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trinydex
07-15-2008, 10:28 PM
i want to buy a scope from liberty optics for my 18" varminter ar.

i'd like to learn the mildot system (prefereably the marine .25 mil dots)

i'd like some high quality optics wtih 50mm objective lens and about 15x max magnification.

i'm willing to spend around 1000 bucks, but i'd like to get the best value for the bucks.

mmm did i sell myself a leupold? is what i "asked for" a good option or combination of features?

LibertyOptics
07-16-2008, 9:19 AM
Hi,

What you want does exist and there are alternatives.

Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16x50 mildot about $599 delivered
Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x50 mildot tactical about $529 delivered
Nikon Monarch X 4-16x50 mildot $839 delivered
and Leupold 4.5-14x50 mildot M1 knobs $959 shipped

On the fringes: Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 mildot $259 shipped, IOR 16x42 mildot, $699 shipped

What type of/distance are you shooting?

I think for the best value, the Bushnells are tough to beat.

Scott

trinydex
07-16-2008, 12:17 PM
i hope to hunt squirrel critters some day, so anywhere between 50 and the limit of vision of little targets... i don't really know what that is for an xx mag scope.

my local range has a 200 yard area so i'd probably try to throw some rounds there too. not gonna to lie i'd probably end up using the scope for spotting occassionally.

are all the mildots the "standard" kind used in the military (marines) or are they proprietary or are they customizable (as a factory option)?

is there a quality difference between the bushnells and the nikon monarch?

LibertyOptics
07-16-2008, 12:41 PM
i hope to hunt squirrel critters some day, so anywhere between 50 and the limit of vision of little targets... i don't really know what that is for an xx mag scope.

my local range has a 200 yard area so i'd probably try to throw some rounds there too. not gonna to lie i'd probably end up using the scope for spotting occassionally.

are all the mildots the "standard" kind used in the military (marines) or are they proprietary or are they customizable (as a factory option)?

is there a quality difference between the bushnells and the nikon monarch?


16x will take you to the practical limits of your AR platform, easily good for 11x17 inch silhouettes to 1000 yards.

These are the round standard mildots, not the football shape.

Upper end Nikon and Bushnell are all made in Japan, and are safe, quality choices. Quality-wise, they are similar, which means the Bushnell are a better value, and probably has the edge in glass. The nikon does have nioce features, and if it was the older model tactical it would be a shoo-in. But i lean toward the Bushnell right now.

scott

trinydex
07-16-2008, 12:43 PM
awesome... who'da thunk the cheaper was the way to go. i'll place my order next month. still have to put some finishing touches on the ar.

thanks a lot scott.

uscbigdawg
07-16-2008, 12:45 PM
Just remember. Buy a good rifle with the money you have. Take a loan out for glass. Also, on magnification, more two legged critters have lost to a scope in the 3.5-10x range than probably any other magnification range.

Rich

trinydex
07-22-2008, 3:47 PM
hey Scott, is there any reason that nightforce was not on the radar for a little bit more than $1000?

LibertyOptics
07-22-2008, 8:59 PM
hey Scott, is there any reason that nightforce was not on the radar for a little bit more than $1000?

Yes, I considered 40-60% more to be more than a little bit...unless you are talking about the 2.5-10x24. In that case, I've never examined one to comment.


Scott