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nicki
07-30-2008, 12:05 PM
We must realize that getting our rights back will require attacks on mulitple levels. Building bridges is critical and we will have to reach left.

This weekend I was spent time with a French Documentary crew who are making a documentary to be broadcasted in Europe before our elections.

The crew was focusing on Gay issues and since I'm the San Jose coordinator for the Pink Pistols, I brought them down for a shoot. I leased a private range for the event which we spent close to 5 hours filming.

They had come out a few months early to scout things, all I know is they went alot more extensive than guns with me, they wanted to know my private life.

What was interesting is we spent probably about a good 16 hours together and we had alot of back and forth talks on a lot of things.

We got along very well and there is definitely a culture clash between us and Europeans.

I drilled the point that the LBGT community is making a serious mistake in being anti gun because the LBGT community, like any other minority, needs arms to protect themselves on many levels.

1. From Individuals.
2. From Groups
3. From Governments. I cited modern day Iran as an example.

I pointed out that we get our rights from God, or the creator and that governments exist to serve us, not the other way around.

The first amendment exists to give us peaceble means to correct our government and the 2nd amendment is our enforcement tool.

Without ablility to enforce our rights, we have none.

We talked about cars, since my turbo trans am was part of the story, still need to fine tune it, new fuel system was running too rich, I could only get 513rwhp and 630 foot pounds of torque at 4200 rpm on the motor.

Still, that is double stock power and it probably matches both the corvette z06 and Dodge viper for power output. When I fix the tuning, I'll smoke both of them. Car passes Cal emmissions by the way.

Guys, things in Europe are not good, they definitely have the nanny state, especially on the highways and the Europeans hate it, but as "Jean" was telling me, they can't do anything about it.

At least in Europe, most of the speed limits are 70 to 80mph, except of course in Germany where they have roads where the speed limit is open.

How would you like to have highways with hidden remote speed cameras and a national speed limit of 60 mph where if you drive say 64mph, you get a speeding ticket in the mail plus 1 point on your license.

How would you like to have a mandatory GPS tracking on your car?
How about mandatory GPS control on your car?

Most people(sheep) don't pay attention are care unless things effect them.

The average driver commits at least 1 minor traffic violation every 8 to 10 miles of driving. How many of us would have driver's licenses if there was widespread use of hidden remote traffic enforcement for speed and the speed limits were set artifically low by say 10 to 15 mph to what the traffic would naturally drive based on road conditions?

I made a point that the issue for me wasn't guns, it was freedom.

Let's put it this way, the French guys got it when I explained to them why we have guns in America.

They asked about the 2nd amendment, and my response was that the second amendment had multiple purposes.

1. The government recognizes the individual right to own arms.
2. Their is a collective duty to be ready to participate in the Militia and to report with appropriate arms for militia duty.

The militia was supposed to be the bulk of the national defense, no standing army, and that it existed to protect the country from enemies foreign and domestice.

If the government got oppressive, it was the not only the right, but the duty of the militia to restore a just government.

The second amendment exists to protect all of our other rights and to control government.

I made it a point that in Democracies, sometimes people can elect really bad people, and we have to have a way to remove bad people othewise really bad things can happen.

Since they were French, I gave the example of the Germans electing Hitler.

I don't know how I will come out on the film, they could do a complete hatchet job, I don't know. My feeling is that they want to make a positive film and I made it a point not to bash the gay community, rather what I said was that I had a disagreement with them.

Of course we went to a nightclub in San Jose, and people were asking what I was doing and I told them who I was and what I stand for and everyone of them told me that what I was doing was awesome, that it was fierce. I got no negative comments from anyone and that is what the film crew saw.

I do have one major ace in the hole that most of you probably never will have. Since I am transgendered, if the any media person does a hatchet job on me, they make themselves look transphobic.

Even though I disagree with the LBGT community on this issue, media people are afraid to make LBGT people look bad.

The track record here in the United States on press for the pink pistols indicates that we get balanced, even positive press coverage.

I am well aware of how the media portrays most gun owners which is one reason why I am always open to talking with media people on guns.

Nicki

Gator Monroe
07-30-2008, 12:15 PM
75% OF ANTI 2A Gun Grabbers are Socialistic Liberal Democrats so why reach out to them ? Why cant they veere right or at least to the middle a bit ?

nobs11
07-30-2008, 12:23 PM
75% OF ANTI 2A Gun Grabbers are Socialistic Liberal Democrats so why reach out to them ? Why cant they veere right or at least to the middle a bit ?

Because gays are people too and need the ability to defend themselves.

Not everyone agrees on everything but they are people as well and RKBA applies to them too.

