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BroncoBob
07-17-2008, 7:15 PM
:( Once again Nancy Pelosi opens her pie hole and crap starts dripping out of it. Granted President Bush hasn't been a great president but for this woman in her position in the government to make such comments and statements regarding the President of the United States borders on treason in my opinion. That's my opinion I might be wrong.


http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/topstories/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080718/ap_on_go_pr_wh/pelosi_bush

jumbopanda
07-17-2008, 7:18 PM
Politicians talk crap about each other all the time, how is that treason?

leitung
07-17-2008, 7:26 PM
Just another moron the liberals continue to elect to the house. Thier main objective is to be a mouth piece for the far left in this county who seek to destroy our freedoms and way of life by bowing down to the enemy.

I pay no attention to these idiots, they make my brain hurt to think about what they believe in, I can't understand why anyone could believe in what they do.

Steyr_223
07-17-2008, 7:33 PM
Not treason..We have the right to speak our mine. Remember all the stuff said against Bubba Clinton when he was president?

If that upset you check this out..

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/17/MN7A11QU1S.DTL&tsp=1

San Francisco Ballot Bid Puts The 'W' In Sewage

(07-17) 14:57 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco voters will be asked to decide whether to name a city sewage plant in honor of President Bush, after a satiric measure qualified for the November ballot today.

Satex
07-17-2008, 7:47 PM
Granted President Bush hasn't been a great president but for this woman in her position in the government to make such comments and statements regarding the President of the United States borders on treason in my opinion. That's my opinion I might be wrong.


Yes, you are wrong on this. You have to separate your dislike of her to her exercising her first amendment rights. Since when is criticizing any public official or branch of government treason? Keep in mind that one of the things that make our country great is that you can say things that would end you dead in a ditch in other countries.
BTW, you just expressed your opinion about her, would that make you guilty of treason?

RRangel
07-17-2008, 8:06 PM
One of the things that make this country great is the fact that some have class, although class is lost on those like Pelosi. Her comments are obviously uncalled for. It may be argued that she can say as she pleases, but she does not have any say when it comes to how the public chooses to interpret her whining. You say what you want, but do not be surprised when you're told to pull your head out of your rear port of defication.

dwtt
07-17-2008, 8:07 PM
Just another moron the liberals continue to elect to the house. Thier main objective is to be a mouth piece for the far left in this county who seek to destroy our freedoms and way of life by bowing down to the enemy.
You mean San Francisco, her congressional district? Yeah, you're right on this one.

shark92651
07-17-2008, 8:18 PM
Pot calling Kettle, "you're black". 9% congressional approval rating ring a bell?

deleted by PC police
07-17-2008, 8:31 PM
Pot calling Kettle, "you're black". 9% congressional approval rating ring a bell?


Beet me too it. If W's bad, your approval rating is lower so you must really suck ms pelosi.

berto
07-17-2008, 8:38 PM
Madam Comrade Speaker hasn't accomplished anything other than being the first woman to hold the position even though her party controls both houses and the president is wildly unpopular. I hope she continues to speak out in her shrill voice and continues to ridicule the president while doing nothing and changing nothing. When she stands alongside to the hope and change snake oil salesman in early November the correct choice on the ballot will be crystal clear.

fairfaxjim
07-17-2008, 8:41 PM
I really don't like her either, but she still has her right to free speech. She doesn't say anything worth listening too, but she's not alone on that score. I kind of like watching the Democrats choosing leadership that few americans can identify with, makes them look like the fools they are.

rayra
07-17-2008, 9:23 PM
Yes, you are wrong on this. You have to separate your dislike of her to her exercising her first amendment rights. Since when is criticizing any public official or branch of government treason? Keep in mind that one of the things that make our country great is that you can say things that would end you dead in a ditch in other countries.
BTW, you just expressed your opinion about her, would that make you guilty of treason?

