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DVLDOC
07-24-2008, 3:09 PM
Anyone seen this video yet? I thought the max effective range of the
.223/5.56 cal is about 600 yards?

Has anyone in here done this before? :cool2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B9NkQldeu0

CavTrooper
07-24-2008, 3:15 PM
Anyone seen this video yet? I thought the max effective range of the
.223/5.56 cal is about 600 yards?

Has anyone in here done this before? :cool2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B9NkQldeu0

Max effective range and max range are two different things.

aplinker
07-24-2008, 3:18 PM
There are some rocks at Angeles out about 800yds I sometimes drop bullets on. Not as fun as the 600yd metal - no ping feedback.

Effective isn't the same as accurate or reachable range. Effective generally refers to kill distance (sufficient energy).

odysseus
07-24-2008, 3:23 PM
Never saw this, thanks for posting up.

Effective verus max is different. Still wouldn't want to be on the recieving end of 75grain at 800.

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aplinker
07-24-2008, 3:26 PM
Never saw this, thanks for posting up.

Effective verus max is different. Still wouldn't want to be on the recieving end of 75grain at 800.

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Wouldn't bother me at ANY range.... as long as it's moving less than 100fps :D

odysseus
07-24-2008, 3:29 PM
Wouldn't bother me at ANY range.... as long as it's moving less than 100fps :D

Silly.
;)

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FMJBT
07-24-2008, 3:40 PM
Looking at the hits on that steel plate, it seems like the bullets still have suficient energy to be lethal even at that distance. Pretty impressive shooting, and good incentive to go with 75gr bullets :)

Mississippi
07-24-2008, 3:46 PM
Thats a cool video. You could almost move out of the way before the bullet got to you at that distance.

Corbin Dallas
07-24-2008, 3:48 PM
This is impressive.

1602 yard shot, hit the target on the 2nd shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NxRSNJkPQ4

DVLDOC
07-24-2008, 4:32 PM
This video makes me want to buy a .223 bolt action now! (BTW I know hes using an AR) The reason that I found this video was because I'm still debating if I should buy a .223 or .308 BOLT ACTION RIFLE. Some of my friends said there's no point of buying a .223 & might as well buy a .22 if Im gonna do that. I was considering the ammo cost; effective range and the life of the barrel. Im debating between HOWA 1500 .223 OR .308 (BOTH WITH HEAVY BARREL) Im on the budget so I'm going towards these models with the Niko Sterling Scope COMBO. The max I'll ever shoot will be 600-800 Yards. Also most of the .308 model is Out of Stock right now thats why I was kinda thinking about the .223

Any suggestions/comments will help. Thanks!

aplinker
07-24-2008, 4:35 PM
This video makes me want to buy a .223 bolt action now! (BTW I know hes using an AR) The reason that I found this video was because I'm still debating if I should buy a .223 or .308 BOLT ACTION RIFLE. Some of my friends said there's no point of buying a .223 & might as well buy a .22 if Im gonna do that. I was considering the ammo cost; effective range and the life of the barrel. Im debating between HOWA 1500 .223 OR .308 (BOTH WITH HEAVY BARREL) Im on the budget so I'm going towards these models with the Niko Sterling Scope COMBO. The max I'll ever shoot will be 600-800 Yards. Also most of the .308 model is Out of Stock right now thats why I was kinda thinking about the .223

Any suggestions/comments will help. Thanks!

You're going to have a much harder time doing that consistently with a .223 than a .308.

xcrunner805
07-25-2008, 8:40 PM
I have a Howa 1500 .308, fairly consistent round, mainly a reason why the military uses .308 as some of their sniper's rifles is because of the consistentcy of it at great distances. The trajectory is not as flat as some other rounds, but the consistency is military approved. 223 at far distances becomes affected b y the wind due to the light bullet, drifts a too much at even 500 yards. You can't go wrong with a 150/180 grain ballistic tip .308. It is a lot of recoil but it's powerful! The nikko stirling scope is pretty good for what it's worth. It holds zero, it's 3-9X40mm, decent eye relief. The power knob is hard to turn though, it sucks :( You really have to put your arm into turning to 9X. They don't make front lens flip up caps for that odd shaped objective though. Howas are sleeping giants, really reliable, fairly accurate, and actions are made by weatherby i believe, barrels made in japan. Pretty good value for <$600. I have the M1500 Howa in .308 with the green Hogue stock. Pretty comfortable, but on the heavy side.

xcrunner805
07-25-2008, 8:41 PM
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sb_pete
07-25-2008, 9:14 PM
Thats a cool video. You could almost move out of the way before the bullet got to you at that distance.

