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tenbender
07-27-2008, 1:41 PM
Greetings all. I have been here for a few months and don't wish to sound like a kid or some inexperienced novice. I have been shooting, reloading, hunting and collecting firearms for nearly 47 of my 52 years. Well at least the shooting aspect of our great sport.:)

I have read some recent posts where forum members are hesitant to respond to stupid questions (totally understandable) concerning the legality of owning certain weapons, mags et al, and I honestly am attempting to keep this question from fitting into that category. I have searched a fair amount here and cannot find anything on the legality issues of owning an Heckler and Koch 91A3 in our lovely, albeit communist state. :mad:

I have the opportunity to own a very nice imported 1979 91A3 from an out of state individual but want to keep it legal. Please excuse my naiveté with regard to this issue. I am merely looking for some honest answers and don't wish to rile anyone here with useless questions. Please excuse this question if it is in the wrong forum. I only wish to adhere to the rules. Thank you for your replies in advance and have a good one!

69Mach1
07-27-2008, 1:44 PM
Welcome to the forum. If the HK rifle is marked 91, 93, or 94 then it's a no-go. There are non listed HK rifles available to you. Off the top of my head......HK 911, HK43 (?), SR9 (T, TC).

69Mach1
07-27-2008, 1:47 PM
You can also go for the clones like the PTR91, and the Vector 53.

aplinker
07-27-2008, 1:52 PM
There's a nicely priced Hk 911 on the for sales right now.

RP1911
07-27-2008, 2:15 PM
The law:

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models identified as follows:
(A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.
(3) Beretta AR-70.
(4) CETME Sporter.
(5) Colt AR-15 series.
(6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR110 C.
(7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
(8) MAS 223.
(9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1
(10) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M11.
(11) SKS with detachable magazine.
(12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
(13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
(14) Sterling MK-6.
(15) Steyer AUG.
(16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
(17) Armalite AR-180.
(18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
(19) Calico M-900.
(20) J&R ENG M-68.
(21) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
(b) All of the following specified pistols:
(1) UZI.
(2) Encom MP-9 and MP-45.
(3) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M-11.
(C) Advance Armament Inc. M-11.
(D) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11.
(4) Intratec TEC-9.
(5) Sites Spectre.
(6) Sterling MK-7.
(7) Calico M-950.
(8) Bushmaster Pistol.
(c) All of the following specified shotguns:
(1) Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
(2) Striker 12.
(3) The Streetsweeper type S/S Inc. SS/12.

It says HK 91. Does not say HK 91A3.

Not withstanding 12276.1

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/awguide.pdf

Guntech
07-27-2008, 2:29 PM
Welcome and Nice Sig!

ke6guj
07-27-2008, 2:41 PM
It says HK 91. Does not say HK 91A3.

AFAIK, A3 is a configuration, not a model that is stamped on the receiver. The receiver would just say HK91 with either an A2 or A3 stock on it.

M. Sage
07-27-2008, 2:49 PM
Moved it to the right section.

Welcome to Calguns. Definitely not a dumb question.

Casual Observer
07-27-2008, 3:40 PM
AFAIK, A3 is a configuration, not a model that is stamped on the receiver. The receiver would just say HK91 with either an A2 or A3 stock on it.

+1. "A3" is HK's configuration modifier with respect to stock assembly and sometime trigger group.