Kids bring AK47 to school!

[.45shooter]

:popcorn:

http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_9951979?source=rss

The two students arrested at Pinole Valley High School on Friday following a six-hour lockdown of the campus are suspected of bringing an AK-47 assault rifle to school, Pinole police said Monday.

The male students, whose ages were not released, both were arrested on suspicion of possession of an illegal assault weapon, possession of a machine gun, bringing a firearm onto school grounds, being a minor in possession of live ammunition, being a minor with a concealed weapon, being a minor in possession of a firearm with prior conviction, a probation violation and marijuana transportation. Both have previous gun and ammunition possession arrests or convictions on their records, police said.

Despite the charges and contrary to earlier reports, no gun or ammunition was found on the students or recovered at the school, Pinole police Cmdr Pete Janke said.

"In our investigation, we believe an AK-47 was brought on school grounds," Janke said. "We're still investigating what happened to the weapon."

Janke said he did not know whether the students remained in custody Monday. Their names have not been released because they are minors.

AK-47s are restricted in California, where new purchases of many semiautomatic rifles have been banned.

Pinole Valley High was locked down around 8 a.m. Friday after a student riding an AC Transit bus told district officials and police that he saw another student concealing a gun in his clothing and may have brought it onto campus.

Pinole police — along with Hercules police and the Contra Costa County Sheriff's Office, California Highway Patrol and East Bay Regional Park District police — closed Pinole Valley Road east of Interstate 80 for several hours as K-9 units searched the campus and surrounding areas for suspects or weapons. All of the approximately 800 students were searched.

No shots were fired and no one was hurt. The lockdown was lifted about 2:15 p.m.

Students and school staff were required to remain in classrooms or the gym for hours before they were loaded onto WestCAT buses, then evacuated to Collins Elementary School about a half-mile away.

[Guntech]

KIds? more like thugs or hoodlums

[Hopi]

probably just an airsoft. Media sensationalism. All this is based on one kids story?

[virulosity]

guns are like witchcraft for the 21st century. If someone pisses you off, tell the cops they have a gun and the whole town will get involved in the "exorcism"

[jumbopanda]

guns are like witchcraft for the 21st century. If someone pisses you off, tell the cops they have a gun and the whole town will get involved in the "exorcism"

Sadly, that's a very good analogy.

[saigon1965]

"In our investigation, we believe an AK-47 was brought on school grounds," Janke said. "We're still investigating what happened to the weapon."


Great investigation, or was it heresay.

[dichter]

First initial report was a sawed off shotgun though. What happened to that?

It makes sense though, sawed off shotguns and AK are probably the most scary guns for the general public...

[762cavalier]

How can they be charged with assault weapon possession or machine gun possession if the cops haven't even seen the gun? How can they be charged with a concealed weapon if it is a rifle? Sounds like the cops have a very weak case without the firearm in question.:rolleyes:

[bohoki]

hmm i thought people were innocent until proven guilty?

which is why people are suspects even if you see them do a crime

but if someone saw a gun there must be a gun there?

[sloguy]

if the gun( or lack of) part of the story wasnt pathetic enough.................

they had to bus these lazy kids a half a mile?

[CitaDeL]

How can they be charged with assault weapon possession or machine gun possession if the cops haven't even seen the gun? How can they be charged with a concealed weapon if it is a rifle? Sounds like the cops have a very weak case without the firearm in question.:rolleyes:

Throw everything at them and see what sticks.

Since the police have not recovered a weapon, its a little odd that they applied so many charges.

If it was an airsoft weapon they will be tacked up with a misdemeanor charge and a fine- probably be suspended or expelled.

With the facts being so thin, its all speculation.

[Slayer]

Blame the AK47 :rolleyes:

Those retards couldnt tell an AK47 from a Valmet from a RPK from an AK74. I'm willing to bet there was no gun involved, they just needed to justify "the boy who cried Kalishnikov".

[QuarterBoreGunner]

There's sooooo much wrong with this story.

Machine gun?

What gun?

[Nevermore]

Even money that it was a Super Soaker.

[JimmyD]

I thought schools are a gun free zone?!!! how did this kid bring an AK in so easily! /sarcasm

[Creeping Incrementalism]

KTVU said a gun was recovered. However, despite the "machine gun" headline, the charge is for an assault weapon. (http://www.ktvu.com/news/16946777/detail.html) The second I heard "machine gun at high school" on the evening news last night, I just knew it wasn't actually going to be a firearm that shot more than once per trigger pull.

[56Chevy]

Charged with possession of a machine gun? Then they article talks about restricted SEMIAUTOMATIC rifles. It sounds like more anti propaganda to me, or maybe it's Washington DC?

[tgriffin]

Even in the second article listed, everything is allegedly this, allegedly that. With the way the MSM is these days I would NOT be surprised if they completly botched or fabricated that the firearm in question had been found. This sounds like a thrown book to see what sticks on these kids, but I have zero pity as it sounds like they are three time loser gangbangers.... but then again, I dont know what to believe from the media anymore.