Can we be a bit more open minded? The more people we have on board the better. Your social views and 2A views do not have to match. If it is 2A are concerned about you need to be open or at least ignore or tolerate other views on social issues. It is unfortunate that we have radical polarization in this country.

A lot of people outside the gun owning community think:

Gun owner = conservative redneck who hates gays

A lot of gun owners think:

Anti 2A = socialist gay lover

This view is too simplistic. There are shades of gray. Building bridges is important to win any battle. Thank you.

Gator Monroe
07-30-2008, 12:48 PM
A lot of people think (Gunowner = Gang Banger of Color who causes Liberals to think that all gunowners are Evil wrongdoers who for the sake of the Many should have their Rights to Private Firearms ownership removed ! ) And are the Gunowners in New York, New Jersey, Orange county California, Maine, Rhode Island ,Vermont,Marin County California,Omaha Nebraska ALL put into the Red neck catagory ?

WokMaster1
07-30-2008, 1:37 PM
good job! Let us know when it comes out. I look forward to seeing it.:)

CSACANNONEER
07-30-2008, 1:57 PM
good job! Let us know when it comes out. I look forward to seeing it.:)

+1!

CCWFacts
07-30-2008, 2:21 PM
I believe that a good chunk of the power behind the anti-gun stuff in the leg. is because it's a way to tweak rednecks. Why are gay legislators like Feuer and Migden so passionate over guns? Well, they can't vote to have homophobic rednecks sent off to Siberia, so instead they can vote to do things that tweak them, like banning fun guns, etc. It would be a great asset to us if we had more gays active in the NRA.

sammy
07-30-2008, 2:35 PM
Good job Nicki!! I too look foward to seeing it when it comes out. You must post a follow-up link when it comes availible. Good job and keep up the fight.

ojisan
07-30-2008, 3:18 PM
Thank you, Niki!
I think the best person for any job is the one that can get it done.
Sounds like one heck of an effort here! :D

Gator Monroe
07-30-2008, 3:23 PM
There are more gunowners in the United States of Vietnamese/Mien/Cambodian/Burmese/Thai background than there are Gay ,Lesbian,Transgender gunowners !

bulgron
07-30-2008, 3:50 PM
There are more gunowners in the United States of Vietnamese/Mien/Cambodian/Burmese/Thai background than there are Gay ,Lesbian,Transgender gunowners !

So what?

Everyone who is willing to support gun rights should be welcomed into the effort.

Gator Monroe
07-30-2008, 3:54 PM
So what?

Everyone who is willing to support gun rights should be welcomed into the effort.

That Support should include not voting for Democrat Gun grabbers ?:eek:

bulgron
07-30-2008, 4:10 PM
That Support should include not voting for Democrat Gun grabbers ?:eek:

I think you're missing the point.

If someone is truly willing to support the 2A, they won't be a gun grabber.

I'm quite happy to support Democrats who support my 2A rights. They are out there you know, although not in large numbers. The trick is identifying them.

Also, never forget that there's plenty of "redneck republicans" who would be delighted to take away all our arms. Party affiliation is not necessarily a good indicator of how a politician views this issue.

ojisan
07-30-2008, 4:20 PM
Us and them will not get the job done as fast as all of us together.
If a democrat is likely to win in your area, then vote (if you can) for a pro-gun democrat. Whatever it takes to git 'er done...

Gator Monroe
07-30-2008, 4:25 PM
Us and them will not get the job done as fast as all of us together.
If a democrat is likely to win in your area, then vote (if you can) for a pro-gun democrat. Whatever it takes to git 'er done...

Trouble is you guys vote for the Dems reguardless of their 2A stance (For Congress & Senate in both State and US races

bulgron
07-30-2008, 4:42 PM
Trouble is you guys vote for the Dems reguardless of their 2A stance (For Congress & Senate in both State and US races

Yeah right.

Paint with a broad brush much?

Spaceghost
07-30-2008, 4:46 PM
All of the political mumbo-jumbo aside, I would like to thank you for your well spoken stance on the RKBA for ALL people. Good work and let us know when the film gets released.

bwiese
07-30-2008, 4:50 PM
Nicki,

Thanks for taking the time & trouble to do a good job.


RKBA for everyone!

CoinStar
07-30-2008, 4:51 PM
75% OF ANTI 2A Gun Grabbers are Socialistic Liberal Democrats so why reach out to them ?

You're obviously new to the cause if you still think that the partisan angle is a valid argument when it comes to the RKBA.

I suspect that you mean well and all, but in fact, it's those who're vocal with sentiments likes yours (and these wild "figures" pulled from thin air) that undermine the gun rights movement more than any of the "Socialistic Liberal[s]" you perceive as enemies. This is especially true when you consider that what Nicki is doing is exactly the type of subtle activism that goes a long way towards changing public perception and that your own naysaying is part of what got us to where we are today.

