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technique
07-13-2008, 8:42 PM
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0044.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0045.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0046.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0047.jpg

m24armorer
07-13-2008, 8:59 PM
Ugly, it needs a AOW under the front.

technique
07-13-2008, 9:01 PM
Ugly, it needs a AOW under the front.

And....how much would I owe you for that???:p

acheron800
07-13-2008, 9:05 PM
More pics when I pickup next week!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/surfrippa/asdf.jpg

FEDUPWBS
07-13-2008, 9:15 PM
And....how much would I owe you for that???:p

M24 is not the hurt on that one. You need to contact Oaklander to have a trust setup so you can do NFA stuff. BTW as far as the tax stamp goes its only $5!.

technique
07-13-2008, 9:24 PM
I know alllllllllll about the trust....but Oaklander huh????? good to know!

DJMAN
07-13-2008, 10:57 PM
New one coming!!!!

AJAX22
07-13-2008, 11:01 PM
I started paperwork on mine yesterday :D

I'm going to be loaning a pair of singe shot uppers to the shop so they can use them for transfers while I'm out of state.

I can't wait to post pics of it though.... I have some homeade ones, but this will be the first one I've purchased.

One Shot, One Dropped
07-13-2008, 11:41 PM
Wait! So, they have to be single shot? Are you saying that they can't be semi-auto? What's the point of having a gun that you have to cock every shot? I thought you just had a semi-auto AR pistol.

acheron800
07-14-2008, 12:02 AM
Wait! So, they have to be single shot? Are you saying that they can't be semi-auto? What's the point of having a gun that you have to cock every shot? I thought you just had a semi-auto AR pistol.

As far as I know, and what I have learned, when you dros it whether is be an 80% lower (drosd as a pistol), or a pistol receiver (complete), it has to single shot, there is no law that says you cannot have a 10 rd mag in it AFTER it is drosd as a single shot pistol. So basically dros it, document it, then have fun!

AJAX22
07-14-2008, 12:03 AM
they have to be single shot at the time of transfer to avoid the drop safety test. ;)

once they are in your posession, there is no rule which states that they cannot be converted to semi auto

acheron800
07-14-2008, 1:24 AM
Quick question...Does this apply to us in any way, especially the pistols being shown here..?

(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

Or does this more refer to something like this?

http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/531/TEC-9.JPG

69Mach1
07-14-2008, 1:38 AM
Quick question...Does this apply to us in any way, especially the pistols being shown here..?

(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

Don't forget the beginning.
A semi-automatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any of the following:

acheron800
07-14-2008, 1:42 AM
Don't forget the beginning.
A semi-automatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any of the following:

10-4, its late...haha

Thanks!

kroniclove
07-14-2008, 1:51 AM
i have one important question. WHERE CAN I BUY AN AR15 PISTOL????

69Mach1
07-14-2008, 1:52 AM
Where are you located? PM me.

jeffyboy
07-15-2008, 5:09 PM
they have to be single shot at the time of transfer to avoid the drop safety test. ;)

once they are in your posession, there is no rule which states that they cannot be converted to semi auto

It's ok to do this? I thought I read somewhere that you can't legally converted a single shot upper to a semi. Is that incorrect?

NeoWeird
07-17-2008, 3:23 AM
M24 is not the hurt on that one. You need to contact Oaklander to have a trust setup so you can do NFA stuff. BTW as far as the tax stamp goes its only $5!.

Not quite. It's $5 to transfer an AOW but still $200 to manufacturer one. So if you are going the trust route to fill out paperwork so you can add a pistol grip to the front of your pistol it will still cost you $200 for the tax stamp. Now if you were buying a completed pistol from a SOT then it would cost you just $5 to transfer it because they already paid the proper taxes when they manufactured it.

As for the AR pistols, there is no law that says a pistol HAS to stay in the configuration you bought it in. So in order to legally buy an AR pistol it has to be a complete single shot only pistol at the time of transfer. Once it is in your posession, it is your responsability to keep it configured in a way that is legal. Case in point, you can't go and put a threaded barrel on your 1911 as you would have created an AW. However, you can add a threaded barrel if you fix the magazine or permanently attach something to the threads. So once you take posession of the AR pistol you can do whatever you want to it, including fixing a 10 round magazine in place, as long as it doesn't break the law.

So yes they are legal. Yes the upper CAN be modified. They basically follow the same rules as OLL rifles except the lengths and there is no such thing as a featureless pistol build.

m24armorer
07-17-2008, 10:31 PM
Almost right....

As a SOT we are tax exempt and dealer to dealer or 07 SOT is on a form 3. tax exempt.

We can configure your gun to AOW and transfer it back on a 5 buck stamp to your CA trust or Corp.

If you do it yourself you get the 200 dollar hit plus the time and the work.

Then again we don't work for free, but I'm sure we can save you money.

technique
07-18-2008, 12:02 AM
I Know some one selling two lowers right now. You would have to provide the rest of the parts for DROS.

Mississippi
07-19-2008, 12:18 AM
I may want one myself. But I would like a lower like yours. The gunsmith that built yours does GREAT custom work. ;)

acheron800
07-21-2008, 8:46 PM
I picked up today, and went to the range, no sights which sucked but we only threw a few down her, it was awesome. Had a couple of lookie loos, but overall it was fun, planning on a red dot not to expensive I would say. But anyway Ill get some pictures.

Can any of you guys post links to the info needed to explain how our pistols are legal. I have all the programs, maybe I can make a sort of AR pistol flow chart??? Or something along those lines, like a flyer. I want to keep it in the gun case along with AW ID flowchart with my other rifle..Thanks!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/surfrippa/P7210029.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/surfrippa/P7210032.jpg

acheron800
07-22-2008, 6:01 PM
I made this to keep i w my pistol....

Anything else you guys think I should add to it?

Or take off?

Thanks

hmangabat
07-22-2008, 9:17 PM
Can any one help me out in getting a ar15 pistol in the Sacramento area? My FFl dealer that i got my Lowers from Is not sure and new to the ar15 pistol thing?

Help!!!!

TheClap1
07-22-2008, 10:05 PM
I'm also interested, how much are we talking about here? I'm in the Hollywood area.

69Mach1
07-22-2008, 10:56 PM
I'm also interested, how much are we talking about here? I'm in the Hollywood area.

Basic set up runs about $900.

acheron800
07-30-2008, 11:29 PM
With new eotech...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/surfrippa/P7300056.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/surfrippa/P7300058.jpg

echoarms
07-31-2008, 7:07 PM
I want to build a 22lr version. Two questions:
Has anyone in Orange County found a place that will transfer single shot pistols?

How would you make a 22lr upper single shot?

Guntech
07-31-2008, 8:50 PM
I want to build a 22lr version. Two questions:
Has anyone in Orange County found a place that will transfer single shot pistols?


Doesn't have to be single shot if its .22 cal, only restriction for .22 cal is 10 round mags.

How would you make a 22lr upper single shot?

You could start by inventing one, I don't know of any .22 pistol uppers, and you would have to get a 1 round mag with a mag lock since they aren't gas operated

69Mach1
08-07-2008, 9:53 AM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/DSC03522.jpg

Still a top loader, soon to change. It's a fixed 10/30 with a 7.5 in barrel and a TruGlo red dot sight. I'm also waiting for my short pistol buffer tube.

TZL
08-07-2008, 2:55 PM
Damm these AR-pistol pics are making me what an AR-pistol

How do i go about that? start with a stripped lower or buy a complete one?

I'm assuming that these need to be BB'd right?

Do i need some kind of tax stamp?

Thanks in advance,

TZL

AJAX22
08-07-2008, 3:02 PM
Snorkie & Mr Wiggles

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/S5001360.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/S5001362.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/S5001366.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/S5001371.jpg

And a partially compleated so-so ar pistol

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/DCP_0525.jpg

GMONEY
08-07-2008, 3:06 PM
I would also like to know how to go about putting one of these together? Details please!!!

AJAX22
08-07-2008, 3:43 PM
Do you want to make your own lower or do you just want to show up to a gunstore with a fistfull of cash and buy one right off the shelf?

either way it can be done.

GMONEY
08-07-2008, 4:48 PM
Would like to make my own lower... Which ones can I get that will work?

AJAX22
08-07-2008, 7:29 PM
I think you might be confusing making your own with assembling your own gmony.

If you make your own, you need to machine the lower yourself (or be physically present while all work is performed on it, helping out as best you can)

If you're buying the lower itself it needs to be drosed as a pistol in the state of CA. you can do that either by getting a PPT from a Law enforcement officer or a new resident who brings them from out of state (personal handun importer) or you can have them assembled as a single shot with a barrel over 6 inches and an overall length greater than 10.5 inches so as to qualify for the single shot expemption to the drop safety testing regulations.

TZL
08-07-2008, 7:40 PM
If you go the single shot route, can you then convert it to semi-auto and BB it ? or do you have to keep it single shot?

...you can have them assembled as a single shot with a barrel over 6 inches and an overall length greater than 10.5 inches so as to qualify for the single shot expemption to the drop safety testing regulations.

69Mach1
08-07-2008, 10:12 PM
If you go the single shot route, can you then convert it to semi-auto and BB it ? or do you have to keep it single shot?

There's nothing to convert. It's still a semi-auto. Yes you have to use a BB or maglock on it. Don't have to keep it single shot. That's only for DROS for the exemption.

marxdspot
08-08-2008, 11:39 AM
That pistol is total sweetness, 69Mach1. Here's a link of mine in action. My friend giving it a go.

jId1Vz0WvgQ


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/DSC03522.jpg

Still a top loader, soon to change. It's a fixed 10/30 with a 7.5 in barrel and a TruGlo red dot sight. I'm also waiting for my short pistol buffer tube.

