Target Masters - -worst shop/range evAR? First experience.

[scotthmt]

I would say so, yesterday me and my friend went in because he wanted to buy a 1911. We started looking at a few of the kimbers and asked someone to help us and possibly explain the difference between the TLE and the TLE II. Of course he knew nothing about the difference, and was very unhelpful and unknowledgable. Fast forward to later that night, we go back there because my friend had to grab some papers from his house to buy the TLE II (only to have them tell him that the papers THEY told him to bring wouldn't work) and I had brought my 1911, my 9mm, and a USP to shoot at the range. So I start shooting and im loving how my 1911 shoots with the new trigger job, then I turn around and some guy is standing there and starts to yell at me "I SAID 1 SHOT PER 3 SECONDS DIDNT I?!" "ILL KICK YOU OUT IF YOU DO THAT **** AGAIN" I say yes and apologize that I was shooting slightly fast, (maybe a shot per 1.5 seconds all grouped decently), I begin to turn back to continue shooting and he then yells at me "AND YOU CANT SHOOT FOR **** ANYWAY" I laugh at him, and just brush it off. He has some balls to be insulting someone with a loaded gun in their hands, and true question is, why would you treat customers that way? To personally insult them for an honest mistake? The guys next to me were firing way faster than I was and he just seemed to over look them, and they definately werent LEO's. Target masters is a horrible shop and range, I will encourage my friend to purchase the gun somewhere else, and tell everyone I know to stay far far away from that shop, they will never get any more of my business or any of my friends or familys business. Just had to share my story with calguns.

/rant

[Bowser]

Never had a bad time there.

[scotthmt]

thats the only time i've been there, and to treat a customer in such a way shows to me that they dont give two ****s about repeat business or new customers.

[ghost]

i only go there to look at pistols before i buy them at a different shop or to order online.never do ppt`s there unless you wan to waste 2-3 hours of you life there:confused:
friday and saturday nights are dangerous times to go shoot there as well.

[domokun]

If you're looking for another Kimber dealer with Master Dealer pricing, please check out Irvington Arms in Fremont. The guys there will be able to answer all the questions you had at TargetMasters and then some.

[scotthmt]

My general consensus is F target masters.

They seem too happy to yell at anyone, and talk down to their customers.

[Danield]

He has some balls to be insulting someone with a loaded gun in their hands


What exactly do you mean by that? Because someone insults you, you should shoot them? Maybe you gave off a vibe like this one here....

[scotthmt]

What exactly do you mean by that? Because someone insults you, you should shoot them? Maybe you gave off a vibe like this one here....

I am not saying that I would shoot anyone, but what I AM saying is that I personally would never insult someone holding a loaded weapon, shoot i wouldn't insult someone holding a baseball bat or a knife. I try to avoid all confrontation as such. But past that, insults are never necessary.

[Danield]

I am not saying that I would shoot anyone, but what I AM saying is that I personally would never insult someone holding a loaded weapon, shoot i wouldn't insult someone holding a baseball bat or a knife. I try to avoid all confrontation as such. But past that, insults are never necessary.

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I agree with you that there is no need for insults.

[scotthmt]

If you're looking for another Kimber dealer with Master Dealer pricing, please check out Irvington Arms in Fremont. The guys there will be able to answer all the questions you had at TargetMasters and then some.

Im trying to convince him to goto bullseye, If IA was open today I'd take him there, but he wants his gun now, today, but hopefully they'll tell him he has the wrong paper once again, and I can show him to a nice respectful shop with good customer service.

[Manic Moran]

We're talking Milpitas, right? I've always had a very pleasant experience shooting there. The staff I used to know have turned over, but I still routinely visit. I take the bizarre rules (such as no rapid fire) as pretty much par for the course on an indoor range in the Bay Area.

NTM

[Danield]

I can show him to a nice respectful shop with good customer service.

You're talking about Turners right?

[scotthmt]

I understand the rules, and there is quite a difference between rapid fire versus slightly fast shooting, I just dont see the need to be insulted or singled out. Its spilt milk any who, but I just cannot reccomend that place to anyone.

