including the Henderson, Nevada Police; the Nye County Sheriff's Office in Tonopah, Nevada; Nevada Highway Patrol in Elko, Nevada; the Lyon County Sheriff's Office in Yerington, Nevada; State Patrol in Vancouver, Washington; U.S. Customs Service Inspection Control in Blaine, Washington; and Bellingham, Washington Police. After being released to his father's custody after one arrest, Coday escaped, and made his way to Alaska. Numerous people who had even brief run-ins with Coday noticed that he was, at best, odd and distant.

"A deranged criminal like Jason Coday should not be able to walk into a gun store and simply stroll out the door with a gun," said Jonathan E. Lowy, Senior Attorney with the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. "There is no good reason why a licensed gun dealer can't take simple steps to keep guns out of the hands of criminals like Coday. We hope that this lawsuit will encourage gun dealers to act responsibly to prevent criminals from getting guns, while helping Simone Kim's family obtain some justice to compensate for their loss."

As early as 1996, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives ("ATF") recommended to federal firearms dealers that they implement certain measures to prevent gun thefts, including keeping display cases locked at all times; showing only one firearm at a time to customers; not leaving customers unattended while handling a firearm; and using electronic security stickers or wires. The lawsuit alleges that Rayco took none of these steps in its store.

"Simone Kim was loved dearly by his family and friends," said Mark C. Choate of the Law Offices of Mark C. Choate of Juneau, co-counsel in the case. "His family simply wants their day in court, to obtain some justice for this needless, preventable tragedy."

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CA Brady Chapters:
http://www.bradycampaign.org/CA

Donate:
http://www.bradycampaign.org/donate/california

Shane916
08-05-2008, 9:30 AM
lol... God Not Guns Coalition..simply wow.:rolleyes:

USN CHIEF
08-05-2008, 9:33 AM
lol... God Not Guns Coalition..simply wow.:rolleyes:

To me it sounds like they are desperate. :D

nicki
08-05-2008, 9:48 AM
Some of you might want to consider going to such an event. A few years ago I went to a Million Mom event. Strange how those events are now very rare.

There was a real difference in going to a anti gun event versus a pro gun event. The anti gunners really tried to control who got in versus gun events generally are open to the public.

If they have a question and answer, especially with politicians, it would be a great resource. Of course we would have to be careful with our questions, we want to make sure the speakers really give themselves alot of rope.

Gun groups tend to be free flowing and open. These events try to be controlled.

My opinion is you won't change any of the speakers minds because the real agenda is more than guns, it is control.

Many of the people who attend these events seek security, they have a dependence mindset. Many of them are their because of either themselves or famliy, friends being victims of crime and they want action.

They are emotionally scared, you can't reason with them.

There are many people who will show up and be well meaning, we call them pawns.

What might be worthwhile if anyone goes is if they have local chapters of the Brady Campaign. I figure that these would be great meetings to attend for follow up.

I wouldn't even hide that I'm a gun owner, I would just say I'm attending because I don't have an "issue with reasonable gun control".

Nicki

CHS
08-05-2008, 9:51 AM
1. CA Chapters State Conference Nov. 9: The California Chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence will be holding their annual state conference in Santa Monica on Sunday, November 9, 2008. We invite anyone who has been thinking about getting involved with the CA Brady Campaign to attend. This is a good opportunity to meet our California activists and chapter leaders and get ideas for how you can get involved in our efforts to stop gun violence in our communities! Please reply here and let me know if you are interested: 1ofamillion@comcast.net .


Anyone want to go, and ask leading questions? :)

"So, as a woman, what should one do if phoned with repeated threats of rape? Is it ok for her to buy a gun for self defense? What is the obligation of the cops to protect her?"

"How many lawful sales of firearms each year end up being used in crimes?"