Mr.RoDiN
08-08-2008, 4:05 PM
would a semi auto config with a ten round magazine with bullet button be legal? Or would it have to be fixed mag, top loader?

69Mach1
08-08-2008, 11:07 PM
That pistol is total sweetness, 69Mach1. Here's a link of mine in action. My friend giving it a go.

jId1Vz0WvgQ

Dayamn! What a fireball! I like it. :D Can't wait to shoot mine. I should have known you already had one. Nice set up.

69Mach1
08-08-2008, 11:13 PM
would a semi auto config with a ten round magazine with bullet button be legal? Or would it have to be fixed mag, top loader?

They are both legal and considered the same. Both are fixed 10 round mag pistols. You must use a mag lock on these if they are going to be semi auto. Semi-auto with a detachable magazine located outside of the pistol grip is a CA assault weapon. Must also not exceed 10 rounds for the magazine.

marxdspot
08-08-2008, 11:36 PM
Dayamn! What a fireball! I like it. :D Can't wait to shoot mine. I should have known you already had one. Nice set up.

Thanks, bros. Cool thing is that although you have to snuggle up real close to the sight, there is very little recoil. So little, you don't have to worry about hitting the rear sight or the charging handle...hehehe...fun times! Let us know how yours works out with some pics!:43: Take care, bros!

69Mach1
08-08-2008, 11:46 PM
Thanks, bros. Cool thing is that although you have to snuggle up real close to the sight, there is very little recoil. So little, you don't have to worry about hitting the rear sight or the charging handle...hehehe...fun times! Let us know how yours works out with some pics!:43: Take care, bros!

I was going to get the very short pistol buffer tube for looks, but I like your version for ease of shooting. Now I can't decide. This bad boy is just under 6 pounds loaded without optics and about 6.5 pounds with the red dot sight. I've been taking supplements and hitting the gym preparing to go shoot this thing weaver style. I thought my Desert Eagle was heavy.:D

marxdspot
08-09-2008, 12:17 AM
Oh yeah...I have an Eotech on it and it does weigh quite a bit. I kinda gave up shooting it like a pistol and went rifle stance. So did everyone else.

I was going to go with the short buffer tube (i.e. the found on GSE website) too, but read too many people having FTF (etc) issues with it.

Have fun and safe shooting, bros.

Eric_Oh
08-09-2008, 1:17 AM
hey mark~! met you at angeles a while back. i remember that ar pistol you have had a huge flash. lol... looked like alot of fun. you oughta post up some more pics. catch ya next time.

69Mach1
08-09-2008, 2:25 AM
Any issues with using the CAR stock buffer tube?

marxdspot
08-09-2008, 7:22 AM
(eric_oh)
It was nice meeting you, too. Yeah, I brought a couple of family/friends along to shoot maybe 5-6 firearms that nite and so far the AR pistol was their favorite. Now some of their friends want to tag along next time to give it a go:eek:...fun times. Maybe I'll catch you there again soon. Take care & safe shooting.

****************

(69Mach1)
No issues. I was advised by a couple of arf.com builders to make sure to use a heavy buffer. The upper was built by Spike's Tactical. Prior to purchasing it, I asked Angela what Spike thought about the GSE Buffer tube set. (It can be found here: http://www.gunsmokeenterprises.net/AR15_Pistol_Kits_GSE.html). I figured I'd ask since both companies were in Florida and since she was familiar with their stuff. And, she said that it was a hit or miss. They did some testing with a variety of pistol uppers with the GSE short buffer set as they were hoping to use it as part of their kit packages, but it would work on some and some not. As a result, I went the safe route and went with the car tube and heavy buffer. By the way, would you want some foam padding for your buffer tube? I've got some extra. It does wonders if you decide that you wanna shoot it like a rifle instead of a pistol. I got the foam padding from a friend of mine in Maine, who owns a plant that makes them. I told him about my build and he sent me some high quality low rise rubber foam to cover up the buffer tube. I've got three choices. I could send you all three to try out to see what's to your liking. All you gotta do is remove the end cap, "lub the tube, and slip it on." :D It's low enough to clear the charging hand and it beats cheeking up to the metal and hearing the boing. PM me if you want it and I'll be glad to send it over, bros.:)

69Mach1
08-09-2008, 1:04 PM
Cool, thank you very much. No legal issues with the CAR stock buffer tube either.

dribbler
08-09-2008, 11:05 PM
perhaps someone can help me out. im curious as to what makes these different from an SBR, does that rule only apply to AR's? where the hell do i find the codes for this stuff?

69Mach1
08-09-2008, 11:10 PM
Because they're not rifles. They are marked and DROS'ed as pistols. There is no stock on these pistols either.

69Mach1
08-09-2008, 11:12 PM
...

69Mach1
08-09-2008, 11:13 PM
Here's a better pic with the CAR length pistol tube.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/DSC03636.jpg

xxG3xx
08-10-2008, 4:46 AM
doesn't look to bad with a car buffer but i wouldn't feel safe legal wise with that on there

DrunkSkunk
08-10-2008, 4:54 AM
Here's a better pic with the CAR tube.

Watch as it's recombined into a carbine.

Upper went on first, then the stock.

So you're the one that took my uppers

69Mach1
08-10-2008, 11:45 AM
doesn't look to bad with a car buffer but i wouldn't feel safe legal wise with that on there

There are no legal issues with using the original CAR tube. Here's an ATF letter.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/BiggBore/ATFEARPistolInternetletter.jpg
http://www.jcweaponry.com/images/ar15/BB.JPG

We've discussed a lot about CA laws, so lets talk about Federal laws.
For you fellow calgunners who are interested in getting an AR pistol, here are some rules to follow so that you do not violate Federal NFA laws.

If you don't already have an AR pistol receiver, but do have AR rifles/receivers, DO NOT HAVE AN AR PISTOL UPPER OR BARREL LESS THAN 16in SHIPPED TO YOU. You'll need to supply a pistol upper to complete the pistol for DROS, so to avoid danger have it shipped directly to your dealer.
If you don't have any AR rifles or receivers, you should be OK. Having an AR rifle with possession of an AR pistol upper or an AR barrel less than 16 inches is considered constructive possession of a short barreled rifle unless you also have an AR pistol receiver.

If you do not own any AR rifles/receivers, once you have your AR pistol, if you happen to be in possession of an AR butt stock without the rifle (16in barrel) upper, it is considered constructive possession of a short barreled rifle.

If you do own AR rifles and you take possession of your AR pistol, you can be in possession of butt stocks because they are spare parts for your AR rifle.

Solidsnake87
08-10-2008, 6:38 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Snorkie & Mr Wiggles

LOL Those are the most hilarious gun names I've ever heard!

JagerTroop
08-15-2008, 7:22 PM
...There are no legal issues with using the original CAR tube. Here's an ATF letter.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/BiggBore/ATFEARPistolInternetletter.jpg
http://www.jcweaponry.com/images/ar15/BB.JPG

I think you're wrong. The letter specifically states, "...possessing a rifle buttstock that could readily be installed on your pistol could constitute possession of a short barreled rifle."

Installing a stock onto your car buffer tube requires no tools, and can be done quite easily. I'd reconsider using it. I think your playing with fire.

AJAX22
08-19-2008, 9:34 AM
LOL Those are the most hilarious gun names I've ever heard!

If something can be bad*** with a name like "Mr. Wiggles" or "Snorkie" then you KNOW its F'ing Bad***

I could have named it the 'killamajig' or something, but then you wouldn't know if it was bad*** because of the name or because of what it is.


There's no confusion now.

69Mach1
08-19-2008, 10:29 AM
I think you're wrong. The letter specifically states, "...possessing a rifle buttstock that could readily be installed on your pistol could constitute possession of a short barreled rifle."

Installing a stock onto your car buffer tube requires no tools, and can be done quite easily. I'd reconsider using it. I think your playing with fire.

Yes, you could be if you can't explain what the extra butt stock is for. It's the same thing for the Glock carbine kits. The stock just attaches to the Glock's extra grip well, after you install the 16in barrel. However, I will go the extra mile and buy a pistol tube. By the way, even with the pistol tubes, you can still slip on an A1 or A2 stock.

AJAX22
08-19-2008, 8:28 PM
Yes, you could be if you can't explain what the extra butt stock is for. It's the same thing for the Glock carbine kits. The stock just attaches to the Glock's extra grip well, after you install the 16in barrel. However, I will go the extra mile and buy a pistol tube. By the way, even with the pistol tubes, you can still slip on an A1 or A2 stock.

The pistol buffer tube differs from the entry length buffer tube by not having the end threaded to accept a mounting screw.

Aditionally the foam sleve, when installed, prevents the buffer tube from being able to be inserted even accidentally into any form of rifle stock. (ace was a bit parinod about that apperently)

I've seen some guys wrap paracord over CAR stock buffer tubes to achieve the same effect.... constructive posession is alot harder to run afoul of with a pistol than with a rifle, but it can still be done.

DrunkSkunk
08-20-2008, 1:18 AM
Carbon . . . and look, it's even got a pistol tube instead of a CAR tube! All of mines have CAR tubes. it's just easier that way :)

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/drunkskunk12/pix470300437.jpg

CHIGGA73
08-20-2008, 11:02 AM
dang drunkskunk, looks good.

anyone pm me info on getting the ball rolling on a pistol AR.