[scotthmt]

You're talking about Turners right?

Im in northen california, so I would like to show him bullseye and Irvington Arms.

[cseabass]

stop on by tomorrow and ill gladly help your friend out. i will also explain the diffs of the 2 models.(i assume your talking series 1 vs series 2, or a custom vs a tle?)


Moran... i still have yet to take on your IMPs... SoB!(that said, i never have the time to play 40k anymore.)

[kurac]

Target Masters in Milpitas has gone downhill in the last 10 years or so. I used to be a member there in the 90's and it was a nice place to shoot. As a side note, I have seen people yelled at on every range I have ever been to for various reasons, indoor ranges in particular do not like rapid fire even though they do like it for select individuals. If I owned an indoor range I would promote it since that means people would buy more ammo, unless the insurance does not allow it.

[///D]

Hard to believe someone would make that comment un-provoked....but if he did, he's truly an a-hole.

The employee retention rate over there seems to be non existant which might make it believeable. Which also makes them not knowing the difference between a I and II or Custom and TLE not surprising. I go there strictly to browse or if I'm desperate, I may use the range. Other than that, nothing else.

[Cranium]

Hmmm... Sounds like a cork-soaker I had a run-in with at TM about a year ago. Tall, lanky a-hole? Total prick. I thought he was gone.
There's NO need to condescend to your clientele. Even the gang-bangers. Got a problem? Kick them (or me) out, otherwise, STFU.
Must suck having a small penis.

[SJgunguy24]

Target Masters West has gone downhill BIG TIME,when Bill got the place from his old man he instilled a "we know what you want cause your an idiot" attitude. The same people worked there for years and then Bill took over. Now you would be hard pressed to see the same employees there one month to the next. I was there one time and one of their "experts" was pushing a 1000$ Kimber on a guy for a first gun,I started talking to the guy he wanted to drop 400-600$ so I asked the guy to show him a Springfield G.I. that was 450$ (in his price range) and dude rolled his eyes at me and told the customer I didn't know what I was talking about and the 1000$ Kimber would be best for him. Well dude walked out with me and I sent him to Irvington Arms. I'm sorry rolling your eyes is just about THE RUDEST THING ANYONE CAN DO. Make me want to snatch those eyes right out of their skull.. Irvington Arms is an awsome place they told me if you want to B.S. guns or just rub guns your welcome anytime. Now thats customer service.

[Gryff]

Target masters is a horrible shop and range, I will encourage my friend to purchase the gun somewhere else, and tell everyone I know to stay far far away from that shop, they will never get any more of my business or any of my friends or familys business.

You have my vote of agreement. Can't stand that place.

[dfletcher]

If you can get to Milpitas you can make it to the Reeds indoor range. When I go there they tend to leave people alone (at least that's my experience) and the facility is head & shoulders above Milpitas. I will say I've not had a bad experience at Milpitas though.

[Greg-Dawg®]

...to continue shooting and he then yells at me "AND YOU CANT SHOOT FOR **** ANYWAY" I laugh at him, and just brush it off. He has some balls to be insulting someone with a loaded gun in their hands, and true question is, why would you treat customers that way?...

And what were you going to do with that loaded gun? Verbal insults doesn't count as an "immediate fear for your life".

You've ranted, and carry on.

[scotthmt]

Hard to believe someone would make that comment un-provoked....but if he did, he's truly an a-hole.

The employee retention rate over there seems to be non existant which might make it believeable. Which also makes them not knowing the difference between a I and II or Custom and TLE not surprising. I go there strictly to browse or if I'm desperate, I may use the range. Other than that, nothing else.

I said nothing to him other than "Yes you did, Oh okay I'm sorry"

Hmmm... Sounds like a cork-soaker I had a run-in with at TM about a year ago. Tall, lanky a-hole? Total prick. I thought he was gone.
There's NO need to condescend to your clientele. Even the gang-bangers. Got a problem? Kick them (or me) out, otherwise, STFU.
Must suck having a small penis.

