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Beej
07-24-2008, 4:37 PM
SO I am new to the AR scene and am hearing different things about the bullet buttons. I hear that the prince-50 is a little more "risky" as far as being legal because it can be backed out with the screw and the bullet button is better because it is "fixed" in place. My question is which is the best choice for CA legal AR's?

aplinker
07-24-2008, 4:42 PM
The Prince-50 isn't really risky - I think that's a line that was used back when people were really resistant to bullet buttons as a talking point for the Bullet Button. If you don't check your screws or bolts they all can back out and make an accidental AW.

By the way, the Prince50 isn't a bullet button. Bullet button refers to the capability to drop mags using a tool.

There are really only 2 out there - the bullet button by Prince and the B-15 by Toolbox X via Prince.

Advantages of B-15: quicker conversion to standard mag release when going out of state.

Advantages of BB: $10 cheaper and looks more like regular regular release (no covering).

I like them both and own them both. My current favorite is a traditional bullet button with the speed funnel to ease finding the hole with the tool. I want Grant to add a funneling to the B-15.

Mississippi
07-24-2008, 4:50 PM
I like them both. I use the Prince 50 because I travel out of state and like my AR to ready to go. It does covert from a Komiefornia gun to a free gun pretty fast. I may not like the laws but I do obey them.

Beej
07-24-2008, 4:51 PM
Thanks, not out of state for me, so sounds like the BB is the best fit for my needs.

aplinker
07-24-2008, 4:59 PM
I stole these pics from Wes @ Tenpercentfirearms:

Here's a "Bullet Button"
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/images/bullbutt1.jpg

B-15 (cage goes around the standard mag release so it acts like a BB in CA and a regular mag drop outside):
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/bmz_cache/a/a81ee42776d0d4c4cc40e653167ffe9a.image.733x550.jpg

Here's a Prince50 (set screw keeps the mag from being able to be dropped. TOP LOAD ONLY - never remove magazine in CA. Very quick to convert outside CA)
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/images/prince50.jpg

Lastly, the speed funnel which goes over the standard Bullet Button and allows the tool to quickly find the release (you don't have to stop and look):
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/bmz_cache/7/777f72bcd78433aa147db2cbc94fc79b.image.733x550.jpg

technique
07-24-2008, 5:02 PM
UMMMM... I think you forgot the C-15 100% biodegradable
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0181.jpg

Beej
07-24-2008, 5:05 PM
I really like teh BB with the funnel setup. I think that is what I am aiming at. Thanks.

aplinker
07-24-2008, 5:10 PM
I might be partial, but the funnel set up really is nice. It hasn't caught on, but I think it's because people haven't tried it. With a BB you have to actually look when you're using your tool. With the funnel you can just stick it in without paying attention. <-- sounds dirty, sorry.

UMMMM... I think you forgot the C-15 100% biodegradable
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0181.jpg


Pic + your signature = :vomit:

Mississippi
07-24-2008, 5:17 PM
UMMMM... I think you forgot the C-15 100% biodegradable
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0181.jpg

Thats a catch 22 for California! It's easy on mother earth! Where can I get one of those awesome C-15's?

Just dont let bugs bunny come around or your AR might become an AW.
:)

Mississippi
07-24-2008, 5:17 PM
Where can you buy one of the Funnel bullet buttons?

sorensen440
07-24-2008, 5:20 PM
prince 50s not risky
just dont remove the screw in california

bullet buttons are great because you can change out your mags at the range

I recommend building one of each

aplinker
07-24-2008, 5:21 PM
Where can you buy one of the Funnel bullet buttons?

The funnel is just an attachment over the standard BB.

Darin told me he shipped them to 10% and Cold War, but he might have to others, as well.

sorensen440
07-24-2008, 5:23 PM
wes has them
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=381&zenid=89a27bd5cfa54ea947442c90c6a88d51

Mississippi
07-24-2008, 5:24 PM
wes has them
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=381&zenid=89a27bd5cfa54ea947442c90c6a88d51

Cool! Thanks guys.

trinydex
07-24-2008, 5:53 PM
i definitely think the b15 is best. least invasive.