View Full Version : Legality of pistol conversion kits
gbran
06-21-2008, 03:23 PM
Many times I've considered getting a conversion kit for a pistol...... maybe a .22lr kit for a 1911. Maybe even a different barrel/caliber for a Glock. Now Guncrafters Industries is making a .50GI conversion for a Glock.
My question is twofold; Because we have registration in CA, what happens if you had bought a .45 and for whatever reason had to present your weapon to a LEO with the .22lr conversion?
Also, I wonder how this would effect my ccw. I can only have 3 guns on it, but what would happen if I had a conversion on one of my ccw pieces? The guns on my ccw are listed by make, caliber and S/N#.
bwiese
06-21-2008, 03:32 PM
It is perfectly legal to modify a handgun into another legal configuration - caliber change, rimfire to/from centerfire, barrel length, double to/from single action, repeater to/from single shot, etc.
You just can't make the gun into a pistol-based AW or 'unconventional pistol' (no rifling) or make the pistol chamber shotgun shells (like 410Ga).
Modification of a gun however will lead to its not being in a "Rostered" condition. It can only be PPT'd to another Californian or sold via FFL to someone outside CA.
I don't think any 'law' is violated on your CCW by caliber change but if push came to shove (i.e, usage) there's a chance renewal denial could occur. Given discretionary issue of CCW I'd advise keeping the caliber updated.
Also some depts (IIRC) seem to want to have CCW guns be Rostered (at least at time of application) so that may play into things too...
gbran
06-21-2008, 07:12 PM
Thanks
scrat
06-21-2008, 07:42 PM
i have a .44 Walker Black powder revolver. The biggest ever made. While it shoots .44 round balls fairly well. i can take out the cylinder. Replace it with an R&D cylinder. Then load her up with 45 Long Colt. Thus its actually two guns in one. How. The .44 round balls actually measure .454. When you load them in the gun a ring of lead is shaved off. Creating a gas seal in the cylinders. This measured ball is .452 the same size as 45 Long Colt. Is it legal Yes. Can i sell the gun like this. NO. why because black powder revolvers do not require DROS or FFL. They are straight out sold. However selling the revolver with a 45 long colt clasifies it as a centerfire revolver requiring DROS and FFL. However the part itself is legal to sell as it is a converion/ modification part. Makes for a good conversation piece at the range.
RomanDad
06-22-2008, 07:12 AM
Many times I've considered getting a conversion kit for a pistol...... maybe a .22lr kit for a 1911. Maybe even a different barrel/caliber for a Glock. Now Guncrafters Industries is making a .50GI conversion for a Glock.
My question is twofold; Because we have registration in CA, what happens if you had bought a .45 and for whatever reason had to present your weapon to a LEO with the .22lr conversion?
Also, I wonder how this would effect my ccw. I can only have 3 guns on it, but what would happen if I had a conversion on one of my ccw pieces? The guns on my ccw are listed by make, caliber and S/N#.
As for the CCW, it will depend on the agency.... I have a three gun limit on my permit as well... I have three guns on it.... One is listed in two calibers.
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