I'm not sure why anyone engages your pseudo-points on this forum either.

bulgron
07-30-2008, 4:57 PM
I'm not sure why anyone engages your pseudo-points on this forum either.

Because we can't change his perception if we don't engage him.

BillCA
07-30-2008, 5:13 PM
75% OF ANTI 2A Gun Grabbers are Socialistic Liberal Democrats so why reach out to them ? Why cant they veere right or at least to the middle a bit ?

Because sometimes people need a nudge or three to get them to veer to the right. :D

Just because some young person grew up as children of hippies or yuppies (etc) doesn't mean their ideas are set in concrete.

I have a neighbor with an Obama poster in her window who is a teacher from a "liberal" family. After a recent incident involving someone breaking a window to get into the house, she now appreciates the fact that at least one of her neighbors is armed. She's even asked how complicated it is to buy a gun. So that's a positive turn.

Remember, turning people from their pre-conceived political viewpoints is like turning an oil-tanker. It takes time and a lot of space. :cool:

BillCA
07-30-2008, 5:17 PM
Nicki,

Thank you for being a spokesperson for RKBA in a clear and rational way. I'm sure we'd all like to see the film or parts of it, anyhow, to see how it turned out.

ojisan
07-30-2008, 6:15 PM
Trouble is you guys vote for the Dems reguardless of their 2A stance (For Congress & Senate in both State and US races
FAIL!
My left wing friends say I am right wing.
My right wing friends say I am left wing.
Sounds perfect to me. Maybe a Libertarian / Constitutionalist actually.
I will vote for whoever is best on 2A / related issues.

Where is Glock22 sig line? ...something like: when I was young, I saw only black and white, now that I'm old, I see only shades of gray. Well said.

M. Sage
07-30-2008, 7:29 PM
Thank you, Niki!
I think the best person for any job is the one that can get it done.
Sounds like one heck of an effort here! :D

+1! Sounds like you did a helluva job!

By the way.. let's keep it on topic guys. Trolling for a fight is in very poor taste.

.223
07-30-2008, 7:50 PM
People, ignore the trolls (and by "trolls", I mean Monroe).

Keep us posted, Nicki, and keep up the good work. Connecting more with the LGBT and European communities with gun-rights education can only help.

ivanimal
07-30-2008, 8:56 PM
Way to go Nicki! You represent us well. Please do not feed the troll he is on the edge of not being able to post here anymore. He will just blame you for it.:rolleyes:

nicki
07-31-2008, 2:42 AM
I will definitely keep everyone posted, I am hoping that I knock the French for a loop so to speak.

It will be broadcasted in Europe prior to the elections. It is a film covering many aspects of Gays in America.

The film will be 90 minutes long and my segment will be 8 to 10 minutes, so I will get a decent shot.

This documentary originally was being aimed at a gay audience, but I think the director may open his mind and expand it to appeal to a broader audience.

I say that because I noticed a shift in his body language after I was talking to him that while I was part of the LBGT community, that I have a interdependent mindset.

I probably will be going to the SAF GRPC in Phoenix in Sept as the Pink Pistol spokesperson. I went last year to Ohio and things went very well.

I have to clear things with National first, but I don't see an issue.

Gays and Guns will be hot issues in the election, and as such, anything I say will be geared to really adding gasoline to the fire.

Assuming I am the speaker again, I will have some things to say about SF Mayor Gavin Newson and they will be extremely controversial. I wouldn't have it any other way.

What I really would like is a high grade copy of my speech immediately posted on You Tube. If we have friends that can get media access, it is all the better.

There is no bad press in this case.

To whom it may concern, I am a Ron Paul Republican. I think Obama has a great presence and no substance.

What I have seen about Obama, I don't like. I thought Hillary was bad, this guy is worse.

Obama is against concealed carry. To me that makes him against people like me being able to defend our lifes, that makes him a "homophobe"

Obama is against oppressed minorities like me having effective(Black rifles) means to defend ourselves from attacks from groups To me, that makes him a "homophobe".

Guys, I realize this is a gun forum, but isn't the real gut issue that unites most of us really Freedom.

Thanks again for you comments guys.

Nicki

aileron
07-31-2008, 5:21 AM
Even though I disagree with the LBGT community on this issue, media people are afraid to make LBGT people look bad.

The track record here in the United States on press for the pink pistols indicates that we get balanced, even positive press coverage.

I am well aware of how the media portrays most gun owners which is one reason why I am always open to talking with media people on guns.