I have AR rifles, so i can't buy a pistol upper and have it shipped to my house right? When i DROS the pistol AR it has to be complete (as seen in all of these beautiful pics) right?
so there is no buy the recievers and then parts kits, buffer tube, uppers, mags etc later right? All in one shot.

sorry for sounding new to this. i don't have the cash to drop down on a complete one, but would like to get this started.

thanks

Budd
08-20-2008, 12:11 PM
New to the AR laws - but been thinking of getting one. Better yet - in pistol form. So, if I have to get a single shot lower registered as a pistol - how do I convert it to open magwell with a BB?

technique
08-20-2008, 2:24 PM
buy a complete pistol, depending on your location you have several options with who to go with. NorCal- M24armorer, SoCal AR15barrels-sells kits.

Conversion is easy, put in your gas tube, or take out your mag block. Install a BB and 10rnd mag.

ROCKETW19
08-22-2008, 3:30 PM
great Info guys, Thanks for the time posting up your knowledge also.
A quick re-cap for me.
Get OLL DROSed as a pistol
Call AR 15 barrels or M24 have them make pistol upper
Install maglock with 10 rounder
Never install a stock
I think this is it but how can I get a pistol upper sent to me? wouldnt that be a SBR? or is it the case of its not a gun untill its put together. And as long as its put together the correct way Im good to go?
Like I said before I love this web-site and the people that help newbis like me.

Bowser
08-22-2008, 3:32 PM
I believe you must dros the pistol as a whole and not just a stripped receiver.

cseabass
08-23-2008, 2:58 PM
you can ppt a "frame".

Addax
08-26-2008, 6:54 PM
How about an Addax GPU 10.5" AR Pistol Upper...:43:

We are going to start building these in approx. 2 weeks, just waiting on some 10.5" barrels to arrive.

We are also looking at possibly building a 7.5" barreled version, but that is going to take some time to develop.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9807.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9809.jpg

Lateralus
08-26-2008, 8:26 PM
How about an Addax GPU 10.5" AR Pistol Upper...:43:

We are going to start building these in approx. 2 weeks, just waiting on some 10.5" barrels to arrive.

We are also looking at possibly building a 7.5" barreled version, but that is going to take some time to develop.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9807.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9809.jpg

:eek::eek::eek:

Im curious, how much would the 7.5" (if possible) be going for?? That is too sweet....

69Mach1
08-27-2008, 10:29 AM
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9807.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9809.jpg

Wow! That is just pure evil. :43:
Very nice.

ROCKETW19
08-27-2008, 10:32 AM
How about an Addax GPU 10.5" AR Pistol Upper...:43:

We are going to start building these in approx. 2 weeks, just waiting on some 10.5" barrels to arrive.

We are also looking at possibly building a 7.5" barreled version, but that is going to take some time to develop.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9807.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9809.jpg

Oh wow what is the price as shown, with flip up sights?
Kinda a funny question but how has you GPU been running? any problems?
special pre-order discounts? lol thanks bro.

Frijolito1988
08-27-2008, 11:36 AM
hey guys off topic

say i wanna build an AR pistol

is really doubt its the same as a ak pistol where you HAVE to build from a flat...what type of lower do you use? one that says multi ? ive heard that that some say pistol ? are they more expensive? can i use a regular lower ? thanks!

JagerTroop
08-27-2008, 5:49 PM
PMed you.

hey guys off topic

say i wanna build an AR pistol

is really doubt its the same as a ak pistol where you HAVE to build from a flat...what type of lower do you use? one that says multi ? ive heard that that some say pistol ? are they more expensive? can i use a regular lower ? thanks!

Addax
08-27-2008, 7:45 PM
Oh wow what is the price as shown, with flip up sights?
Kinda a funny question but how has you GPU been running? any problems?
special pre-order discounts? lol thanks bro.


Thanks RocketW19,

I will be posting prices up very soon on our AR Pistol GPU

Our GPU's have been running like a champ, and we have had some time to develop the different models of our uppers with PWS.

We also test fire each and every upper we build before we ship them out to ensure functionality.

brando
08-27-2008, 7:56 PM
Um...I want one.

trinydex
08-28-2008, 9:12 PM
How about an Addax GPU 10.5" AR Pistol Upper...:43:

We are going to start building these in approx. 2 weeks, just waiting on some 10.5" barrels to arrive.

We are also looking at possibly building a 7.5" barreled version, but that is going to take some time to develop.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9807.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9809.jpg

oh geez just what the dr ordered.

brando
08-28-2008, 9:26 PM
I'd almost be nervous of constructive possession with one of those sitting in my garage ;)

trinydex
08-28-2008, 10:50 PM
I'd almost be nervous of constructive possession with one of those sitting in my garage ;)

make sure it sits on a pistol lower with a b15 then :D

tyrist
08-29-2008, 9:31 AM
Anyway to get a stripped pistol receiver.....or do I need somebody with an AW permit to receive the pistol and install a BB for me.

ROCKETW19
08-29-2008, 10:20 AM
I'd almost be nervous of constructive possession with one of those sitting in my garage ;)

LOL I was thinking the same thing. How hard is it gonna be to not install it on your AR lower? Just resist, it will be hard but in no way would it be worth the trouble.

Hopi
08-29-2008, 2:28 PM
Check this out!

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll287/OSOD/IMG_0022a.jpg

Nice! Is it yours?

69Mach1
08-29-2008, 2:58 PM
.....

trinydex
08-29-2008, 5:26 PM
Thanks RocketW19,

I will be posting prices up very soon on our AR Pistol GPU

Our GPU's have been running like a champ, and we have had some time to develop the different models of our uppers with PWS.

We also test fire each and every upper we build before we ship them out to ensure functionality.

make sure to update us in this thread when the addax gpu pistol upper price is determined :D

lehn20
09-03-2008, 4:23 AM
GREAT!! more Addax sweetness. So now I have to save up for a 16", 10.5" and 7.5" GPU!! You guys are killing me!.

Addax
09-03-2008, 8:08 PM
GREAT!! more Addax sweetness. So now I have to save up for a 16", 10.5" and 7.5" GPU!! You guys are killing me!.

Thanks,

10.5 is the shortest I will be going for now...

lehn20
09-03-2008, 10:05 PM
For now:43:

technique
09-06-2008, 7:20 PM
Soon to be .338 spectre pistol:cool:
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/80001.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/80003.jpg

69Mach1
09-06-2008, 7:51 PM
Soon to be .338 spectre pistol:cool:
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/80001.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/80003.jpg

You bad, bad man. :D
What happened to the .50 Beowulf and 458 SOCOM projects?

technique
09-06-2008, 8:10 PM
You bad, bad man. :D
What happened to the .50 Beowulf and 458 SOCOM projects?

If this turns out good enough, the .458 is next. I already have the barrel, I ordered the .338 and .458 at the same time. I have a .458 rifle already and I'm really curious about this .338 spectre round. It looks like a good one for a pistol.:D

technique
09-08-2008, 12:08 PM
great place to put this AR/AK pistol info..

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=115364

Addax
09-08-2008, 1:49 PM
Soon to be .338 spectre pistol:cool:
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/80001.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/80003.jpg

OOOOHHHH YEAH! Nice!

Please keep us posted on your build.

69Mach1
09-18-2008, 12:36 AM
OK, I just got back from shooting the AR pistol for the first time. It was just incredibly fun. Check out the video.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/th_MOV03705.jpg (http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/?action=view&current=MOV03705.flv)

marxdspot
09-18-2008, 1:22 AM
SWEETNESS!!! Fireball!!!

Frijolito1988
09-18-2008, 12:26 PM
OK, I just got back from shooting the AR pistol for the first time. It was just incredibly fun. Check out the video.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/th_MOV03705.jpg (http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/?action=view&current=MOV03705.flv)

that is awsome, i so envy you right now! lol

Can you use a diffrent type of muzzle devize to make the fireball bigger :D

69Mach1
09-18-2008, 8:31 PM
Thanks Frijolito1988. I think no muzzle device will give you what you're looking for. :) I was having so much fun I forgot to get video of me shooting it weaver style. It was just as easy "dinging" those 100 yard plates shooting it offhand as it was when I used a cheek weld.

I also upgraded to FDE.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/DSC03719.jpg

It wasn't as loud as I thought it would be, and recoil was almost non-existent. Addax's AR carbine with a fake suppressor was louder than my pistol.

nanoer
09-21-2008, 1:58 PM
OK, I just got back from shooting the AR pistol for the first time. It was just incredibly fun. Check out the video.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/th_MOV03705.jpg (http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/?action=view&current=MOV03705.flv)

Nice pistol man!!! I hope to finish mine soon...

Addax
10-04-2008, 10:38 PM
Hello Everyone,

I completed testing of our 10.5" and 11.5" Gas Piston Uppers that can be used for AR Pistols.

For those of you who have been waiting, we plan on releasing 2 models this next week.

Thanks,
Chris

lehn20
10-04-2008, 11:43 PM
Awesome!

Addax
10-05-2008, 2:37 AM
Here are some pics from my recent trip up to Idaho to test our uppers with Primary Weapons Systems.

Thanks to PWS, we were able to use their registered Full Auto SBR lower receiver to conduct our testing in full and semi auto testing.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_0146-1.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_0154.jpg



(Please Note: The pictures were taken in Idaho with Primary Weapons Systems, using their registered Full Auto and SBR lower receiver).

xxG3xx
10-05-2008, 1:22 PM
^^^^

well that just looks amazing....cant wait to be able to pick one up

swift
10-05-2008, 2:35 PM
I've been reluctant to shoot an AR pistol with my cheek on the short buffer tube. How safe is shooting it the way you did it in the video? Should I be aware of anything in particular before trying it?

