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allan
06-06-2008, 7:38 AM
I cannot find explicit documentation saying the Mk4 clicks SMOA vs. TMOA but the manual says '1MOA = 1in @ 100yrd' so I'm guessing SMOA.


Just wanted to confirm with you guys, I know one of you knows this :)

wildcard
06-06-2008, 7:40 AM
I've heard that at least some Leupold use SMOA (purposely calibrated to be). We had a discussion here that referenced that a few weeks ago. I say call up Leupold and get a difinitive answer and let us know!

Timberwolf
06-06-2008, 8:04 AM
You need to call Leupy and get someone on the line that knows the difference. The last I checked though Leupy and Nikon both use Shooters MOA.

Tacticalintervention
06-06-2008, 8:08 AM
MK4 is Military and supposed to be true MOA. With that said you wont know the differnce out to 1000 yards anyway. Unless you think you can see .4" at 1000 yards. The you are super man anyway.

wildcard
06-06-2008, 8:20 AM
MK4 is Military and supposed to be true MOA. With that said you wont know the differnce out to 1000 yards anyway. Unless you think you can see .4" at 1000 yards. The you are super man anyway.

Isn't it more like 18"?

SMOA = 1
TMOA = 1.047

Assuming it reguires 36 SMOA to reach 1000 yds, the difference is .047 X 36 = 1.69 TMOA

That's more like a 18" difference?

EDITED TO ADD:
I see what you mean now.. small changes assuming he already had his "dope" down.

Tacticalintervention
06-06-2008, 8:29 AM
I got what you mean. Yes if he is just running dope and dialing the scope based on a Ballistic Comp dope . That would make a bigger difference. I was thinking MK4 M3 fixed 10X. I am old and forget that they now call many scopes MK4's My bad.

rksimple
06-06-2008, 10:27 AM
You need to call Leupy and get someone on the line that knows the difference. The last I checked though Leupy and Nikon both use Shooters MOA.

Call them on 2 different days and get 2 different people on the line and they will each give you a different answer. It happened to me.

Just shoot and get the best dope you can. Pay attention to trends with your scope/rifle vs. what a ballistic calculator says. Try to get out at 100 yards with a big piece of butcher paper and run a box test as well as testing 30 MOA or so up to see what it does.