It was a slightly overweight guy that appeared to be of middle eastern or Indian descent.


And what were you going to do with that loaded gun? Verbal insults doesn't count as an "immediate fear for your life".

You've ranted, and carry on.

I would do nothing with that loaded gun other than put rounds down range through paper (with decent grouping I might add). If you read the whole thread I already addressed that statement.


This is not about getting yelled at the range, I've seen that at almost any range I've been too but with all due respect. But never EVER have I seen someone insult a customer. I am far from a gang banger, I always clean up my shells, never shoot headshots, and am very safe and careful with my firearm(s)

[Gryff]

And what were you going to do with that loaded gun? Verbal insults doesn't count as an "immediate fear for your life".

You've ranted, and carry on.

The OP wasn't suggesting that he was tempted to do anything stupid. He was only commenting on the fact that only a moron would insult somebody with a weapon in his hands (reinforcing the fact that the TM employee was a complete tool).

never shoot headshots

That rule always cracks me up. Got to love a range that is more concerned about their gear than about giving you the legitimate target shooting experience you've paid for. I've also wondered if it is because their employees can't shoot worth crap, so they assume the customer can't either.

[Greg-Dawg®]

Sorry I haven't read the whole thing. Anyways, if it's REALLY bothering you...which pretty much did since you're posting this to the public, I'd recommend resolving by contacting the owner/manager.

Just be civilized. At least you've said your peace and now the ball's in their court. They can just take your comments with a grain of salt and give you a FREE membership or they can continue on losing business from valuable customers. Or that dude gets fired...which is what he deserves if he continues doing that.

Trust me, I've worked at both ends and the best way to keep or lose a business is how you treat your patrons.

Go over tomorrow and tell them how you were treated. You'll feel better for it.

Just my thoughts.

[Greg-Dawg®]

The OP wasn't suggesting that he was tempted to do anything stupid. He was only commenting on the fact that only a moron would insult somebody with a weapon in his hands (reinforcing the fact that the TM employee was a complete tool).

I'm just saying that having a loaded weapon while someone insults you doesn't make your more a "man" or better than anyone else...which is what his statement proclaims. I tend to see both sides from the tool's perspective and from the one holding a loaded weapon. It just keeps me in check.

Just my thoughts, so please don't take this as a retaliation or an insult.

[USN CHIEF]

To the OP...

The comment that the employee told you was just unnecessary and it was clearly and insult that he had to no right to say it to you the paying customer. I would not leave this matter alone until you spoke with his boss. I can't even imagine how many people this clown has insulted.

[dichter]

Im trying to convince him to goto bullseye, If IA was open today I'd take him there, but he wants his gun now, today, but hopefully they'll tell him he has the wrong paper once again, and I can show him to a nice respectful shop with good customer service.

+1 for bullseye, they are well stocked on Kimber.

[scotthmt]

I understand where youre coming from and I think my statement could be construed in a bad light, but I meant nothing of the sort, but as Gryff said it was just to reinforce the fact that this guy was just being a jerk and had no care about customer service/treatment. I made this thread to let other fellow gun owners read feedback about where and who to goto when it comes to shooting/buying guns.

Heck I would have never heard of Irvington Arms and how cool they are about OLL if someone hadn't mentioned it. I have tried to visit every gun store and range in the bay area and report back on which ones I liked and which ones I didn't and why i felt whatever way I felt. In doing this I feel I am offering some feedback to other CG'ers on where they may go for excellent service and where they should avoid due to bad service. Its all for the better good.

[PonyFiveO]

I have been going to Target Masters for approximately 12 years and still have never had a bad experience. Even the slightly overweight guy that appeared to be of middle eastern or Indian descent has always been helpful and courteous to me. I guess each time I have gone I must have went at all of the right times to avoid any BS. Maybe I should buy a lotto ticket :D

I agree that the PPT takes an average of about an hour, but their selection is pretty good and prices are not too bad either.

Irvington ROCKS btw! PPT takes less roughly 10 - 15 minutes!

