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Pascal
06-07-2008, 7:10 PM
Well, today we had a first in California!!!!!! A 22LR Tactical Precision Match.

Imagine shooting 10 stages for 5 bucks and in many, many aspects the same fun and challenge as the “other” matches.

This was an new and interesting crowd – a mix of 22 silhouette shooters, Long distance tactical precision shooters and just people wanting to do a fun, affordable match with 22LR. I would have thought that we would have much more people coming from the larger precision matches but more then half of the people that showed up were new faces.

I must say, it was VERY interesting to participate and I learned quite a few things that I can apply in the other matches. The mental aspect is the same, I have NO DOUBT that shooting many of those inexpensive matches would help any shooter in the other precision matches. 50% is a mental game and learning also how to “unstress” yourself. Understanding the wind is actually MUCH MORE crucial as well. The 22LR does not allow for a lot of “mistakes” – mostly at longer distances. I’ve also learned some new things about my “hold” on the rifle. Because of the low recoil, I was able to see a mistake I was doing sometimes with my 308, which is “relaxing”my hold a bit. With the 22LR that mistake was extremely obvious. I started the match very badly with all my rounds going to the left because I was “too relaxed” due to no recoil and it actually took me 3 stages to start to understand what was doing on and correct it. So I had a lot of catching up to do during all the other stages.

So I’ve learned quite a few new things that I can apply, well worth the fee.

But enough rambling…

The gears were interesting! We had all kinds of rifles on the line. In the other tactical precision and sniper matches I’ve attended, we usually see a lot of similar rifles. This wasn’t the case. We had bolt action Savages, Anschutz, Sako, Ruger 10/22s, etc…

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-1.jpg

We only have partial results but the top 3 shooters were shooting the following:

Wes Chilton shooting a Savage BTVS - Bushnell 3200 scope – Wolf Match Target

Mark Edgreen Sako Finnfire, Nikon BuckMaster 4.5x14 scope and shooting Lapua M

Pascal shooting shooting a Savage BTVS - Bushnell 3200 scope – Wolf Match Target

Alan Campbell (#4) was shooting a custom 10/22 with a Green Mountain Barrel, Mueller 4.5 x 14 - no data on ammo used.

Pascal
06-07-2008, 7:12 PM
So a semi-automatic was not really an advantage as I originally thought which is kind of interesting or it may also be that it is because the top 3 shooters are “used” to that kind of matches – future matches may give more information because many of those 10/22s can be deadly accurate.

Here is a view of the first stages setup. Basically nice precision from 25 yards to 100 yards. This was an excellent exercise in knowing your dope/elevation BUT also understanding what a little light breeze can do to the 22. A slight change of wind was deadly if you didn’t notice it.

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-1b.jpg

And here are some of the shooters getting ready and in action…

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-2.jpg

Wes…THE MAN WHO COULD NOT MISS THAT DAY!!!!!!!! He and Mark were battling for the top spot until the end!

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-3.jpg

In the dirt (well some had rugs) – sandbag and bipods

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-4.jpg

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-5.jpg

Timberwolf had the terrific idea of placing me on the first spot. (Thanks!). So my target is #1. Frankly I thought the 25 yards target was a cinch until we started and DOO!!! I was letting the rifle having some “free recoil” and shooting left.

Those are tiny-bitsy dots!

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-7.jpg

Pascal
06-07-2008, 7:13 PM
50 Yards – One inch squares. You can see by looking at the some of the results below that it wasn’t that easy –

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-6.jpg

I didn’t take any photos of the 75 and 100 yards targets.

We also had to shoot 2 steel targets at 150 and 200 yards with a nice little breeze coming from the left. Those steel targets were SMALL. If I recall the 150 yards was 4 inches and the 200 yards was 6 inches.

We also had to shoot 2 steel targets at 150 and 200 yards with a nice little breeze coming from the left. Those steel targets were SMALL. If I recall the 150 yards was 4 inches and the 200 yards was 6 inches.

Wes just could NOT miss. He had both with first round hits. Around 6 shooters hit the 150 yards target and 4 hit the 200 yards target.

This was the work of Mark and Wes at 200 yards:

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/200yards.jpg

We then moved to a new location for more fun, shooting mostly at 50 yards (pretty much the equivalent of shooting the 308 at 100 yards in many aspects).