For the literalists, pedants, and useless civil libertarian absolutists out there, the OP is on the right track in one important way - THE DIGNITY OF THE OFFICE.
The Democrat scum currently "leading" in Congress have taken things far beyond the pale, in terms of actively opposing Foreign policy - domain of the Executive; in conducting their own direct diplomacy with foreign dignitaries - skirting violation of the Logan Act; by villifying and undermining our troops as Murtha and Durbin have done - giving aid and comfort to our enemies in time of war (which IS treason btw); and by failing to follow the long tradition of ending bitter divisive domestic politics at the water's edge with their deliberately undermining the President while he is representing this nation overseas.
And speaking of representing this nation overseas, just wtf is Presidential Candidate Obama doint staging campaign speeches IN EUROPE. I mean I know he's going to be speaking to his socialist america-hating base, same as he does here, but when has another presidential candidate taken his show on the (foreign) road so deliberately?

What SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE Pelosi has done with her remarks goes far beyond some childish 'Freedom of Speeeech!' excuse.

24thMED
07-17-2008, 9:36 PM
Thing that scares me the most about her is... as speaker of the house, she's third in line to become Preseident if the Pres and VP get taken out... Perish the thought...

exon111
07-17-2008, 9:40 PM
Freedom of speech? She can say what she wants, and I happen to agree with her. I hate her though, but that doesn't mean what she is saying isn't true. Bush is slowly but surely pushing the U.S. on a path toward tyranny.

ViPER395
07-17-2008, 9:50 PM
You must have followed the wrong link (http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/koolspace/).

Try this one:

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/topstories/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080718/ap_on_go_pr_wh/pelosi_bush :43:

Freedom of speech? She can say what she wants, and I happen to agree with her. I hate her though, but that doesn't mean what she is saying isn't true. Bush is slowly but surely pushing the U.S. on a path toward tyranny.

exon111
07-17-2008, 9:58 PM
You must have followed the wrong link (http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/koolspace/).

Try this one:

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/topstories/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080718/ap_on_go_pr_wh/pelosi_bush :43:

No, I followed the right one. I didn't say I like Pelosi, I'm just saying I agree that Bush is total failure. Has has actively worked to nullify the constitution and initiated an unnecessary war that has made our country nearly bankrupt and a whole lot less secure. In short, Bush has failed us.

Isn't the president supposed to uphold the constitution. Please explain how the (anti) PATRIOT act complies with the bill of rights.

aileron
07-18-2008, 5:50 AM
Pot calling Kettle, "you're black". 9% congressional approval rating ring a bell?

I was going to say something along these lines. She has no leg to stand on. They both suck.

BroncoBob
07-18-2008, 6:24 AM
I understand and agree with her freedom of speech, however it is her total lack of respect for the President of the United States. We may not agree with the adminstrations policies and what we believe how they have caused our economy to take a dive into the tank, but the last time I looked the dems have controlled the Congress. Pelosi has made this a personal attack on the President not his policies. In the military it is said that you salute the rank not the person. Once again that is my opinion and I maybe wrong.

SevenFifty
07-18-2008, 8:08 AM
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire

exon111
07-18-2008, 8:13 AM
I understand you and maybe you're right, but what Bush has done to this country has caused me to hate him with such a passion that I really don't think he deserves any respect at this point. The only other president that was as bad as Bush was Wilson who paved the way to what we have now become. I'm not a democrat BTW, I'm a constitutionalist / Ron Paul person.

NotSoFast
07-18-2008, 8:20 AM
:( Once again Nancy Pelosi opens her pie hole and crap starts dripping out of it. Granted President Bush hasn't been a great president but for this woman in her position in the government to make such comments and statements regarding the President of the United States borders on treason in my opinion. That's my opinion I might be wrong.


http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/topstories/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080718/ap_on_go_pr_wh/pelosi_bush

I heard that on the news last night. The way to shut her up is to ask her what happened to the $2.00 a gal. gas she promised during her campaign. :D

Decoligny
07-18-2008, 8:37 AM
President Bush's current approval rating = 34%

Current approval rating for Congress = 11%

Who the hell is she to talk about failure?

dustoff31
07-18-2008, 10:57 AM
As the old quote goes, "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

People have the right to make as big a fool of themselves as they wish. In fact it may eventually be advantageous. Remember that congresswoman from Georgia, I think it was. McKinney, was it? She kept getting re-elected until she committed battery on a cop and started talking about UFO's and stuff. People finally did wake up.

So, drive on, Pelosi.