[bohoki]

I'm just saying that having a loaded weapon while someone insults you doesn't make your more a "man" or better than anyone else...which is what his statement proclaims. I tend to see both sides from the tool's perspective and from the one holding a loaded weapon. It just keeps me in check.

Just my thoughts, so please don't take this as a retaliation or an insult.

i read from that that the insulter doesn't know who he is insulting and he is lucky that this time he insulted someone calm and collected

[weekend_plinker]

I go to target masters for one reason only. there open late.
I recently had one bad experience there. It was not employee but some jerk who was a cop.
He was showing off to a lady, the he had a gun.
He was in lane one and I was in lane two. I had been there for abought a half hour shooting my 9mm taking my time shooting. This guy shows up puts a target maybe 7 yards out and unloads a full magazine in under 10 seconds. These where no ten round magazines either but high capacity. All his shells start fling over the small wall into my stall. He did not even give me warning they he was going to be rapid firing. I put my gun on the table and step back and look at they guy and say what are you doing. He says rudely I am A cop I can rapid fire any time I want. I step out of the range and ask one of the employees whats up with him rapid firing. The employee told me they allow cops to rapid fire. I say it would have been nice to know that he was going to be dong that.
Just say I was was a little mad and left early that night.


Also this cop was the worst shoot I have ever seen only put 4 or 5 rounds in the black part of the silhouette and may be one in the kill zone. I could have done better then him at that range.

[N_S]

I have somewhat fond memories of Targetmasters since that's where I fired my first gun (a 9mm USP). If I can recall correctly their gun selection is pretty decent even though service can be ~meh. They still kick the hell out of Reed's, those guys have almost no guns for sale. Also I did hear about how unsafe it gets toward the weekends. New shooters, you just can't avoid them.

[kurac]

I have never personally had a problem at Target Masters but I have witnessed plenty over the years. I am assuming the owner is a tall heavy guy about 40 years old, maybe two years ago I was in there when he came storming out of the back and started scolding and threatening employees in front of customers, it was quite a spectical. No wonder why there are always new people there.

[kakpataka]

My general consensus is F target masters.

They seem too happy to yell at anyone, and talk down to their customers.

I thought that I was the only one who felt that way. these people are so rude...........its unbelievable........ I went there 2 times and after that I never bothered to go again. They have no manners.

[savs2k]

tm workers are generally young people who don't know the difference in anything and just work there because it's a gun store. Don't get me wrong I still go there every so often because there are a handful of people who know their stuff and are really nice. Everytime i go TM theres always new people working so don't let it get to you.

[Z ME FLY]

This is funny because I have a story just like this. When I was shooting my G29 I was I guess you can consider it rapid fire to them but had no problems controlling the G29 or my shots. All where in the kill zone of the body target from 12-15 yards away. I got yelled at a bunch of times and ended up leaving but I was actually kinda scared because some noobs were next to me and looks like they didn't know anything about loading a mag!! SCARY!!!

But you can always go to Bullseye!! I know there isn't a problem with rapid fire there as long as you can hit your target :)

[PressCheck]

Never had a Bad experience at Target Masters.
Guys are great, and they let me fire from the holster, and shoot "double taps."

[CABilly]

The best thing about TM is the hours. Reed's is closer, but I'm a nightowl. The worst thing about TM, that I've dealt with, is the clientele those hours seem to attract. The outdoor muni range in South San Jose is my new favorite place. Those guys are awesome. Hours stink and cease-fire is kind of annoying, but the atmosphere is the best there.

[puppypower]

Never had a bad experience at TM.

Headshot rules are annoying but it certainly does suck to have wannabe gangbangers shoot up your hangers and equipment all the time.

I go to Jackson Arms or Bullseye when I want to do double taps or rapid fire :)

Otherwise, TM works good for me since it opens late.

[ldivinag]

i stopped going to TM since i was treated with their inconsistent rules.

IIRC, their rules say you can double tap if NO ONE else is in the same room.

one time, i mentioned that and the guy says fine.

next time i'm there, some other people just laughed at me...

sigh...

