??'s re PPT

[gbp]

I know the first thing to come out is do a search ,,,,fact is I have and read 100's of posts without comming to the answere i am looking for.
What I want to know is on a FTF - PPT of a handgun does it still restrict me to 1 every 30 days or 6 per year. I am under the impression that I can buy as many handguns as I want if done FTF-PPT. I need to know the actual Calif Law that so states and be able to reference it. Been to the DOJ site and can't seem to find the answere either.

Any help would be appreciated
ThanX

[saigon1965]

FTF-PPT, go get as many as you want. Let me look for the PC.

[Hunter]

You didn't look hard enough on the DOJ site. Under the FAQ, question #16

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs.php

Even cites the PC for you.

[Quiet]

If you are selling, you are limited to 6 transactions per year. However, you can sell multiple handguns during each transaction.


CA Penal Code 12070
(a) No person shall sell, lease, or transfer firearms unless he or she has been issued a license pursuant to Section 12071. Any person violating this section is guilty of a misdemeanor.
(b) Subdivision (a) does not include any of the following:
(4) The infrequent sale, lease, or transfer of firearms.
(c)(1) As used in this section, "infrequent" means:
(A) For pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person, less than six transactions per calendar year. For this purpose, "transaction" means a single sale, lease, or transfer of any number of pistols, revolvers, or other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person.

[gbp]

No, I am buying. but having an issue and just need the actual verbage or law exempting this transaction from the 1 in 30 day law

[ohsmily]

No, I am buying. but having an issue and just need the actual verbage or law exempting this transaction from the 1 in 30 day law

Did you bother reading the post by "Hunter?" He gave you a link to the DOJ website. Did you click on the link? It takes you RIGHT TO YOUR ANSWER AND THE PERTINENT PENAL CODE.You didn't look hard enough on the DOJ site. Under the FAQ, question #16

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs.php

Even cites the PC for you.



Spoonfeed for you:
# Is there a maximum number of handguns that a person may purchase?

While no limitation exist for the number of handguns that a person may own, a person is generally limited to making no more than one application to purchase a handgun within any 30 day period. Handgun transactions related to law enforcement, private party transfers, returns to owners, and other specified circumstances are exempt from the one-handgun-per-30-day restriction.

(PC section 12072(a)(9))

[gbp]

Have you read PC 12072(a)(9) yourself?

[Hunter]

Have you read PC 12072(a)(9) yourself?

Yes, I have and I am sure Ohsmiley has as well, but I donot think you have taken the time to read it all.

If you have, then I donot understand what part of PC12072(a)(9) you are still confused with? It seems pretty clear to me (at least for a PC).

Here let me quote it for you.

First the main PC states:


12072. (a) (9) (A) No person shall make an application to purchase more than one pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed
upon the person within any 30-day period.

Then we have the exception to this PC that applies in your case here

12072. (a) (9) (B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to any of the following:

{snip}

(viii) Any transaction conducted through a licensed firearms
dealer pursuant to Section 12082.


Seems pretty clear to me. If you are not aware Section 12082 lays out the requirement for PPT thru a dealer.



12082. (a) A person shall complete any sale, loan, or transfer of a
firearm through a person licensed pursuant to Section 12071 in
accordance with this section in order to comply with subdivision (d)
of Section 12072. The seller or transferor or the person loaning the
firearm shall deliver the firearm to the dealer who shall retain
possession of that firearm. The dealer shall then deliver the firearm
to the purchaser or transferee or the person being loaned the
firearm, if it is not prohibited, in accordance with subdivision (c)
of Section 12072.


So what is not clear? Is there something else you are looking for ?

[slowfire]

No, I am buying. but having an issue and just need the actual verbage or law exempting this transaction from the 1 in 30 day law

What is the issue that you are having that prevents you from PPTing? How did the 1 in 30 day thing affect your PPT?

[The SoCal Gunner]

No, I am buying. but having an issue and just need the actual verbage or law exempting this transaction from the 1 in 30 day law

What city are you in?

[The SoCal Gunner]

If you are selling, you are limited to 6 transactions per year. However, you can sell multiple handguns during each transaction.



Curious to see where you got this info from. I might be closing in on 6 sales already.

[Hunter]

Curious to see where you got this info from. I might be closing in on 6 sales already.

This only applies to selling handguns. Law states only 5 transactions can be done without a FFL license here in CA. There is no limit to how many firearms one can sell per each transaction..

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Curious to see where you got this info from. I might be closing in on 6 sales already.

It's in CPC Section 12070.

12070. (a) No person shall sell, lease, or transfer firearms unless he or she has been issued a license pursuant to Section 12071. Any person violating this section is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(b) Subdivision (a) does not include any of the following:
(4) The infrequent sale, lease, or transfer of firearms.

(c)(1) As used in this section, "infrequent" means: (A) For pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person, less than six transactions per calendar year. For this purpose, "transaction" means a single sale, lease, or transfer of any number of pistols, revolvers, or other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person. (B) For firearms other than pistols, revolvers, or other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person, occasional and without regularity.

[gbp]

It is the seller that is having an issue and I was trying to find the exact wording that said it would be allowed. I see that it is somewhat a round about way of getting there involving several PC's. Was not trying to p..s anyone off just trying to find everything so I could make my case.
ThanX

[The SoCal Gunner]

It's in CPC Section 12070.

Thanks. I'll need to save this info for future reference. Now I really need to look into how many pistols I have sold this year otherwise it's a misdemeanor :mad:.