BroncoBob
07-18-2008, 11:19 AM
This public disrepect for the President by our elected governmental officials plays into the hands of terrorist and fuels their hatred for our great country and our men and woman in uniform around the world defending our freedom and way of life.

R_P_Rizzo
07-18-2008, 11:52 AM
Not treason..We have the right to speak our mine. Remember all the stuff said against Bubba Clinton when he was president?

If that upset you check this out..

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/17/MN7A11QU1S.DTL&tsp=1

San Francisco Ballot Bid Puts The 'W' In Sewage

(07-17) 14:57 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco voters will be asked to decide whether to name a city sewage plant in honor of President Bush, after a satiric measure qualified for the November ballot today.

Sewage treatment, or domestic wastewater treatment, is the process of removing contaminants from wastewater, both runoff (effluents) and domestic. It includes physical, chemical and biological processes to remove physical, chemical and biological contaminants. Its objective is to produce a waste stream (or treated effluent) and a solid waste or sludge suitable for discharge or reuse back into the environment.

Purpose: Take all the C##P California generates and make something usable out of it.

Seems they have missed the mark again.

99medic
07-18-2008, 12:12 PM
Not treason..We have the right to speak our mine. Remember all the stuff said against Bubba Clinton when he was president?

If that upset you check this out..

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/17/MN7A11QU1S.DTL&tsp=1

San Francisco Ballot Bid Puts The 'W' In Sewage

(07-17) 14:57 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco voters will be asked to decide whether to name a city sewage plant in honor of President Bush, after a satiric measure qualified for the November ballot today.


Different story if you are in the military.

dfletcher
07-18-2008, 12:34 PM
I heard that on the news last night. The way to shut her up is to ask her what happened to the $2.00 a gal. gas she promised during her campaign. :D

That was dependent on her getting a piece of the action I suppose, like her dear old Dad the Mayor back in Baltimore. Ask about him if you want her to be quiet.

artherd
07-18-2008, 1:10 PM
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire

+1.

She's not entirely wrong either, who here things Bush was a "Great Success?"

I say bring back clinton (fed awb aside I largely approve of what he did for the country and the economy) and I'll PERSONALLY buy him a good hooker!

hill billy
07-18-2008, 1:52 PM
Pelosi's counterpart in the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid, long ago took off the rhetorical gloves. Last month, he ridiculed Republicans who sided with Bush on a Medicare bill.

"Who would be afraid of him?" Reid, D-Nev., said as many senators looked on. "He's got a 29 percent approval rating."

The public's view of Congress is even worse. Its approval rating has hit a new low of just 18 percent, down from 23 percent last month, according to a new AP-Ipsos poll. Bush's approval is at 28 percent, about even with the 29 percent rating last month.

Two other people voiced my opinion but I'd like to add that it is interesting that this article states 18% approval for congress when I have heard 11% repeatedly and only 9% for the Democratic side. What a bunch of idiots.

BigKevLA
07-18-2008, 2:01 PM
Bush is the worst president this country has ever had.

giarcpnw
07-18-2008, 2:35 PM
Soap box alert:

We should have impeached Bush years ago for the crap he has gotten away with, regardless of his party affiliation. He is THE worst president I have experienced in my 37 years and with a little history review a lot further then that. Nixon is a saint next to this guy.

As far as Congress. We have a lame duck president and no way for either party to get majority votes. I'm a democrat personally,and I at least see the Dems trying to pass legislature to help Americans instead of Big Business or the ridiculous pissing contest over oil in the Middle East. (no disrespect to our Soldiers) Again, all this IMHO.

Bush just executive Veto's any sane legislature that gets through. So tell me how anyone wins in this situation? At least, AT LEAST, with a Democratic president, things will get rolling in this country again. Is Obama the BEST choice, dunno. I preferred Edwards myself but i have to believe in my heart that Obama is at least moving in a new direction this country needs then McCain. He's NOT what this country needs right now. And for some of you, our 2nd amendment right is more important than anything else, and i respect that. I have a safe full of C&R and new guns myself. But as i get older, i realize what i want isn't always the best for everyone else. I'm starting to think more about my kids and eventually their kids and what happens in the next 10-15 years right now will have HUGE impact on their lives. (in regards to energy, climate change and health care) I can maybe, just a little, let the grip on my guns slip a bit for this and safely vote Democratic. Since we JUST won Heller, i feel even more confident on this decision. (and i do recognize the irony that it was the conservative judges that won us Heller)

Really, it is simply time to pass the baton back to the other party for a while. It's all ebb and flow guys, it will eventually fall back to the repubs again.