[hkfooey]

The main reason I go to TM is because it opens late... and I agree that some of the employees do not know what they are talking about... :confused:

[///D]

i stopped going to TM since i was treated with their inconsistent rules.

IIRC, their rules say you can double tap if NO ONE else is in the same room.

one time, i mentioned that and the guy says fine.

next time i'm there, some other people just laughed at me...

sigh...

I've never heard that was allowed in all the years I've known that place.

[bug_eyedmonster]

I have been going to Target Masters for approximately 12 years and still have never had a bad experience. Even the slightly overweight guy that appeared to be of middle eastern or Indian descent has always been helpful and courteous to me. I guess each time I have gone I must have went at all of the right times to avoid any BS. Maybe I should buy a lotto ticket :D

I agree that the PPT takes an average of about an hour, but their selection is pretty good and prices are not too bad either.

Irvington ROCKS btw! PPT takes less roughly 10 - 15 minutes!

The employee you guys are speaking of is the only employee that has been keeping me away from that place. For the most part, the people there are nice, but MOST of them would seem better working in a different environment. Especially the Idian/middle eastern guy you guys are talking about. He's threatened me several times, insulted me and a few of my friends on different occasions, and has kicked me out for rapid firing (much like the OP, I was shooting slightly faster then the 3 seconds). When I spoke to another employee there, one that's seen us there almost every week, he said that he was just showing off because we were with girls. I, like many other guys here, go there because they are open late. I've learned to shoot earlier now... I can't stand some retard having a power trip or trying to show off over the dumbest things.

Target Masters has the worst prices I've seen on new guns in the immediate area, why would you take a gun buyer there? I tell people to go and check them out there, and buy from Irvington Arms.

Jerry

[berg]

I've been there a few times usually with 1 or 2 other guys in as group. I've noticed if you act remotely like a noob they will try to nanny you around. But if you act confident about your equipment and your shooting ability they back down, at least with the employees that I saw.

Personally I don't know why people get bent out of shape by the high prices. You can always politely ask them to match the price at another store. "XX-store has this gun for $50 less. I'd rather buy from you guys, do you think you could match that price?"

[Soldier415]

Yikes.

If any member of the Bullseye staff behaved this way towards a customer their career would be cut very short :eek:

For the record, we allow double taps/controlled pairs, rapid fire, etc. as long as you are hitting the target and not our gear. If we hear rapid fire one of us will come out and observe to ensure you are not wild, if you are hitting the target then all is good.

We believe in the train as you fight, fight as you trained mentality. One shot every 3 seconds as training won't help you very much if you have to use your weapon in a defensive situation.

If you would like to practice holster work, ask for the range master when you come in and he will observe your form. If you are safely performing the draw and fire, then good to go.

[Kruzr]

The comments weren't proper but I've seen worse.

Don't fault the guy for not knowing the difference between a TLE and a TLE II since it's a trick question. There never was nor is there any such thing as a TLE. They are all II's, including the original ones issued to LAPD SWAT. The TLE didn't come out until two years after Kimber had switched to the Series II. The II designates the firing pin safety.

It wasn't until the Warrior (not the one for Calif.) that Kimber re-introduced a non Series II gun in their production line again.

[BlackDrop50]

If they don't know you, they will usually treat you like crap. Not the best customer service model. Only a few are knowledgeable there. I once asked a salesman what the difference was between a few 1911s. He said, oh they're all the same, they just look different. I just said, 'uh..yeahh..." and walked away to talk to another salesman.

My last experience wasn't good there and I haven't been back for a while.

[bwiese]

I haven't been to TM for awhile. They've undergone staff changes it seems.

There is one cool dude - hope he's still there - Paul, who's a SASS cowboy shooter. He's very knowledgeable/sensible, good folk like that are hard to find.

[tattooed_freak]

I've heard Target Masters is known as Ghetto Masters.....

I would have put the gun down and asked him to show me how to shoot.