We had various positional shooters and familiar stages for those who do tactical precision matches such as “Know Your Limits”, “ Hostage”, etc…

Here are some action shots!

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-8.jpg

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-9.jpg

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-9b.jpg

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-9c.jpg

Pascal
06-07-2008, 7:14 PM
Yep Mark, although it’s not broken – u got the points. Nice shooting!
http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-9d.jpg

For the hostage shot we had to shoot standing at 2 clay targets then run to the drum and shoot the hostage. The ratio was around 40% hits and 60% dead hostages. People who shot an hostage lost A LOT of points, like 100. Good for a bit of pressure. And yeah, Timberwolf MADE you take the shot.

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-10.jpg

Saigon1965
06-07-2008, 7:14 PM
What were the stages? how were they set up? I've never been to one thus the question. Nevermind, I post this as you were doing the rest.

Pascal
06-07-2008, 7:15 PM
More shots of shooters and their gear:


http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-11.jpg

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-12.jpg

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-13.jpg

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-17.jpg

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-18.jpg

Pascal
06-07-2008, 7:15 PM
Some of the results. 50 Yards standing position:

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-15.jpg

Know Your Limits target (Shot from prone). It was a very conservative crowd. Most people were happy with the 2 first dots (you miss all your points if you miss a dot) and did not try further.

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-14.jpg

Pascal
06-07-2008, 7:16 PM
Here is some of the crowd…we’re missing a few shooters (including myself taking the photo)

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-16.jpg


The man of the day was: NovaDesign..the man who could not miss!

http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-19.jpg

2nd Place: Shooter_25 - It was a battle until the end between NovaDesign and Shooter_65.
http://www.tacticalprecisionrimfire.com/JuneMatch/22LR-20.jpg

I managed third place, playing catch-up all the way!

Conclusion:

Folks, this is well worth it.

I’ve probably shot 20 matches in the last 2 years and shooting that 22LR match I still managed to learn quite a few new things. Heck, I learn something new at every match but some better understanding of the importance of proper “hold” of the rifle, eye-relief and also the demand for high precision wind reading at short distance was priceless.

The mental game is the same. As I said earlier, this is the PERFECT introduction to larger matches and understanding how they work. New shooters can apply the basics such as elevation chart, positional shooting, etc…

Financially – 10 stages for 5 dollars of ammo. Need I say more?

Even for an experience shooter, participating has the same “feeling” as being in the other matches. It’s fun, challenging and a good test of your skills.

Thanks Timberwolf for making this happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pascal
06-07-2008, 7:17 PM
Saigon 1965 - Timberwolf who put the match together will have a separate thread with an explanation/details of all the stages. This is mostly photos and my own report/experience.

Saigon1965
06-07-2008, 7:22 PM
Thanks, we'll look for it. Looks like you guys/gal had great time.

Teletiger7
06-07-2008, 7:50 PM
Good report. I agree with what you said about the importance of "hold" and position of rifle. I quickly learned that if i felt unsteady or not positioned properly then it would quickly show in my shot placement. Also, this what a good way to know what works or what needs to be modified in terms of gear/equipment/etc.

postal
06-07-2008, 7:50 PM
Oh yeah! Was a great time!

Great to see Pascal and Bill again, and meet some new people. Bill had an excellent COF for us which likely took awhile to figure the right sized targets for what distance. I think he did an excellent job both planning and running the match. Targets were challenging- And was a ball.

Need to buy some better ammo and get dope- then I cant wait for the next one!

Love to see this as a regular match at APS and WEGC. Vu might give it a try up north too.

postal
06-07-2008, 7:55 PM
Good report. I agree with what you said about the importance of "hold" and position of rifle. I quickly learned that if i felt unsteady or not positioned properly then it would quickly show in my shot placement. Also, this what a good way to know what works or what needs to be modified in terms of gear/equipment/etc.


I've noticed today, that hold/position/NPA is FAR more important with a bolt gun than auto- The bolt requires you to remove a hand to cycle the action, and NPA is critical to remaining on target, where the auto, a slightly unnatural position can be held for the string without losing sight picture/grip. Not that it showed on my targets! But I feel the auto allows a sloppier position- though detrimental, is workable.

Fjold
06-07-2008, 8:11 PM
I was shooter #2 next to Pascal so you know who you're laughing at as you look at the targets.