And what cracks me up even more. If you look at history, Dems and Repubs were all ONE party at the forming of this nation. The "Democratic-Republican party". How did we fall so far from the same tree over the years.

I'm done. Thanks for letting me rant.

C

BroncoBob
07-18-2008, 2:52 PM
Soap box alert:

We should have impeached Bush years ago for the crap he has gotten away with, regardless of his party affiliation. He is THE worst president I have experienced in my 37 years and with a little history review a lot further then that. Nixon is a saint next to this guy.

As far as Congress. We have a lame duck president and no way for either party to get majority votes. I'm a democrat personally,and I at least see the Dems trying to pass legislature to help Americans instead of Big Business or the ridiculous pissing contest over oil in the Middle East. (no disrespect to our Soldiers) Again, all this IMHO.

Bush just executive Veto's any sane legislature that gets through. So tell me how anyone wins in this situation? At least, AT LEAST, with a Democratic president, things will get rolling in this country again. Is Obama the BEST choice, dunno. I preferred Edwards myself but i have to believe in my heart that Obama is at least moving in a new direction this country needs then McCain. He's NOT what this country needs right now. And for some of you, our 2nd amendment right is more important than anything else, and i respect that. I have a safe full of C&R and new guns myself. But as i get older, i realize what i want isn't always the best for everyone else. I'm starting to think more about my kids and eventually their kids and what happens in the next 10-15 years right now will have HUGE impact on their lives. (in regards to energy, climate change and health care) I can maybe, just a little, let the grip on my guns slip a bit for this and safely vote Democratic. Since we JUST won Heller, i feel even more confident on this decision. (and i do recognize the irony that it was the conservative judges that won us Heller)

Really, it is simply time to pass the baton back to the other party for a while. It's all ebb and flow guys, it will eventually fall back to the repubs again.

And what cracks me up even more. If you look at history, Dems and Repubs were all ONE party at the forming of this nation. The "Democratic-Republican party". How did we fall so far from the same tree over the years.

I'm done. Thanks for letting me rant.

C


Your welcome, however we have along road ahead with regards to our 2A rights.

artherd
07-18-2008, 3:56 PM
And what cracks me up even more. If you look at history, Dems and Repubs were all ONE party at the forming of this nation. The "Democratic-Republican party". How did we fall so far from the same tree over the years.

Well put. Signature material.

CalNRA
07-18-2008, 4:02 PM
...
I'm done. Thanks for letting me rant.

C

where do you people keep coming from?:confused::confused:

berto
07-18-2008, 4:35 PM
And what cracks me up even more. If you look at history, Dems and Repubs were all ONE party at the forming of this nation. The "Democratic-Republican party". How did we fall so far from the same tree over the years.

I'm done. Thanks for letting me rant.

C

They aren't descended from the same party at all. The current Democratic party can loosely trace its roots to the Democratic-Republican party of yore. The current Republican party can be traced loosely to Lincoln and before him the Whigs and in their dreams the Federalists. The Dem-Rep was the party of Jefferson. The Federalists were the party of Adams and Hamilton. Trying to trace anything back is pretty futile though because the parties themselves have changed. A more recent example of this change the solid South controlled by the Democrats from reconstruction to Nixon and controlled by the Republicans since. The same voters who for generations had checked the Democrat box in essentially single party elections all of the sudden checked the Republican box for Nixon and have largely voted Republican since.

hill billy
07-18-2008, 5:26 PM
Bush is the worst president this country has ever had.

I believe in the long run history will disagree with you.

jumbopanda
07-18-2008, 5:39 PM
And yet if it weren't for Bush's Supreme Court nominees, we would have most likely lost Heller. Kinda funny isn't it?

RRangel
07-18-2008, 6:21 PM
Soap box alert:

We should have impeached Bush years ago for the crap he has gotten away with, regardless of his party affiliation. He is THE worst president I have experienced in my 37 years and with a little history review a lot further then that. Nixon is a saint next to this guy.