[savs2k]

pauls a alright guy. Nancy however.... shes the best! Normally if nancy isn't there I do nothing more then window shop or shoot with friends. I just don't trust anyone else's word.

[Manic Moran]

There is one cool dude - hope he's still there - Paul, who's a SASS cowboy shooter. He's very knowledgeable/sensible, good folk like that are hard to find.

I liked Paul, a lot. Even addresses me by rank, nice touch :). Nancy's good. Also met an older black chap working there one night recently who was new to me, very friendly character, seemed quite competent.

Sadly, I have not seen Paul in a while. Don't know if he's moved on, or if I just haven't swung by at the right day at the right time of late.

Damned if I know why I've not heard of Bullseye before. (Probably because I live at the other end of the Bay, though). You got lads up there named Jared Masher or Antonio Cueva up there? Or am I thinking of somewhere else?

NTM

[Soldier415]

Damned if I know why I've not heard of Bullseye before. (Probably because I live at the other end of the Bay, though). You got lads up there named Jared Masher or Antonio Cueva up there? Or am I thinking of somewhere else?


Neither of them work at Bullseye anymore. We are a vendor here. check out our vendor forum and browse through the customer feedback thread...hope to see you up here soon.

[Manic Moran]

Ah well. I work with them on the military side, I recall them saying they did some work for a gunstore up your neck of the woods. Good lads.

NTM

[Soldier415]

Ah well. I work with them on the military side, I recall them saying they did some work for a gunstore up your neck of the woods. Good lads.

NTM

I havent heard from Jared in a long while, we have all been trying to get ahold of him to make sure he is doing OK.

[Manic Moran]

Let me ask him.

NTM

[johnny_22]

$5 to shoot after 13:00 M-F, makes for a great late lunch during the work day. My practices are pretty basic, so 1 shot/3 seconds is fine. For faster practice, I have the MNSL.

http://targetmasterswest.com/_wsn/page9.html

"Happy Hour
- 1/2 OFF Range Time and Firearm Rentals -
Monday through Friday - 1pm to 4pm"

[bug_eyedmonster]

Yes, both Paul and Nancy are great there, but the only two people worth talking to IMO. Paul is usually there later in the day as far as I know. I usually go there on Wed nights, and I see him there after about 7 or 8. Real nice guy, very knowledgeable, and is a great shot. He's been there as long as I can remember, whenever I get a cool gun in there, he's the first I let try...

Jerry

[jonathanchen1111]

yeah..target masters has horrible service...and rude too..has no knowledge..I won a Russian SKS with a 10rd fixed magazine on gunbroker, and they refused to help with the transferring..saying that it's an assault rifle, and how they don't deal with "illegal firearms"...Anyone know of other gun ranges around the bay area?

[bug_eyedmonster]

yeah..target masters has horrible service...and rude too..has no knowledge..I won a Russian SKS with a 10rd fixed magazine on gunbroker, and they refused to help with the transferring..saying that it's an assault rifle, and how they don't deal with "illegal firearms"...Anyone know of other gun ranges around the bay area?

Without hesitation, I'd do the transfer at Irvington Arms. They have been great in every way possible. Their customer service is top notch, they have the best prices around for damn near everything, and are quick and painless with the paperwork. The only complaint I have with them is I always end up spending more money then initially planned. Be prepared for the possibility of walking out with two guns and extra goodies after your 10 day.

Jerry

[thedrickel]

yeah..target masters has horrible service...and rude too..has no knowledge..I won a Russian SKS with a 10rd fixed magazine on gunbroker, and they refused to help with the transferring..saying that it's an assault rifle, and how they don't deal with "illegal firearms"...Anyone know of other gun ranges around the bay area?


Google "Roger's Relics"

[Bowser]

Note to self: Remember who Jonathan Chen is.

[SJgunguy24]

Google "Roger's Relics"

Picked up my 2 AK's yesterday from them. Roger and his wife are great to work with.

[Turbinator]

If Paul is the guy with the moustache and a sort of skinny cowboy look, he's also hard of hearing, as I discovered while chatting with him casually a few times.