I've read that the charging handle can hit a shooter in the nose when shooting this way. Have you experienced this?

technique
10-05-2008, 3:32 PM
I've been reluctant to shoot an AR pistol with my cheek on the short buffer tube. How safe is shooting it the way you did it in the video? Should I be aware of anything in particular before trying it?

I've read that the charging handle can hit a shooter in the nose when shooting this way. Have you experienced this?

First, the charging handle shouldn't hit you in the nose because its not a moving part, if it did, it would be your own fault for not closing it.....it really shouldn't though.

That is my preferred method of firing an AR pistol. It is comfortable, nothing to worry about.

marxdspot
10-05-2008, 6:04 PM
I've been reluctant to shoot an AR pistol with my cheek on the short buffer tube. How safe is shooting it the way you did it in the video? Should I be aware of anything in particular before trying it?

I've read that the charging handle can hit a shooter in the nose when shooting this way. Have you experienced this?


I have an AR pistol. I agree, that with a 16-20" rifle, there is enough recoil that if you were to place your cheek/nose close up to the charging handle, it'll take a jab at you. However, I guess because of the short barrel of an AR pistol, there isn't really much of a recoil. I have a 7" barrelled upper. I don't use a muzzle brake on my AR pistol, and the recoil is almost negligent that you could place your cheek/nose close up and you won't get hurt. Watch my friend up close in this vid of my AR pistol. Watch the recoil and how close he is to the charging handle.

jId1Vz0WvgQ

Addax
10-05-2008, 10:27 PM
I have an AR pistol. I agree, that with a 16-20" rifle, there is enough recoil that if you were to place your cheek/nose close up to the charging handle, it'll take a jab at you. However, I guess because of the short barrel of an AR pistol, there isn't really much of a recoil. I have a 7" barrelled upper. I don't use a muzzle brake on my AR pistol, and the recoil is almost negligent that you could place your cheek/nose close up and you won't get hurt. Watch my friend up close in this vid of my AR pistol. Watch the recoil and how close he is to the charging handle.

jId1Vz0WvgQ


Wait until you see my full auto video clip shooting the 10.5 one handed.

I am using the Addax Bulldog FSC Comp.:D

You won't be too worried about recoil when shooting one shot at a time.

fpasuncion
10-06-2008, 7:20 AM
Hi everyone! I'm new to Calguns. I just completed my first AR rifle build...now i've got the bug for a pistol. :D Where can I get myself an AR pistol? I understand it having to be a single shot and be built out-of-state...but how do I go about finding someone that'll build it...then ship it back to california? Or...any dealers out there that have 'em already built with the mag block and mag lock?

marxdspot
10-06-2008, 7:26 AM
Wait until you see my full auto video clip shooting the 10.5 one handed.

I am using the Addax Bulldog FSC Comp.:D

You won't be too worried about recoil when shooting one shot at a time.

OOOOH, the suspense. Can't wait to see that! Gotta say, Addax, I LOVE YOUR JOB! You taking applications/interviews...j/k;)

tacticalcity
10-17-2008, 12:37 AM
So you can't just DROS a "pistol only" lower without the upper? That seems odd to me, but then again most of California's gun laws are really odd.

marxdspot
10-17-2008, 12:41 AM
So you can't just DROS a "pistol only" lower without the upper? That seems odd to me, but then again most of California's gun laws are really odd.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you have to have a complete pistol with a fix bobsled mag installed and absolutely no stock or stock receivable buffer tube upon the date of DROS.

tacticalcity
10-17-2008, 12:48 AM
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you have to have a complete pistol with a fix bobsled mag installed and absolutely no stock or stock receivable buffer tube upon the date of DROS.

I thought the problem with semi-auto uppers was they would not pass the drop test with a pistol buffer tube and so that is why they do them single shot. I didn't think it was about the capacity. But I have no idea. I am totally new to the AR pistol thing. I'm asking, not telling.

trinydex
10-17-2008, 12:51 AM
it's not semi auto if it's single shot...

tacticalcity
10-17-2008, 1:19 AM
Will a normal pistol length upper pass the drop test with a bobsled magazine fixed in place with a maglock?

I got the impression that in order to pass the drop test you had to modify the upper in some way (not sure how) so that it is no longer gas operated and will no longer cycle rounds on its own.

Legal definition is not what I am concerned about. I am concerned about when they physically drop it from whatever height they drop it from to test it will it go "click".

From what little I've been able to grasp from the earlier posts, the only reason they even reference them as single shot is in order to pass the drop test. Of course, I don't totally get how the drop test works or how having a gas operated upper verse one that no longer cycles rounds automatically would effect the results. So I'm pretty much just a ball of confusion at this point.

I hope I am totally wrong and all I need is a bobsled magazine, maglock, pistol only off list lower, and a normal pistol length rifle kit.

Also, where is a good place to pickup a Pistol Only Off List Lower? I did not see them on ColdWarShooters.com or on TenPercentFirearms.com, which are my usual sources for lowers (figured they would appriciate a plug anyways).

69Mach1
10-17-2008, 1:23 AM
There's an exemption to the drop test if the pistol is a single shot. Either install the fixed one shot mag, or remove the gas tube.

tacticalcity
10-17-2008, 1:31 AM
There's an exemption to the drop test if the pistol is a single shot. Either install the fixed one shot mag, or remove the gas tube.

Thank you! Now I get it! That was the missing piece of the puzzle. Boy do I feel silly, but that is nothing new. ;)

Now, where can I get an "off list pistol only lower"?

I do not have my FFL so am I going to have to have it all shipped to somebody who does and have them assemble it for me before they can DROS it to me?

trinydex
10-17-2008, 12:07 PM
Thank you! Now I get it! That was the missing piece of the puzzle. Boy do I feel silly, but that is nothing new. ;)

Now, where can I get an "off list pistol only lower"?

I do not have my FFL so am I going to have to have it all shipped to somebody who does and have them assemble it for me before they can DROS it to me?

mega makes a pistol only lower. you will have to find someone in ca that carries them (mega dealer). you will then have to find them a bob sled (if they don't already have one). then you need to bring an upper (any upper), an lpk with maglock (BB, B15, P50) and buffer tube ASSEMBLY (SANS STOCK) and assemble the gun at the store before dros. then dros it as a (single shot) pistol. then come back ten days later and pick it up and thank them for being so accomodating.

there are other ways to get an ar pistol. this is only one way and probably the way to go if you want a mega pistol only marked lower.

CalGuns
10-17-2008, 5:12 PM
isnt the best looking ar pistol, but here it is...

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q76/keakster/DSC01563.jpg

technique
10-17-2008, 5:15 PM
Nice pistol Calguns!

sorensen440
10-17-2008, 5:20 PM
I think I'm going to need one of those they look like a lot of fun
how is the recoil and accuracy on one of those compared to other pistols?

Frijolito1988
10-17-2008, 5:21 PM
I think i shall build my 80% fairly soon , or fire one!! lol

inda_bebe
10-20-2008, 11:33 AM
isnt the best looking ar pistol, but here it is...

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q76/keakster/DSC01563.jpg

did you spray paint your receiver? its looks pretty glossy. i was thinking about painting mine and forgeting about the duracoat.

CalGuns
10-23-2008, 12:29 AM
did you spray paint your receiver? its looks pretty glossy. i was thinking about painting mine and forgeting about the duracoat.


yeah it was a glossy paint, i didnt like the look... so my next color would be silver. pictures will be posted again (soon).

speeddreamz
10-23-2008, 12:53 AM
Can someone clarify as far as registering as a single shot pistol, the whole process from start to finish. i.e. do you start with a pistol marked lower reciever.

Frijolito1988
10-23-2008, 8:45 AM
You CANNOT import just a "Pistol lower" the only way you are going to get a "pistol lower" into CA is either

a)build one
b)have a LEO transfer to you
c)you CAN buy a complete AR pistol from out of state and have them ship it to you with

1)bullet button
2)10 round magazine
3) single shot in order to dros

CHS
10-23-2008, 11:18 AM
You CANNOT import just a "Pistol lower" the only way you are going to get a "pistol lower" into CA is either

a)build one
b)have a LEO transfer to you
c)you CAN buy a complete AR pistol from out of state and have them ship it to you with


Or just wait till the new 4473 :)

trinydex
10-23-2008, 1:01 PM
Spikes website states they do not ship to CA. Does anyone know any other sources? Or is anyone selling a complete ar pistol or lower

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=119426&highlight=lower

i'm wrong it's a mega lower, Frijolito1988 is the one that found the information.

let me change my original post.

You CANNOT import just a "Pistol lower" the only way you are going to get a "pistol lower" into CA is either

a)build one
b)have a LEO transfer to you
c)you CAN buy a complete AR pistol from out of state and have them ship it to you with

1)bullet button
2)10 round magazine
3) single shot in order to dros

who do you mean by you? can an ffl import just the lowers? because it already happened in that other thread right?

Frijolito1988
10-23-2008, 1:10 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=119426&highlight=lower

i'm wrong it's a mega lower, Frijolito1988 is the one that found the information.

let me change my original post.



who do you mean by you? can an ffl import just the lowers? because it already happened in that other thread right?