As far as Congress. We have a lame duck president and no way for either party to get majority votes. I'm a democrat personally,and I at least see the Dems trying to pass legislature to help Americans instead of Big Business or the ridiculous pissing contest over oil in the Middle East. (no disrespect to our Soldiers) Again, all this IMHO.

Bush just executive Veto's any sane legislature that gets through. So tell me how anyone wins in this situation? At least, AT LEAST, with a Democratic president, things will get rolling in this country again. Is Obama the BEST choice, dunno. I preferred Edwards myself but i have to believe in my heart that Obama is at least moving in a new direction this country needs then McCain. He's NOT what this country needs right now. And for some of you, our 2nd amendment right is more important than anything else, and i respect that. I have a safe full of C&R and new guns myself. But as i get older, i realize what i want isn't always the best for everyone else. I'm starting to think more about my kids and eventually their kids and what happens in the next 10-15 years right now will have HUGE impact on their lives. (in regards to energy, climate change and health care) I can maybe, just a little, let the grip on my guns slip a bit for this and safely vote Democratic. Since we JUST won Heller, i feel even more confident on this decision. (and i do recognize the irony that it was the conservative judges that won us Heller)

Really, it is simply time to pass the baton back to the other party for a while. It's all ebb and flow guys, it will eventually fall back to the repubs again.

And what cracks me up even more. If you look at history, Dems and Repubs were all ONE party at the forming of this nation. The "Democratic-Republican party". How did we fall so far from the same tree over the years.

I'm done. Thanks for letting me rant.

C

Having a extremist opinion doesn't make it ligitimate. If there was actually something to impeach president Bush on it would have been done already. Leave it to the left to push their negative spin campaign even on Calguns.

Gun rights are extremely important, if not the most important, for how else can a truly free people exist? It is exactly attitudes such as yours that have lead to the failures in California, and elsewhere in this great country.

With obfuscation by liberal politicians and help from the main stream media simple explanations similar to your post have become the norm. Never mind that freedom and prosperity have never been a normal default in society anywhere in the world, simply because you have work hard and earn them. Those on the left would have us believe otherwise. If they can only raise taxes and remove our ability to control our individual destiny then to them all is right in the world. There is not a country on the face of the globe that can ever be a success foisting a fairytale existence on its citizens.

One of the signs that the modern Democrats have gone off the deep end is their endless love affair for all that is Barack Obama, the messiah. A figure who by any normal standard really has no business being in the running for president.

I'm done. Thanks for letting me rant.

cbn620
07-19-2008, 12:38 AM
SHE DISLIKES THE POLICY OF OUR PRESIDENT, OFF WITH HER HEAD!

For real, I hate this woman and her politics as much as the next gun owner, but whats up with the witch hunt groupthink on these boards? God, I hear so much about people who have committed treason, are a danger to our country, are "siding with the terrorists." Give me a break.

Let's take some chill pills before we call for this kind of stuff.

giarcpnw
07-19-2008, 1:52 PM
Having a extremist opinion doesn't make it ligitimate. If there was actually something to impeach president Bush on it would have been done already. Leave it to the left to push their negative spin campaign even on Calguns.

Gun rights are extremely important, if not the most important, for how else can a truly free people exist? It is exactly attitudes such as yours that have lead to the failures in California, and elsewhere in this great country.

With obfuscation by liberal politicians and help from the main stream media simple explanations similar to your post have become the norm. Never mind that freedom and prosperity have never been a normal default in society anywhere in the world, simply because you have work hard and earn them. Those on the left would have us believe otherwise. If they can only raise taxes and remove our ability to control our individual destiny then to them all is right in the world. There is not a country on the face of the globe that can ever be a success foisting a fairytale existence on its citizens.

One of the signs that the modern Democrats have gone off the deep end is their endless love affair for all that is Barack Obama, the messiah. A figure who by any normal standard really has no business being in the running for president.

I'm done. Thanks for letting me rant.



Ok, I know we can beat on this horse all day long. It's politics and i won't try to change your mind or opinions.

I do feel however that in need to defend myself regarding something you said. Defend is a strong word. Let's say...clarify.