On other days, I guess he's hit / miss. Once he chewed us out for shooting too fast. But the thing is, it wasn't us - our target was a 1 hole group. It was the guys next to us who were shooting fast. We tried to explain but he wouldn't have any of it - he claimed he saw us - I really doubt he did as I was watching my friend meticulously and SLOWLY put round after round through 1 hole on the paper.

I've not really been back since then.. Reed's Indoor gets my money now.

Turby

[wellfedirishman]

Don't knock Targetmasters. I think that if you are polite, follow the rules and act nicely, people generally return the favor and treat you well. I have done many transfers there, I know most of the guys by name, and I shoot there pretty regularly. I have always had positive experiences there.

I did see a guy kicked out recently for rapid firing (which is clearly against the rules, he should have had more sense). He was giving crap to the rangemasters about it, but he deserved it, he should have exercised a little bit of restraint with the trigger finger.

[Hadesomega]

I've been to Target Masters a couple time and my experience wasn't that bad. They are lacking in customer service and one of my buddies said transferring firearms there is horrible.

I go to San Jose Municiple Firing Range off of 10th street in San Jose. Its a small range with crank driven target lines. The guys who run the place are nice. They give you free targets, let you shoot tennis balls, and its cheap 5 bux an hour. It also fairly quiet there also.

[Bowser]

I wonder if the one tall jerk and his friend that was there today is a CG member. If you are, you're an idiot.

[saigon1965]

I wonder if the one tall jerk and his friend that was there today is a CG member. If you are, you're an idiot.


How are you liking work?

[Bowser]

It's pretty fun. I wish I could shoot while working though.

[saigon1965]

I'll see you there soon -

[Bowser]

I'll see you there soon -

As I told another CGer, when you enter please do a dance so I know it's you. LOL

[kakpataka]

I wonder if the one tall jerk and his friend that was there today is a CG member. If you are, you're an idiot.

I ve been there 3 times for using the range. These people are Horrible.
By mistake I double tapped............. This asian guy( dont know his name , thats y referring to his ethnicity )
walks upto me and says" if you do that again, you will be kicked out of here".
I am like ( to my self) , if someone was holding a gun in their hand, you would at least wanna be polite! this was a while back. Another time, it was my first time renting a shotgun there, so I loaded it pointed down, instead of it pointing it towards the range and resting it on the "thingy" they have in one of the booths reserved for shotguns. he same guy walks upto me and asks me If I ve shot a shotgun before.( I am like plz......... I used to own HK571 )& then tells me that if I do it again "I will be kicked out". I told him , hey you should ve told me where to put the $300 .00 shotgun before you handed it to me.
I ve been shooting guns since I was a baby..........dont insult me , just tell me what I did wrong and thats it.
Whats messed up is that every time I went there it was at least a party of 3 or more & they made a lot of $$$ off of us.

[kakpataka]

I wonder if the one tall jerk and his friend that was there today is a CG member. If you are, you're an idiot.

You are too nice cuz Idiot is too polite a word for folks who dont respect their clients.

[Bowser]

You are too nice cuz Idiot is too polite a word for folks who dont respect their clients.

I respect the customers, but you don't know the circumstances of why I am calling that guy an idiot.

[kakpataka]

I respect the customers, but you don't know the circumstances of why I am calling that guy an idiot.

You work over at TM?

[Bowser]

No not at all.

[kakpataka]

No not at all.
Thanks G-d.
I was gonna say isnt Calguns kinda far from you?

[PressCheck]

NEVER had a problem there. In fact - they let me shoot from the holster, and do failure drills (double taps).

I'm not a LEO!

[Turbinator]

NEVER had a problem there. In fact - they let me shoot from the holster, and do failure drills (double taps).

I'm not a LEO!

Why do they let you do this? They are pretty strict on everyone else.

Turby

[PressCheck]

Why do they let you do this? They are pretty strict on everyone else.

Turby
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I shoot there with 2 buddies that get to do the same thing, but only in the first bay.

Why? - Maybe because I was one of the owners of HALO Group.