FFL's could have them, but i belive cannot sell them as just lowers, example, you buy one at an FFL that carrys them , then when you buy it before startign dross take EVERYTHIGN you need tobuild a pistol LPK, UPPER, buffer tube, bullet button & bobsled/1round magazine THEN when its a complete pistol , you start the dros

trinydex
10-23-2008, 1:11 PM
yeah ok, same page

CalGuns
10-23-2008, 6:57 PM
repainted the glossy black look to silver. added pistol tube.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q76/keakster/DSC01578.jpg

till44
10-23-2008, 10:43 PM
So if I pick up a lower like this http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=113900911 and then have it shipped to my Dad in Idaho and have him put it together and then have him send it here with a bullet button it should be all legal right? Or is there an easier way? Could it just be sent to my FFL here where I put it all together before the DROS?

xxG3xx
10-23-2008, 10:50 PM
that just sounds like a hassle to me and im not sure if thats legal...there are OLL pistol dealers all over CA...if you live in socal you should check out edited out per ffl request..they have pistol lowers and they can help you out with any info you need. last time i went there i learned alot...another thing..bring money :)

i dont own it ( i made it on the larue site ) but i will one day

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/xxG3xx/ARpistol.jpg

basing110
10-23-2008, 11:54 PM
so can you dros a single shot pistol with your standard 16" upper on it then purchase a pistol upper afterwards and put it on?

69Mach1
10-23-2008, 11:55 PM
so can you dros a single shot pistol with your standard 16" upper on it then purchase a pistol upper afterwards and put it on?

Yes.

basing110
10-24-2008, 12:05 AM
searching around for a pistol marked lower and spikes says they cannot ship to ca .. where else can i have my ffl pick up a pistol marked lower? also how are you guys making it single shot? just making a block of wood lock into teh mag well?

trinydex
10-24-2008, 12:09 AM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=119426

this has a lotta information

69Mach1
10-24-2008, 12:16 AM
also how are you guys making it single shot? just making a block of wood lock into teh mag well?

BobSLED "Magazine," Solid Delrin, for Single Loading
Approved for NRA Service Rifle and NRA Match Rifle!
Makes single loading in slow fire quick & easy
Ball detent engages bolt catch
http://www.fulton-armory.com/BobSled-197H_50.jpg
http://www.fulton-armory.com/M6Tools.htm

basing110
10-24-2008, 12:29 AM
sweet thanks .. ill be calling up my ffl and see if hes willing to order one up and x fer

inda_bebe
10-24-2008, 8:38 AM
http://webmail.aol.com/39598/aol/en-us/Mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=1.24147065&folder=Inbox&partId=2

http://webmail.aol.com/39598/aol/en-us/Mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=1.24147038&folder=Inbox&partId=2

basing110
10-24-2008, 10:00 AM
so as long as it is a fixed mag single shot i can have a 16" upper on it with the rails correct?

trinydex
10-24-2008, 12:39 PM
make sure it doesn't have any foregrips

till44
10-24-2008, 2:41 PM
If I can talk my FFL into accepting a designated pistol lower, then I can install the the lpk, upper, and bullet button at his place right? and after t he ten day wait I can pick it up?

alex00
10-24-2008, 10:51 PM
Spikes website states they do not ship to CA. Does anyone know any other sources? Or is anyone selling a complete ar pistol or lower

I ordered my Spikes pistol marked lower from Lanworld. They had no problems shipping it to an FFL in CA.

xxG3xx
10-24-2008, 11:18 PM
yea it just has to be dros as a single shot so it would have to be put together

till44
10-24-2008, 11:27 PM
I ordered my Spikes pistol marked lower from Lanworld. They had no problems shipping it to an FFL in CA.

I checked Lanworld but didn't see a pistol lower. Do you have the link?

xxG3xx
10-24-2008, 11:32 PM
give Chris a call he can get you ANYTHING! 1-801-878-4880

till44
10-25-2008, 3:38 PM
What was the price on the lower? I am trying to get Anvil Arms to ship, Jon said he would look into shipping to CA. His pistol lowers are $100 with custom lazer engraving. Add a LPK and heavy buffer and the whole setup runs $250, he will accomodate and remove the pistol grip for orders as well.

alex00
10-25-2008, 6:11 PM
What was the price on the lower? I am trying to get Anvil Arms to ship, Jon said he would look into shipping to CA. His pistol lowers are $100 with custom lazer engraving. Add a LPK and heavy buffer and the whole setup runs $250, he will accomodate and remove the pistol grip for orders as well.

My lower was $145 shipped. $120 for lower, $15 for shipping and $10 for DOJ import fees. I'm not including the $200 gas bill to make two trips to an FFL that would do the transfer:D.

The lower was not listed on the website, but a call to Chris will get you anything you want. As long as he deals with a company he can get just about anything.

till44
10-27-2008, 10:46 AM
... and now for the Upper. Where to get one? I have emails into spikes, larue, and anvil asking for estimates on custom jobs. Any places I may have missed? I'll post prices when I get them. :28:

Frijolito1988
10-27-2008, 10:52 AM
... and now for the Upper. Where to get one? I have emails into spikes, larue, and anvil asking for estimates on custom jobs. Any places I may have missed? I'll post prices when I get them. :28:

some to think about

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=113933247

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=114376097

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=114376546

Frijolito1988
10-27-2008, 10:54 AM
this is an extremely good deal, make sure you dont use the front grip on your pistol bulid though

.. NVM MUST BOUGH IT LOL sorry , the rest are good deals though

69Mach1
10-27-2008, 10:38 PM
They might. Since the uppers are not regulated like a firearm/receiver they can ship it to you, that is if they don't have a stick up the butt about shipping something so evil into CA. By the way, if you own an AR rifle or rifle receiver, do not have the short barrel uppers shipped to you. Have them ship it to the dealer handling your AR pistol transfer.

till44
10-28-2008, 8:35 PM
just recieved an email from Jon at Anvil Arms... He said he is willing to ship AR pistol lowers in CA IF...you send him a bullet button and "bobsled" mag. Send him off an e-mail to work this out with him if you are interested. Also, they will be releasing AR pistol complete uppers within the next 90 days 7.5 bbls, no quote on price yet.

alex00
10-28-2008, 9:32 PM
just recieved an email from Jon at Anvil Arms... He said he is willing to ship AR pistol lowers in CA IF...you send him a bullet button and "bobsled" mag. Send him off an e-mail to work this out with him if you are interested. Also, they will be releasing AR pistol complete uppers within the next 90 days 7.5 bbls, no quote on price yet.

That seems like more trouble than its worth, sending him a BB and sled. The lower can't be drosed by itself, and until it's assembled it is not a pistol. I don't think there is an easy way to convince an out of state seller about our silly laws. Unless his price is super low, it may be worth using someone that doesn't make you go through extra steps causing a delay in time, and money.

till44
10-28-2008, 10:46 PM
That seems like more trouble than its worth, sending him a BB and sled. The lower can't be drosed by itself, and until it's assembled it is not a pistol. I don't think there is an easy way to convince an out of state seller about our silly laws. Unless his price is super low, it may be worth using someone that doesn't make you go through extra steps causing a delay in time, and money.

I need another Bullet Button anyways and a sled mag... the only difference is I send them to him instead of to me... His lowers are top notch, come with custom free lazer engraving, and are only $100, add a parts kit with heavy buffer and it is $250. I'll pay the extra to get his quality and not have to worry about assembling the lower at my FFL. And time won't be any longer than ordering from another dealer.

alex00
10-29-2008, 1:04 AM
I need another Bullet Button anyways and a sled mag... the only difference is I send them to him instead of to me... His lowers are top notch, come with custom free lazer engraving, and are only $100, add a parts kit with heavy buffer and it is $250. I'll pay the extra to get his quality and not have to worry about assembling the lower at my FFL. And time won't be any longer than ordering from another dealer.

Sweet. That sounds like a great deal.

speeddreamz
11-01-2008, 11:13 AM
Can anyone tell me about the usability and ballistics on AR Pistols?

I am looking at 7.5 " and 10.5 " using 5.56/.223

Someone told me the bullet assumes its being shot out of at least 12 ".

How would this effect accuracy, power, usability etc.

technique
11-01-2008, 12:21 PM
Can anyone tell me about the usability and ballistics on AR Pistols?

I am looking at 7.5 " and 10.5 " using 5.56/.223

Someone told me the bullet assumes its being shot out of at least 12 ".

How would this effect accuracy, power, usability etc.

well you obviously loose muzzle velocity the shorter you go but accuracy is pretty good. I'm happy with my 7in barrel. I can hit a steel man at 100yrds and I'm happy with that. Now if it still has enough energy to kill when it gets there is another story. But either way, the first hit will slow em down enough to pop off a few more.:)

Tumerboy
11-01-2008, 12:44 PM
MOAR PITCHURS!

JagerTroop
11-03-2008, 8:20 PM
MOAR PITCHURS!

Ok... here you go.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/SiksPak88/IMG_0556.jpg

Still debating on which muzzle brake to get. I have a Piggy FH, but I think I wanna go with a brake on this one.

No bolt catch installed... waiting till after I apply a bake-on enamel.

and still need a BUIS/optics.

Frijolito1988
11-03-2008, 8:22 PM
Ok... here you go.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/SiksPak88/IMG_0556.jpg

Still debating on which muzzle brake to get. I have a Piggy FH, but I think I wanna go with a brake on this one.

No bolt catch installed... waiting till after I apply a bake-on enamel.

and still need a BUIS/optics.

Dont put a muzzle brake or flash hider, leave it like that to have monster fire balls :cool:

inda_bebe
11-04-2008, 9:56 AM
Bro, i used primer and then the duplicolor high heat engine paint that you could only find at pepboys, then i just baked it at 375 degrees for 3 hrs. the finished turned out solid. matches my upper pretty good, and doesnt scratch.

thats, if your trying to go the cheap way. ive been doing this to my AK's since ever since.

