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brassburnz
07-01-2008, 10:55 AM
What are the main differences between the HK Benelli and the recent production Benelli M1 Super 90? If you had a choice between the two, which would be better for 3-gun?

Thanks in advance.

Quiet
07-01-2008, 2:40 PM
Could be wrong, but AFAIK...
HK Benelli = no 922r parts compliance
Benelli = 922r parts compliance

randy
07-01-2008, 2:49 PM
To the best of my knowledge the HK model only came in a ghetto blaster model. (tactical) Your mag extension will stick out 3" past the end of the barrel. That doesn't matter lots of people are set up that way. The tube will just get some blast from the barrel. Doesn't hurt a thing.

Lots of people run the above setup with a new model tactical setup.

The best model for limited class 3 gun is a 21" VR field model.

The HK you could ghost load one on the lifter, on the newer models you have to modify the carrier to do that. Again no big deal.

The Ghost ring sites on the tactical just get in the way for the most part.

Brass burnz, let me know how I can help you.

ar15barrels
07-03-2008, 9:31 PM
http://ar15barrels.com/tech/benelli-carriers.jpg

randy
07-03-2008, 9:47 PM
It's an easy fix to the carrier to get it to ghost load. If I could figure out the camera and how to load pictures I'd show the mods.

ar15barrels
07-03-2008, 10:03 PM
It's an easy fix to the carrier to get it to ghost load.

I know.
I do them too.

This is just to show the difference between new style and old style as they come from Benelli.

randy
07-03-2008, 10:51 PM
Randall I have no doubt you know how to do it. I was just going to put it up for those that don't.

Exiledviking
07-04-2008, 8:24 AM
Silly question...

What is ghost loading?

randy
07-04-2008, 9:02 AM
Ghost loading allows you to fill up your tube then put an extra shell on your shell lifter and one in the chamber. If you have a 5 round tube your gun you would load 5+1+1, a 7 round tube would be 7+1+1.

I didn't come up with the term but it's what I've heard it called.

Good luck

spitter3
07-04-2008, 10:13 AM
Silly question...

What is ghost loading?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ghost+load

TonyM
07-04-2008, 10:20 AM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ghost+load

You know what makes that even more funny? Your name.

ar15barrels
07-04-2008, 1:16 PM
You know what makes that even more funny? Your name.

Oh man, the irony in that is rich.

PLINK
07-04-2008, 2:11 PM
To the best of my knowledge the HK model only came in a ghetto blaster model. (tactical)

FWIW I have a HK marked M1S90 that is a field model - 28 inch vent rib barrel w/ bead sight. It can also be ghost loaded.

ar15barrels
07-04-2008, 2:18 PM
FWIW I have a HK marked M1S90 that is a field model - 28 inch vent rib barrel w/ bead sight. It can also be ghost loaded.

ANY HK marked M1S90 can be ghost loaded.
It's only the post 2003 or 2004 guns that had the shell carrier re-timed.

dw1784
07-05-2008, 11:45 AM
To the best of my knowledge the HK model only came in a ghetto blaster model. (tactical)

early HK versions (86 to early 90's I think) had 7 shot mags, pistol and rifle stock versions, with choice of rifle or ghost ring sights. There's a slug ver too, though it only came in std synth stock only.

with the AW ban, the mag tube was restricted to 5 rds for "sporting purposes".

at a shotgun class I compared my early M1 to the newer M1's(currently replaced by M2's). There's no difference, IMO. Unless you're a collector of Sterling, VA models(like a few HK fans ~snoobs~ out there), as Randy says, it's no big deal.

ar15barrels
07-05-2008, 12:09 PM
early HK versions (86 to early 90's I think) had 7 shot mags, pistol and rifle stock versions, with choice of rifle or ghost ring sights.

My 1993 HK Benelli M1S90 came with a 7 round magazine tube, rifle stock and rifle sights.
My 1997 Benelli M1S90 came with a 5 round magazine tube, pistol grip stock and ghost ring sights.