LOL, well the bullet is still supersonic at time of impact, so you might be able to if you were staring up at the shooter, assumed he was going to hit you and juked as soon as you saw the muzzle flash. But you would not hear the shot before it hit you, so in practical terms that wouldn't work.

Looking at the hits on that steel plate, it seems like the bullets still have suficient energy to be lethal even at that distance. Pretty impressive shooting, and good incentive to go with 75gr bullets :)
Well, don't have data for 75 grainers, but Fed GMM 77gr loads are similar and would still be supersonic and carrying 230-240 ft-lbs of energy at that point. That's about equal to the energy of taking a .22 Mag round from 25yds or so (although the 75gr .223 is significantly longer and weighs about twice as much so has the potential to make a bigger hole if it doesn't go straight through). In any case, it might not exactly blow your head off, but it could definitely be fatal. (It's also about the same energy as a 115gr 9x19mm FMJ @100yds although the size of the wound cavity is different so...).

Keep in mind he is using a 24" match barrel with customized loads for a 75gr projectile. This ain't exactly lobbing surplus xm193 rounds downrange with an M4:rolleyes:

This is impressive. 1602 yard shot, hit the target on the 2nd shot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NxRSNJkPQ4
Holy mother of :eek: that is so friggin :cool:

This video makes me want to buy a .223 bolt action now! (BTW I know hes using an AR) The reason that I found this video was because I'm still debating if I should buy a .223 or .308 BOLT ACTION RIFLE. Some of my friends said there's no point of buying a .223 & might as well buy a .22 if Im gonna do that. I was considering the ammo cost; effective range and the life of the barrel. Im debating between HOWA 1500 .223 OR .308 (BOTH WITH HEAVY BARREL) Im on the budget so I'm going towards these models with the Niko Sterling Scope COMBO. The max I'll ever shoot will be 600-800 Yards. Also most of the .308 model is Out of Stock right now thats why I was kinda thinking about the .223

Any suggestions/comments will help. Thanks!
You should also check out the Savage 10fp. Comes in both calibers and the accutrigger is nicer than the Howa for my money.

Also check out the Super Sniper 10X scopes and the Millett TRS-1 4-16X scopes. I was in your shoes about a year ago and decided on a 10fp in .308 with the Millett scope. I love it, no regrets at all.

Hope that helps,
-pete

DVLDOC
07-28-2008, 8:45 PM
I decided to buy the REMINGTON 700 SPS VARMINT .308 w/ heavy barrel. Now I'm shopping around for scopes. Thanks for all the info!

V8toytruck
07-28-2008, 9:08 PM
Did you pick it up at Turners (currently on sale)?

I initially picked up a .223 bolt action to get cheaper trigger time. The longest range I shoot at is Angeles. That was a few months ago. I still haven't gotten my groups down to at least 1.5-3.0MOA. Granted I use cheap plinking ammo :)

Can someone recommended a locally available supply of match quality ammo at great prices?

DVLDOC
08-02-2008, 12:11 AM
Did you pick it up at Turners (currently on sale)?

I initially picked up a .223 bolt action to get cheaper trigger time. The longest range I shoot at is Angeles. That was a few months ago. I still haven't gotten my groups down to at least 1.5-3.0MOA. Granted I use cheap plinking ammo :)

Can someone recommended a locally available supply of match quality ammo at great prices?

I cancelled the REM 700 SPS and changed it for the HOWA M1500 .223 W SCOPE COMBO! For the same reason, cheaper trigger time! I dont need a 308 for the shooting that Im doing now. I know that if I bought the REM700 its just gonna be a SAFE QUEEN for awhile.