[PonchoTA]

... The male students, whose ages were not released, both were arrested on suspicion of possession of an illegal assault weapon, possession of a machine gun, bringing a firearm onto school grounds, being a minor in possession of live ammunition, being a minor with a concealed weapon, being a minor in possession of a firearm with prior conviction, a probation violation and marijuana transportation. Both have previous gun and ammunition possession arrests or convictions on their records, police said.

...

This is what concerns me the most. They didn't have ANY physical evidence (no actual gun, no ammo), just someone's testament that they "think they saw" a gun. Yet the kids were ARRESTED for that. Not held, not questioned, not removed for safety. ARRESTED. That's a might big step for the LEO's to take without having anything to go on other than hearsay. :mad:

Have we become so stricken with 'nanny-itis' that we lose our cool and our sense of direction when even confronted with the possibility that there is a gun around? :( Sad. :(

[E. Fudd]

I wonder if these thugs were being bussed in from da hood in Richmond...

With prior illegal gun possession convictions, somehow I don't think they'd be 'packing' airsofts or water guns...

There have been shootings there in the past (right outside the school) involving high school students there. You have a mix of suburban and inner city kids going to the same school.

Question is whether or not they found the gun. If not, where was it stashed...

[Guntech]

LOL! They interviewed one of the ignorant gun haters and she said it was an "Fully automatic assault rifle" HUH? HOW DOES SHE KNOW THAT WHEN IT WASN'T RECOVERED THE POLICE DONT EVEN KNOW THAT!

[E. Fudd]

Have we become so stricken with 'nanny-itis' that we lose our cool and our sense of direction when even confronted with the possibility that there is a gun around? :( Sad. :(

Since Littleton and Virginia Tech, absolutely! You mention the word 'gun' in a school and you'll have everyone turn out, as in the Pinole case. I can see the usual mutual aid from neighboring LE agencies, (Pinole is a very small town), but Coast Guard helos and SFPD K-9's... wow...

About a year or so back, some stupid kid in a Castro Valley High School made a threat to another student, suggesting he had a gun in his daypack. Next thing you know, Alameda Sheriff's Dept. zoomed in, school was in lockdown mode, street traffic stopped all around the school, until they sorted it all out...

[PonchoTA]

Since Littleton and Virginia Tech, absolutely! You mention the word 'gun' in a school and you'll have everyone turn out, as in the Pinole case. I can see the usual mutual aid from neighboring LE agencies, (Pinole is a very small town), but Coast Guard helos and SFPD K-9's... wow...

About a year or so back, some stupid kid in a Castro Valley High School made a threat to another student, suggesting he had a gun in his daypack. Next thing you know, Alameda Sheriff's Dept. zoomed in, school was in lockdown mode, street traffic stopped all around the school, until they sorted it all out...

:( Sad state of affairs.

[Gunaria]

To me it sounds like a student was trying to get out of taking a test or something like that. What happened to the old excuss of the dog ate my homework? Now it's I see a gun.:rolleyes:

[ldivinag]

last thing i heard on this story was it was an automatic weapon...

sigh...

[Blackwater OPS]

last thing i heard on this story was it was an automatic weapon...

sigh...

Yeah just like the "fully automatic SKS assault rifle" which was the basis for the search warrant on my house. :rolleyes:

[Ironchef]

Wow! Now kids dont' need to do the bomb threats anymore to get out of school, they can just phone in anonymous "student with an AK" to get school out!

Then there will be legislation calling fake gun reports the same as fake bomb threats...and then the suffocation game will get real popular...

I remember in high school ('88 i think it was) when some nerd told the principal that my 4 friends and I all had guns in our cars (I didn't even have a car yet) and the PD and some FBI task force guy escorted the 5 of us out of class to the office (was pretty dang cool back then). In short, my friend Alan did have his dad's unloaded revolver and was showing it to someone else he knows..but we all got our cars searched and they found nunchuku, night sticks, side handle batons, and some other stuff if I'm not mistaken. We all got off on warnings after our mommies and daddies were told (not mine as I didn't have a car yet). I can only imagine the hell we'd have seen if that happened post columbine...

[Nevermore]

Wow! Now kids dont' need to do the bomb threats anymore to get out of school, they can just phone in anonymous "student with an AK" to get school out!
The thing about that is that it's even more believable than a bomb. I mean, you have to go out of your way to build a bomb, place it (unseen), then leave and call it in. Most high school students don't have the background to build a bomb.

A gun on the other hand, is much more doable by a disgruntled high school student, and far more likely than a bomb.

In 30 years, it'll be, 'Oh no, he's got one of those non-blunted protractors! CLEAR THE SCHOOL!'

[sorensen440]

I actually had a cop pull a gun on me in highschool because somone called and said there was a gun in my truck
there was no gun
I was sitting in the back of the truck with a half a dozen friends at the time


Makes me wonder if this is a similar situation

[ibanezfoo]

guns are like witchcraft for the 21st century. If someone pisses you off, tell the cops they have a gun and the whole town will get involved in the "exorcism"

I hadn't thought of it like that but you are very right! I'm going to use that in my future arguments! :)

-Bryan