Nicki

Awesome. This is what we need, hammer it home to the Europeans. Hopefully they will start waking up, and take their governments back. Excellent job, now lets hope for the best that they don't give you the hatchet.

Now if you could just explain to me what LBGT stands for.

BroncoBob
07-31-2008, 5:31 AM
Nicki: You are right on target, I can only hope that the producer of the film does justice and doesn't do a hatchet job on what you have said. Keep up the good work and keep us informed.

ivanimal
07-31-2008, 5:40 AM
Awesome. This is what we need, hammer it home to the Europeans. Hopefully they will start waking up, and take their governments back. Excellent job, now lets hope for the best that they don't give you the hatchet.

Now if you could just explain to me what LBGT stands for.


Lesbian, bisexual, Gay, Transgender if I recall correctly. I am sure someone will correct me if i am mistaken.

phil conrad
07-31-2008, 11:09 AM
I have often wondered why many homosexuals are so anti gun. To me they would be some of the most serious gun owners there are. Lets face it they are a group of people that many others hate.
I think the homosexual community would be a good group to approach and work with about the second.

Theseus
07-31-2008, 2:10 PM
To put my .02 in this. I have, since I first registered to vote have been listed as Republican, but I don't know ANY republican that feels the way I do. .

I believe that it doesn't matter if you are gay, doesn't matter if you are black, doesn't matter if you practice religion, you are all people and deserve the same rights as any other person. Gays should be able to marry and divorce, blacks should have the same access to opportunity as whites, and Jews shouldn't deserve any better treatment than an atheist. I don't care who you are and what you think as long as you don't infringe on my rights. When that happens I won't care if you are gay, if you are black, or if you are Jewish. . . I will defend my right equally against everyone.

Now, does that make me a Republican? Does it make me a Democrat? Or maybe an Independent?

I welcome anyone to support the 2A, and will return the favor by supporting their rights!

radioburning
08-01-2008, 9:02 AM
Good job. In Long Beach, there are traffic cameras at certain lights already. The thing that is really un-American about it is that the cameras were installed and owned by a private business that makes a commission off of each ticket...

AJAX22
08-01-2008, 9:17 AM
Great job!

I'm glad to see someone who understands that preaching to the choir is not the most effective way to win.

It really is about freedom.

Glock22Fan
08-01-2008, 9:17 AM
Good job. In Long Beach, there are traffic cameras at certain lights already.

We have an ever increasing number of them around here.

I read an article the other day (sorry I don't remember where) that many authorities are shaving seconds off the yellow lights in the hope of generating more revenue from fines.

Great, I say, the yellow light is there to protect people, so shaving seconds off it is putting our lives at risk. And some say that politicians care about us?

The thing that is really un-American about it is that the cameras were installed and owned by a private business that makes a commission off of each ticket...


I thought that private enterprise was very American ???

510dat
08-01-2008, 9:29 AM
I thought that private enterprise was very American ???

Private enterprise is good, but the way that system is set up creates a conflict of interest. The lights are supposed to be set up to prevent lawbreaking, but the financial incentive creates a situation where it's easy to unwittingly break the law. Instead of preventing crime, the system creates more crime. Not unlike gun control.

Flyliner
08-01-2008, 10:52 AM
How would you like to have highways with hidden remote speed cameras...

They already have them in Arizona...

tankerman
08-01-2008, 4:06 PM
Sounds to me like you presented a very American point of view for them. Hopefully they do not intentionally misrepresent anything you said.

Good job.

nicki
08-02-2008, 1:59 AM
When I talked with the director I told him that if we made the filming safe, that it would "bore his audience".

I have a gut feeling that many others in his film wanted to play it safe, I wanted to go the other way.

Alot of stuff will probably be lost due to editing, but we have some jems.

For instance, a live fire demonstration of 911 vs 1911. Estimated response time for 911, minutes, response time for 1911, 3.9 seconds for 8 shots, 3 targets.

If nothing else, filming was very educational.

Nicki

EastBayRidge
08-02-2008, 9:58 AM
"For instance, a live fire demonstration of 911 vs 1911. Estimated response time for 911, minutes, response time for 1911, 3.9 seconds for 8 shots, 3 targets."

The next logical step is Jerry Miculek v. 911... :43:

ojisan
08-02-2008, 8:17 PM
For instance, a live fire demonstration of 911 vs 1911. Estimated response time for 911, minutes, response time for 1911, 3.9 seconds for 8 shots, 3 targets. If nothing else, filming was very educational.
Nicki

Now dat's funny right there...I don't care who you are, dat's funny!...Larry The Cable Guy. :devil:

M. Sage
08-02-2008, 8:57 PM
The next logical step is Jerry Miculek v. 911... :43:

Who would you get to dial? Nobody can dial that fast!