JagerTroop
11-04-2008, 6:58 PM
I went with the Brownells Baking Lacquer. It was only 15 bucks. I may try your method on my AK.

dribbler
11-08-2008, 12:49 PM
hey, quick question, since these are not rifles, they dont need bullet buttons correct? i see bullet buttons, but these are legally pistols?

40caldeserteagle
11-08-2008, 1:24 PM
hey, quick question, since these are not rifles, they dont need bullet buttons correct? i see bullet buttons, but these are legally pistols?

I'm pretty sure they need the bullet button because the magazine is located outside of the grip. I'll be correctly shortly if I am wrong. A quick search here will lead you to the PC.

David F.

AJAX22
11-08-2008, 1:24 PM
you need a way to pin the mag on semi autos since a pistol with a detachable magazine outside of the grip is an assult weapon.

you also need to keep the fixed mag at 10 rounds or less.

ENTHUSIAST
11-08-2008, 1:27 PM
hey, quick question, since these are not rifles, they dont need bullet buttons correct? i see bullet buttons, but these are legally pistols?

Because a detachable mag outside of the Pistol Grip on a pistol is an an AW.

Fixed mags are OK outside of the PG.

JagerTroop
11-08-2008, 11:44 PM
**UPDATED**

Ahhh.. there, that looks a little better :)

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/SiksPak88/IMG_0565.jpg

IH8CALAWS
11-09-2008, 12:40 AM
After being converted to semi-auto does the muzzle device need to be permanently attatched so the barrel threads are un-useable?

69Mach1
11-09-2008, 12:43 AM
NO. An AR pistol in CA must have a locked 10 round mag configuration at all times. With a non-detachable magazine pistol, a threaded barrel is not an issue.

LIFEWITHOUT
11-24-2008, 2:02 AM
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0044.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0045.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0046.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0047.jpg

where's the second one for your other hand? no double fisted?

brokestudent12
11-24-2008, 2:16 AM
Cool

freakshow10mm
12-06-2008, 11:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/freakshow10mm/Guns/PC030051.jpg

69Mach1
12-07-2008, 12:29 AM
Nice, and thanks for making them available.

freakshow10mm
12-07-2008, 11:03 AM
I have a bunch more kits coming. Should have close to a dozen pistols ready to buy close to the end of December.

technique
12-09-2008, 10:36 PM
coming soon in tan.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/tanpitol.jpg

Addax
12-09-2008, 11:43 PM
What do you guys think of a 10.5" Side Charging Addax Gas Piston AR Pistol Upper?

I have already released and sold these in very limited numbers, mainly to LEO's (as SBR's), but I am planning on releasing this model on our website soon.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/SideCharger105GPU.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/105SideChargerGPU.jpg

gunrun45
12-09-2008, 11:50 PM
Is that a piston upper with a side charger!
Either way, you will get plenty of sales between here and ARF.
Side chargers with non-reciprocating handles are the cat's meow man. Entry teams would love this upper. I think you could sell a ton of them. Heck, I'd buy one.

Sorry, just checked the price. Its out of my ball park of affordable. I'm sure they are very high quality products though. I know of no one else who offers a side charger piston design!

cleanguy46
12-10-2008, 6:41 AM
coming soon in tan.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/tanpitol.jpg

Man Tech thats looking pretty sick! One of your newest creations?

Addax
12-10-2008, 1:14 PM
Is that a piston upper with a side charger!
Either way, you will get plenty of sales between here and ARF.
Side chargers with non-reciprocating handles are the cat's meow man. Entry teams would love this upper. I think you could sell a ton of them. Heck, I'd buy one.

Sorry, just checked the price. Its out of my ball park of affordable. I'm sure they are very high quality products though. I know of no one else who offers a side charger piston design!

Thanks,

We sold out of our Side Charging GPU's at the SAR show.

The Side Charging GPU's we are going to release are going to be offered as one of our Combat Elite Series GPU's.

basing110
12-10-2008, 5:18 PM
can you still use a tool to drop a mag so you can attach a new loaded mag on these ar pistols?

freakshow10mm
12-10-2008, 5:51 PM
Yes. I have one such pistol for sale at $1099.

technique
12-11-2008, 3:01 PM
Man Tech thats looking pretty sick! One of your newest creations?

Sure is...I'll bring it up to Sac with me next time....;)

spdrcr
12-12-2008, 10:57 AM
Ok... here you go.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/SiksPak88/IMG_0556.jpg

Still debating on which muzzle brake to get. I have a Piggy FH, but I think I wanna go with a brake on this one.

No bolt catch installed... waiting till after I apply a bake-on enamel.

and still need a BUIS/optics.

How did you engrave the Safe, Fire, Pistol, Caliber, and SN?

BTW, your finished product looks great.

Addax
12-15-2008, 1:15 AM
Is that a piston upper with a side charger!
Either way, you will get plenty of sales between here and ARF.
Side chargers with non-reciprocating handles are the cat's meow man. Entry teams would love this upper. I think you could sell a ton of them. Heck, I'd buy one.

Sorry, just checked the price. Its out of my ball park of affordable. I'm sure they are very high quality products though. I know of no one else who offers a side charger piston design!

Here is a special 11.5 Addax GPU Pistol Upper on my personal Spikes Pistol Lower.

This is a one of kind set up, but I might make a few more in the near future.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/ADDAXSIDECHARGINGCASVGPU2.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/ADDAXSIDECHARGINGCASVGPU.jpg


Btw, our GPU Side Charger Uppers will start at $1399 inc. the pistol side charger GPU, which is not a bad price considering what you will be getting.
Sabre Defense Barrel, DD M4 FSP Rail, Billet 7075 Side Charging upper, FSC Bulldog comp, Piston System.;)

69Mach1
12-15-2008, 2:04 AM
Wow! That is a beauty Addax. Has she been to the range yet?

gunrun45
12-15-2008, 3:48 AM
Wow!
absolutely Wow. I'm sure they are worth every penny, I just can't afford them for what I use them for these days.

Addax
12-15-2008, 1:43 PM
Wow! That is a beauty Addax. Has she been to the range yet?

Yup, :43:

iBlake
12-17-2008, 6:12 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/freakshow10mm/Guns/PC030051.jpg

This is a beautiful, simple little pistol, I really like it! :D

technique
12-18-2008, 7:54 PM
Before
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0044-1.jpg


After
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/tanpistol.jpg



crappy iPhone pic.

sv_1
12-20-2008, 8:58 PM
After being converted to semi-auto does the muzzle device need to be permanently attatched so the barrel threads are un-useable?

What's the word? How do you do this? Should I fire up the TIG before removing the sled, etc.?

Hopi
12-20-2008, 9:02 PM
What's the word? How do you do this? Should I fire up the TIG before removing the sled, etc.?

semi auto AR pistols must be fix-mag or BB equipped. That will allow you to have a threaded barrel and/or FH.

69Mach1
12-23-2008, 11:18 PM
Wow, that's nice. Congratulations, and it's about time.

pacrimguru
12-24-2008, 9:30 AM
... it's about time.

haha, damn skippy! thanks!

basing110
12-24-2008, 12:31 PM
nice .... i need to get a nice optic for mine still .. how you like that red dot? i got a rdp2 off my sniper rifle but it seems like it does not sit high enough

tpfishnfool
12-27-2008, 9:54 AM
With new eotech...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/surfrippa/P7300056.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/surfrippa/P7300058.jpg


Hey man !! I shot that bad boy !! What up barry ?

pacrimguru
12-28-2008, 6:46 PM
nice .... i need to get a nice optic for mine still .. how you like that red dot? i got a rdp2 off my sniper rifle but it seems like it does not sit high enough

i haven't actually used this red dot yet. i do like it though but i'm not sure how well it would hold up on a .223. it should do well on something like a .22LR.

till44
01-26-2009, 9:42 AM
It finally came and I can finally contribute to this thread instead of just looking.

Specs:
- Anvil Arms complete pistol lower with custom etching (including LPK, heavy buffer, and sling mount).
- RRA upper
- Tac Latch CH
- YHM free float carbine quad rail
- Phantom FS
- Ergo grip
- Troy irons
- Surefire G2 on a CAA 5 position flashlight mount
- Wilderness single point sling
- Bullet Button w/ 10/20 PMAG

The total length on it is about 22 inches.

In the future I plan on some FDE ladder rail covers, red dot, FDE PMAG, and too fill in the Anvil Arms logo with an FDE paint.

gosparx
02-15-2009, 2:08 PM
Some nice looking pistols here!! Thanks for giving me MORE ideas... NOT!! (Who needs to eat anyway!???!)

Here's my little babies.... (or as my friend calls them "Satan's child's toys"!
The AR-15 Pistol
17298

17299

The AR-15 Pistol is built on an 80% lower that I made, a side cocking upper with a STG Supply barrel, a Gun Smoke Enterprises buffer spring, and a Noveske KX3 FirePig.

The AR-15 Pistol was DuraCoated by Drew at Airbrush Armory!!

Now I just have to learn to hit the broad side of a barn with it!!!


The ST-22 Pistol
17300

17301

The ST-22 is built on an 80% lower that I made, has a Spike's Tactical Upper and a Noveske KX3 FirePig.

I had some problems with the ST-22 at first (wouldn't load or cycle properly... but I believe I have those problems solved)

As opposed to the AR-15, this gun is a joy to shoot!! I just wish I could have one in full auto!!! But that's not going to happen in this wonderful State!!!

And I am planning on having the ST-22 painted in a classic Colt Dark Olive Green w/ the rails and other smaller parts in black.

