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tango-52
06-20-2008, 05:01 PM
Just posted on CalCCW.com:

http://www.calccw.com/Forums/general-ccw-discussion/4743-city-covina-eliminates-illegal-ccw-permit-fee.html


CITY OF COVINA ELIMINATES ILLEGAL CCW PERMIT FEE IN RESPONSE TO NRA/CRPA DEMAND

The City of Covina has recognized that the $2,420 "fee" it was charging to apply for a California concealed weapons permit (CCW) is illegal, and has reduced the fee to within the legal limit of a few hundred dollars.

Covina has a policy disfavoring the issuance of CCW permits in general. The higher fee had the likely intentional effect of eliminating CCW permit applications. Not a single person was issued a CCW permit under the City's exorbitant $2,420 "fee" requirement.

National Rifle Association ("NRA") grassroots activists brought the illegal fee to the NRA's attention. Lawyers for the NRA and California Rifle & Pistol Association (CRPA) then sent out a cease and desist pre-litigation demand letter to the City demanding that the City lower the illegal fee. Through public records requests and an investigation into the City's practices, the lawyers discovered that the City ignored the statutory limitations on CCW fees that can be imposed despite clearly noted warnings regarding statutory fee caps in a Fee Study submitted to City officials before the illegal fee was imposed. The lawyers also discovered that the nearly 1000% increase in the fee was not put before the public for comment, as required under the Brown Act, and that the City was using an outdated application form.

In light of the information brought to the City's attention by the attorneys the City changed its policies. Firearm owners in Covina seeking a CCW can now only be charged maximum fees totaling around $400 to get through the entire process. The initial fees to start the process are less. Covina has also abandoned its out-of-date CCW application, and is now basing their new policy and application on the form developed by the California Department of Justice.

For City of Covina residents, the new CCW procedures, application, and fee structure are available by contacting Sergeant Trevor Gaumer from the City of Covina Police Department at (626) 858-4461.

Cato
06-20-2008, 05:30 PM
They might as well raise it to 24 trillion dollars since they aren't gonna issue any to regular folks.

tango-52
06-20-2008, 05:44 PM
They might as well raise it to 24 trillion dollars since they aren't gonna issue any to regular folks.
True. But there are other remedies for that.

bohoki
06-20-2008, 05:53 PM
wow is there a "fee to apply" and if you dont get it you are out of your money with nothing in return

sounds to me like an incentive to deny a person a few times and hope they reapply

jamesob
06-20-2008, 06:37 PM
they could lower the price to a dollar, they still are not going to issue any of them.

M. Sage
06-20-2008, 06:43 PM
... "a few hundred dollars"? That's legal!?

yellowfin
06-20-2008, 07:09 PM
So they got rid of illegal...can they work on unconscionable restriction now too?

Fjold
06-20-2008, 07:12 PM
Add this to the "What has the NRA done for us" post.

They are working for us.

tango-52
06-20-2008, 09:43 PM
Add this to the "What has the NRA done for us" post.

They are working for us.
Did that before I started this thread.

Billy Jack
06-21-2008, 07:12 AM
It should be rather obvious that now is the time for any Covina resident with stellar Good Cause to apply for a CCW. The lack of prior issuance would be an issue directly related to the illegal high fee. Prior bad acts by the city to reduce or eliminate applications would be allowed in as evidence that the city simply did not want to issue.

I can assure you the city now expects to be sued for non issuance. Now if you are a Covina resident with the requisite Good Cause, you really do not want to disappoint the city now do you? If you have Good Cause, you contact TBJ and we will clean you up, make you smell nice and send you in for your CCW.

I posted on the Covina fee issue over one year ago and no one wanted to listen. Do you hear me know?

Billy Jack

"When policemen break the law, then there isn't any law...just a fight for survival!"



www.californiaconcealedcarry.com

bohoki
06-21-2008, 10:11 AM
how does one know if they have a good cause

often they can be countered by "don't do that" or "do it a different way"


i transport $10,000 worth of firearms including registered assault weapons to the range and back is keeping them from falling in the wrong hands a good cause

Billy Jack
06-21-2008, 10:36 AM
how does one know if they have a good cause

often they can be countered by "don't do that" or "do it a different way"


i transport $10,000 worth of firearms including registered assault weapons to the range and back is keeping them from falling in the wrong hands a good cause

If you will contact us at: www.californiaconcealedcarry.com I will take you by the hand and show you how to determine GCin any city and whether they are following policy and the law.

If you are going to use 'Avid Shooter' or 'I transport expensive firearms to the range' save your dime. Those delusional Good Causes are not going to work anywhere in Los Angeles County.

If you have to interact with MS13, Crips or Bloods, we can work with you. Yes, those were extreme examples but they do work.

Billy Jack