Jason Coday repeatedly engaged in bizarre and criminal behavior in the weeks leading up to his murder of Simone Kim. When Coday walked into Rayco Sales on August 2, 2006, he had a garbage bag containing a sleeping bag tied around him, and he appeared to have little familiarity with guns. Nonetheless, Rayco's owner, Ray Coxe, showed Jason Coday a Ruger .22 rifle, then left him alone with the gun. Coday walked out with the gun soon after. According to Coxe, store personnel did not even notice that Coday or the rifle were missing for several minutes, when $200 was found on the store counter. What precisely happened between Coday and Coxe would have been videotaped by the store's two surveillance systems, but Coxe has claimed that while Coday was in the store both surveillance systems failed to record.

"A deranged criminal like Jason Coday should not be able to walk into a gun store and simply stroll out the door with a gun," said Jonathan E. Lowy, Senior Attorney with the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. "There is no good reason why a licensed gun dealer can't take simple steps to keep guns out of the hands of criminals like Coday. We hope that this lawsuit will encourage gun dealers to act responsibly to prevent criminals from getting guns, while helping Simone Kim's family obtain some justice to compensate for their loss."


I fully support and endorse this lawsuit. Hell, the NRA should join the suit and show their support as well. The store owner/employees were completely negligent and that negligence ended up with an illegal firearms transaction and a dead body.

bwiese
08-05-2008, 11:43 AM
Nicki's right.

Some folks down there should attend (and mask competence - "it's a shoulder thing that goes up", and "pistol grips that allow reloading").

Perhaps we need Calgunners working the valet parking to get attendee info, esp on LCAV types.

Ironchef
08-05-2008, 11:51 AM
So I guess an open carry rally nearby is out of the question? just kidding.

"Hi Mr Helmke, may I park your bullet proof car?"

Dont Tread on Me
08-05-2008, 8:43 PM
Some folks down there should attend (and mask competence - "it's a shoulder thing that goes up", and "pistol grips that allow reloading").


We need some practice looking like dependent types. The calgunners I've met to date all have that meat eating independent minded look to them:)

CCWFacts
08-05-2008, 9:07 PM
Perhaps we need Calgunners working the valet parking to get attendee info, esp on LCAV types.

I might attend. I guess I could volunteer to do parking.

I'm qualified to be at a Brady event. I'm very active in working against gun violence. I've had a lot of training in how to stop gun violence, and I've taught (at a basic level) quite a few people in how to do that also.

Theseus
08-05-2008, 10:43 PM
I might attend. I guess I could volunteer to do parking.

I'm qualified to be at a Brady event. I'm very active in working against gun violence. I've had a lot of training in how to stop gun violence, and I've taught (at a basic level) quite a few people in how to do that also.

I would be willing to go. . . Of course I would likely ask a question and be tazed out. . :cool:

nicki
08-06-2008, 2:58 AM
If I was down there I would stand up and say my significant other was a victim of gun violence when he was murdered while robbing a store to support his drug habit.

I would cry about how he only was trying to get a fix and that store owner had no right to blow his brains out.:eek:

We had to have a closed coffin because the storeowner used a shotgun that blew half his face off.:43:

Nicki

pedro_c111
08-06-2008, 5:51 AM
Well atleast that Colbert Report piece was pretty hilarious.

aileron
08-06-2008, 6:19 AM
Uh, about the Alaskan store owner, they don't mention whether he called the cops.

How many of you have been left with the gun in your hand while the store owner helps someone else? This sounds like what happened, the guy waited for his moment, and walked out with it, while strangely plopping down 200 cash for it.

It took them a few minutes to figure out the guy was gone, the gun was gone, and he left money for it. I'm sure they called the cops right away.

I'm not so inclined to feel the store owner is at fault in Alaska where a lot of folks carry firearms because things will eat you there.

To me its the Brady's frothing at the mouth to sue someone and set yet another precedent we don't want. If a gun is stolen from a gun store/gun owner its the owners fault for its illegal use in the future.

motorhead
08-07-2008, 1:58 AM
send nra spies.