To be honest, the lower on the ST-22 is one of the first ones I ever did and it has some pretty major flaws that would have prevented it being used in any .223 pistol or other firearm, but those specific flaws become moot in a 22LR. (Thankfully!!!!)

titus7
02-15-2009, 11:44 PM
Has anyone been harrassed by LE, or range workers for these????? Im chompin at the bit wanting to get one just a lil nervous as I have already had to deal with the BLM on an OLL rifle

gosparx
02-16-2009, 1:00 AM
I've been to three different ranges. Two outdoor (A Place to Shoot & Angeles Range plus the Burbank Firing Line) Angeles didn't care at all, A Place to Shoot stopped and looked for a minute (my guess is that because I was on the steel pistol range he wanted to make sure I wasn't shooting .223. (But I was only shooting the ST-22 and an AR-22.

Burbank Firing Line seems to not care as long as they aren't too busy. I have the impression that they are fine with OLL, just they don't like to have anything too scary looking to spook off new shooters. (so it would be a good thing to call first before going over with anything that remotely looks like an 'assault weapon' (pardon my use of that BS word) Of course, part of that could be that they know me there so they cut me some slack. I also don't believe they allow the shooting of .223, just the .22 conversions

So... no problems yet!!! Knock on wood!!!

titus7
02-21-2009, 6:23 PM
So where do you go in cali to get one of these lowers???

Jwood562
02-21-2009, 6:57 PM
edited

gosparx
02-21-2009, 7:28 PM
So where do you go in cali to get one of these lowers???

If you search on here there is a lot of info on how to make one of the CA legal pistols.

But the short version is either find someone out of state that sells a 'single shot' AR Pistol (it will then be exempt from the handgun roster), then once you have the gun here it's legal to modify it any way you want, such as making it semi-auto (with a bullet button, EVEN if it's a rimfire).

The other way is to buy an 80% lower (http://www.ar15plus.com/) and make one yourself (and it also needs a bullet button). But be warned, it's a relatively simple thing to do, IF you have the right equipment and at least a little experience working/machining metal.

You just have to remember that you can NEVER sell or transfer that receiver and it can never have a stock put on it.

So it's easy, but it's not easy all at the same time. It also pretty expensive for a gun that doesn't have too many practical uses (says the guy with two AR pistols).

Social Casualty
02-21-2009, 8:46 PM
If anyone has, I'm interested in a used 7.5" flat top pistol upper, new would be fine as well. I'll take it in almost any form but it doesn't need to have grips, flash hider, charging handle or bolt carrier group.

Thanks!

gosparx
03-21-2009, 11:17 AM
SWEET!

eric90503
03-21-2009, 12:25 PM
[QUOTE=pacrimguru;2200101]updated pistol pics. i had the barrel shortened so that the kx-3 sinks back under the handguard a bit.


Very Nice, what's the specs on your pistol? Looking to build one after I sold my Professional Ordinance pistol way back. Whole lot of fun. What does it cost to build one like yours if you don't mind me asking.

Great looking pistol, just the right proportions I think, all the way around.

Blue
03-21-2009, 12:26 PM
updated pistol pics. i had the barrel shortened so that the kx-3 sinks back under the handguard a bit.



:rofl2:Your dust cover is pure awesomeness :rofl2:

pacrimguru
03-21-2009, 3:56 PM
Very Nice, what's the specs on your pistol? Looking to build one after I sold my Professional Ordinance pistol way back. Whole lot of fun. What does it cost to build one like yours if you don't mind me asking.

Great looking pistol, just the right proportions I think, all the way around.

thanks guys. here are even more updated pics of the pistol as it is now. i added the magpul MBUS sights. those other "updated" pics were actually taken a little while back.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AR-15%20Pistol/P1130164.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AR-15%20Pistol/P1130165.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AR-15%20Pistol/P1130166.jpg

the pistol's specs are:
- model 1 sales upper
- mega pistol lower
- 6.5" barrel
- VTAC Carbine tube
- Noveske KX-3
- Magpul MBUS
- Daniel Defense Sling Mount
- Spike's Tactical Pistol Buffer Tube
- Valkyrie Tactical Ejection Port Cover

Q
03-24-2009, 5:18 PM
:)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/qm2.jpg

COBRA MASTER
03-24-2009, 8:31 PM
lol that looks different. cool


:)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/qm2.jpg

oldrifle
03-29-2009, 12:13 AM
Why do you need a bullet button on a pistol AR? I've never seen a BB on a pistol before...

tacticalcity
03-29-2009, 1:00 AM
From what I remember reading it is because the magazine is not in the grip, and on a pistol a detachable magazine has to be inserted into the grip to be legal here. Since this state defines a fixed magazine as one that requires a tool to remove, installing a bullet button means it no longer is capable of accepting a detachable magazine outside of the grip and thus is legal...or so the current popular interpretation of the law goes.

If I am wrong please correct me. I am by no means an expert on pistol ARs.

There is a flow chart showing what is and is not allowed on pistol ARs somewhere here. Do a search for it and you will learn all you need to know. Discussing it here is kind of hijacking the thread, since people want to see pictures here...and learn about the law there. Not trying to be rude, just trying to avoid being flamed by other members.

gosparx
03-29-2009, 3:49 AM
From what I remember reading it is because the magazine is not in the grip, and on a pistol a detachable magazine has to be inserted into the grip to be legal here. Since this state defines a fixed magazine as one that requires a tool to remove, installing a bullet button means it no longer is capable of accepting a detachable magazine outside of the grip and thus is legal...or so the current popular interpretation of the law goes.

If I am wrong please correct me. I am by no means an expert on pistol ARs.

There is a flow chart showing what is and is not allowed on pistol ARs somewhere here. Do a search for it and you will learn all you need to know. Discussing it here is kind of hijacking the thread, since people want to see pictures here...and learn about the law there. Not trying to be rude, just trying to avoid being flamed by other members.

You are correct. Since the magazine is outside of the pistol grip then you have to jump through all the hoops just like you would building an AR rifle.

The upside of this is that once you put the BB in, you also don't have to worry about all the other CA restrictions on what is 'legal' for a handgun, such as a threaded barrel.

The BB rule also applies to rimfire in the case of pistols (where they are exempt from all the BS on a rifle). This is do to the slightly different wording in the laws. With regard to rifles, the law makes a clear difference between a center-fire and a rim-fire, but when it comes to pistols, that important differentiation is missing, hence I have a BB on my .22 AR pistol.

Q
03-29-2009, 5:35 AM
One more pic of my mega pistol. I want to buy a 22lr bolt and carrier for it eventually.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/qbertquartz2/mp.jpg

COBRA MASTER
03-29-2009, 8:15 AM
DUDE
WHERE DID YOU GET THE "BREAK YO SELF ENGRAVING" DONE . I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON MINE

thanks guys. here are even more updated pics of the pistol as it is now. i added the magpul MBUS sights. those other "updated" pics were actually taken a little while back.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AR-15%20Pistol/P1130164.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AR-15%20Pistol/P1130165.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AR-15%20Pistol/P1130166.jpg

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AR-15%20Pistol/P1130167.jpg

the pistol's specs are:
- model 1 sales upper
- mega pistol lower
- 6.5" barrel
- VTAC Carbine tube
- Noveske KX-3
- Magpul MBUS
- Daniel Defense Sling Mount
- Spike's Tactical Pistol Buffer Tube
- Valkyrie Tactical Ejection Port Cover

pacrimguru
03-29-2009, 9:52 AM
i sell them. they are currently sold out, but i have other designs in stock right now. the break yo'self ones will be restocked in about a week. thanks!

http://www.valkyrietactical.com/servlet/the-AR-dsh-15-Upgrade-Parts/Categories

pTa
03-29-2009, 4:28 PM
AR pistols RULE

and the AKs are great looking asd well

DWarner
03-31-2009, 8:24 PM
Just finished tonight. Three weeks after finding out about AR pistols, here it is.

69Mach1
03-31-2009, 9:05 PM
Just finished tonight. Three weeks after finding out about AR pistols, here it is.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19993&d=1238556136
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19994&d=1238556158



Nice job! :thumbsup:
Congrats and welcome to the club.

West coast
03-31-2009, 9:17 PM
:thumbsup:Sweet !!!!!!!!!!

Social Casualty
04-01-2009, 11:17 PM
The new lady of the house.

RRA pistol lower
Sundevil upper
7.5" barrel w/ Noveske kx3
VLTOR CASV-MT
VLTOR lp gas block
VLTOR front sight
ARMS rear 40lp
CMMG .22 conversion kit
BlackDog .22 Magazine
Light/Laser unit

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3406536904_5a2a5ce5cb.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3405726043_35b041e06c.jpg

IMC87
04-02-2009, 10:07 PM
The new lady of the house.

RRA pistol lower
Sundevil upper
7.5" barrel w/ Noveske kx3
VLTOR CASV-MT
VLTOR lp gas block
VLTOR front sight
ARMS rear 40lp
CMMG .22 conversion kit
BlackDog .22 Magazine
Light/Laser unit

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3406536904_5a2a5ce5cb.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3405726043_35b041e06c.jpg

The .22 conversion is just the bcg correct? Do you have a cap in place of where the buffer tube is supposed to go? would it still fire .22 without a cap there? i ask cuz i want to shoot .22lr without the buffertube, but dont have a cap for the area where the tube screws in (spikes tactical sells one but is sold out).... Will it work without that cap?

Btw that looks SHAWEET!!