I agree one hundred percent that guns rights are important and that in order to remain a truly free people we need them. I'm from Texas. I grew up with them. No lip from me on this part. However, try not to assume all that all Democrats want to hand over their rights to the government. I, personally, have called and emailed every assembly member and the state senators in my districts on numerous occasions to fight ab2062, the lead ammo ban and other ridiculous and pointless anti gun measures in this state. I have plenty of Dem friends who did the same. I even voted for Arnold the first go round. I vote for what i believe is the best person or action to preserve the rights and privileges of not only myself but for all of us. It's not my country, it's OUR country.

And this is getting to my not so well explained point the first time. I have issues with folks who diligently stand up for one party because of one belief that overrides all other beliefs. And this goes for both sides. For the Republicans we have the militant 2nd Amendment voter and the Anti-gay/ anti-abortion religious fundamentalist among others. For the Dems we have the Militant anti-gun voter and the let's censor and rate every published or projected piece of media to protect our children people, among others etc. I don't always agree with EVERYTHING the democratic party has come to stand for and i bet, if you play fair, you can admit that you can find one or two things that the Republican party shelters that you don't agree with too.

It's not a black and white decision these days. And in the last 20 years both parties have moved closer to the middle and are not so strange bedfellows any more. But there are still things that each party stands for that has in one way or another helped and hurt this country. And this time around, i feel it is the republicans. The same policies of sheltering oil companies and big business that helped us achieve cheap oil and huge economic growth in the Reagan years has backfired this time and we're in an awful mess energy wise not to mention an uneccessary war over said oil that is starting to become the next Viet Nam. I'm not sure which side is to blame for the lending crisis. Probably both but since it involves big business i bet we can find a republican slant to it, but that is unsubstantiated. Remember what Carter did in the 70's to help with the oil embargo, smaller more efficient cars and alternative energy development? (although i think the 55mph limit was unneeded since i owned a 69 mustang at the time.) And it was working, then big business loving Gov came in...all that progress is lost now and we're in a bigger pinch.....

Well, now we're back around to the next ebb from the last flow. When i weigh the needs of the country as a whole and i look at how the oil is running out, the middle class is dwindling and the upper class is getting richer and how no one can afford health care and farmers are being hurt by their own subsidies (accept the current glut of chasing the dead end street of ethynol) and the climate is going to poo and education is at an all time low etc etc etc. And I compare who i believe will be the best party to take us into the next mode of repair, preparation and growth. I see, and this is me, the democrats taking us there quicker then the republicans. So i decide that i can lessen the grip on that gun a tad THIS go round so my children might have a country where they can still afford to eat AND defend themsleves because we might at that point...be back on track and less dependent on the middle east.

My god, that was not supposed to be that long.

I'm going to go clean my perfectly legal oll AR and listen to Springsteen and drink a Budweiser. (i will also recycle that can since i'm a left leaning hippy ;-)

Please counter point!

BroncoBob
07-19-2008, 2:33 PM
It is funny how this thread has progressed. When I first posted it, the only thing it was about was the total lack of respect for the President of the United States by the House Speaker Nancy Polesi. Somewhere party lines where being drawn. This was not the intent. The only reason I mentioned the 2A in a later response is because Polesi is so frinkin anti-gun. Now once again I'm no Bush lover, yes some of his polcies have not worked. By no means is it the fault of the President for the price of gas or the housing mortage bust. But I have respect fo the President of the United States. This is where this country is missing the bigger picture. As long as our elected officals fight among each other and show lack of respect for the highest office in this great country the more stupid we look to other nations. I'm proud to be an American, I'm proud of this great country and I exspecially proud of our men and women in uniform defending our rights and freedom. For those of you who are not, please go live somewhere else!

Now, my rant is done.

jumbopanda
07-19-2008, 2:45 PM
Respect is earned; you don't get it simply for holding political office. Pelosi is an idiot, there's no doubt about that. But since when is anyone obligated to respect a president regardless of how badly he may have screwed up?

CalNRA
07-19-2008, 11:25 PM
And yet if it weren't for Bush's Supreme Court nominees, we would have most likely lost Heller. Kinda funny isn't it?

why do have to bring gun topics into a gun forum? everyone knows it's not relevant.;)