Social Casualty
04-02-2009, 11:57 PM
I personally wouldn't fire the gun without the cap in place. The cap and butt plate need to be installed so the takedown detent, spring and takedown pin are held in place not to mention it unsafe to have the bcg rear open even though its held in place by contact of the upper/rear portion of the bcg to the lower, all it takes is one incident and your lights would be out.

In the photo the rear cap was not installed, its at the machine shop being anodized. If anyone is interested I am thinking of making some extra butt caps for the .22 AR pistol conversions. They will be low profile, very similar to the Sig P556 pistol butt caps but will be able to be installed and removed very easily unlike the P556's cap.

Q
04-03-2009, 3:02 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3406536904_5a2a5ce5cb.jpg

Wow, That's the most futuristic AR pistol build I've seen. Looks like a huge laser beam can fire out of that thing. :57:
:43:

IMC87
04-03-2009, 7:24 AM
I personally wouldn't fire the gun without the cap in place. The cap and butt plate need to be installed so the takedown detent, spring and takedown pin are held in place not to mention it unsafe to have the bcg rear open even though its held in place by contact of the upper/rear portion of the bcg to the lower, all it takes is one incident and your lights would be out.

In the photo the rear cap was not installed, its at the machine shop being anodized. If anyone is interested I am thinking of making some extra butt caps for the .22 AR pistol conversions. They will be low profile, very similar to the Sig P556 pistol butt caps but will be able to be installed and removed very easily unlike the P556's cap.

Very interested on the caps :thumbsup:

IMC87
04-05-2009, 9:34 AM
My ar pistol when it came in:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3448/arbefore.jpg

My AR Pistol now (parts put together by those at OC Armory :thumbsup:)
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/341/photo011c.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8476/photo012k.jpg


Thanks to Freakshow and OC Armory for making this possiblel :thumbsup:

Specs:
-Complete pistol was bought from:
http://www.chesterarmsllc.com/AR15_Pistol.html
-Anvil Arms "registered pistol" marked lower with Bullet Button
-Bravo Company USA upper receiver (to replace the original A2 upper with a flat top upper)
- 7.5in barrel with YHM Flash hider
- MIAD grip and Magpul PMAG 10/30
- TROY industries MRF-C rail system
- Buffer tube looks to be from Model 1 sales (foam bought from bike shop)

Still feels a little rough, need to really smooth it out by breaking it in some.. Will hit the range my next day off :thumbsup:


Any tips for me on where to keep it nice and wet before i hit the range? feels real dry, i already wet it in the 'moving' parts areas

psssniper
04-05-2009, 10:04 AM
I'm working on it

YellowLogic billet60% with the custom EDM single shot sled ;)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/psssniper/Petesguns248.jpg

Broke two 1/8th bits, yes they were fun to get out
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/psssniper/millanddrill010.jpg

Not the greatest machining but....it all fits!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/psssniper/millanddrill024.jpg

Pistol lower is now complete and upper is on the way
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/psssniper/kittykat001.jpg

technique
04-05-2009, 11:53 AM
Psssniper.....:eek: man thats a long way to go with that lower....nice though!!!! I'm over the 80% thing. Glad I did it. I ordered a bunch before the last ATF ruling.

I made 4 special ones engraved with my lastname...I gave em to my Dad. He kept one and gifted the rest to my little bros...5yrs, 3yrs, and 10mo....take that Obama!!

COBRA MASTER
04-07-2009, 12:08 PM
anyone have pics with a pistol with a pri tube or taped up tube.

IMC87
04-07-2009, 1:21 PM
Hey guys, i'll be hitting the range for the first time with my pistol shortly, but my pistol came to me bone dry. What should be lubed up plenty before i go? (i only have CLP)

What about buffer spring and tube? anything in there to lube?

69Mach1
04-07-2009, 7:58 PM
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s281/stonewoe/DSC_0017.jpg

Jesus!

Very nice. :thumbsup:

COBRA MASTER
04-07-2009, 8:05 PM
i want one of these . how much are these suckers

How about an Addax GPU 10.5" AR Pistol Upper...:43:

We are going to start building these in approx. 2 weeks, just waiting on some 10.5" barrels to arrive.

We are also looking at possibly building a 7.5" barreled version, but that is going to take some time to develop.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9807.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/addax/IMG_9809.jpg

Vinz
04-07-2009, 8:10 PM
My ar pistol when it came in:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3448/arbefore.jpg

My AR Pistol now (parts put together by those at OC Armory :thumbsup:)
Thanks to Freakshow and OC Armory for making this possiblel :thumbsup:

Specs:
-Complete pistol was bought from:
http://www.chesterarmsllc.com/AR15_Pistol.html
-Anvil Arms "registered pistol" marked lower with Bullet Button
-Bravo Company USA upper receiver (to replace the original A2 upper with a flat top upper)
- 7.5in barrel with YHM Flash hider
- MIAD grip and Magpul PMAG 10/30
- TROY industries MRF-C rail system
- Buffer tube looks to be from Model 1 sales (foam bought from bike shop)

Still feels a little rough, need to really smooth it out by breaking it in some.. Will hit the range my next day off :thumbsup:


Any tips for me on where to keep it nice and wet before i hit the range? feels real dry, i already wet it in the 'moving' parts areas


Nice job, that looks great.
Im going to go the same Freakshow route but I figure I let him catch up a bit.

CLP, just hoser down and it will come out where it doesn't want to be. :p

I like to use grease on the carrier to upper reciever slides. How does it feel with out the buffer and spring in? Mine felt rought till I shot it a few hundred rounds.

have a blast.

vinz

Vinz
04-07-2009, 8:15 PM
i want one of these . how much are these suckers Cobra you need a few of these...
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=154459

Addax 10.5 upper...
http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=137&idproduct=1095



Nice work BTW.
vinz

Rukus
04-07-2009, 9:20 PM
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s281/stonewoe/DSC_0017.jpg
I hope that VFG doesnt stay mounted on the pistol upper without the tax stamp:rolleyes:

COBRA MASTER
04-07-2009, 9:34 PM
hell yeah those are sick. thanks


Cobra you need a few of these...
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=154459

Addax 10.5 upper...
http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=137&idproduct=1095



Nice work BTW.
vinz

IMC87
04-07-2009, 10:51 PM
pistols are a beautiful thing....

mmm, so are those pics

IHateWhenPeopleSayClip
04-09-2009, 10:15 PM
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll42/technique408/IMG_0045.jpg



Los Gatos Ca? Thats where I live! Gotta look them up now

JagerTroop
04-09-2009, 11:06 PM
Another one I finished recently

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r189/SiksPak88/KittyKatpistol.jpg

IMC87
04-11-2009, 11:02 PM
Went to the range last friday with my pistol, very fun :D

I got it sighted in at about 40-50 yrds, i want it to have an effective range of 100 yards, so should i re-sight it in? at what range should i sight it in to be effective up to 100 yrds?

COBRA MASTER
04-11-2009, 11:17 PM
angeles forest. sylmar

Went to the range last friday with my pistol, very fun :D

I got it sighted in at about 40-50 yrds, i want it to have an effective range of 100 yards, so should i re-sight it in? at what range should i sight it in to be effective up to 100 yrds?

IMC87
04-11-2009, 11:22 PM
angeles forest. sylmar

LOL im sorry, i meant from what distance (in yards) should i sight-in my eotech optic for my pistol to have an effective engagement distance of up to 100yrds, that's my original question :cool:

IMC87
04-14-2009, 2:42 PM
LOL im sorry, i meant from what distance (in yards) should i sight-in my eotech optic for my pistol to have an effective engagement distance of up to 100yrds, that's my original question :cool:

anyone?

technique
04-14-2009, 2:44 PM
anyone?

when I slapped iron sights on mine it was dead on at 100yrds. when I had an Eotech on it, I sighted in at 50yrds.

gizmo7718
04-21-2009, 11:08 AM
Can anyone recommend handguards for a 7.5" upper? It has the A2 fsb which I do not plan on removing, so they have to be short (~4"). I know of the YHM Mini and the Samson one. Any others? Thanks in advance.

Jwood562
04-21-2009, 9:22 PM
my updated pistol pics....

OLD
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn158/jwood562/IMG_4941.jpg

new rail system, flash hider and optic
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn158/jwood562/p1.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn158/jwood562/IMG_5462.jpg

COBRA MASTER
04-24-2009, 8:32 PM
NICE......SHOES IN THE BACKGROUND, J/K COOL SHIZNIT. NICE UPPER, WHAT ARE THE SPECS

my updated pistol pics....

OLD
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn158/jwood562/IMG_4941.jpg

new rail system, flash hider and optic
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn158/jwood562/p1.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn158/jwood562/IMG_5462.jpg

Hopi
04-24-2009, 8:39 PM
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n446/equianous/img244.jpg

Jwood562
04-25-2009, 8:59 AM
Haha like the shoes. My upper is a 10.5" sabre defense upper with a 10" Midwest induestries free float with a low pro gas block, it uses a carbine length gas system for great reliability. Rails are covered by magpul xtm covers and it is all topped off with a noveske kx3. Shoots like a dream

pacrimguru
04-29-2009, 7:24 PM
updated pic of the 'ole pistola... i switched from the spikes tactical buffer tube to the shorter gunsmoke one.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AR-15%20Pistol/P1130598.jpg

IMC87
04-29-2009, 7:26 PM
updated pic of the 'ole pistola... i switched from the spikes tactical buffer tube to the shorter gunsmoke one.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/pacrimguru/AR-15%20Pistol/P1130598.jpg

How does that tube work? reliable? i was thinking about going that route with the shorter tube.