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Timberwolf
06-01-2008, 7:48 PM
APS – Tac / Prec Match Results 05-31-08

Here are the results from Saturday’s match. My report will be in another thread.

Six Stages – Maximum Score 600

Fist Place – Joseph Hernandez – 340
Second Place – Pascal Bauder – 320
Third Place – Adam Bacon – 295

Scores by shooter number

1. Matt Evans – 130
2. Joe Gallegos – 140
3. Wes Chilton – 90
4. Joseph Hernandez – 340 . . . First Place
5. Cameron Wong – 100
6. Steve Ikeda – 65
7. Brad Bolves – 140
8. Johnny Vitale - <10
9. Adam Bacon – 295 . . . Third Place
10. Philip Kano - <10
11. Pascal Bauder – 320 . . . Second Place
12. Luc Bauder – 190
13. Jason Chan – 170
14. Ryan Kerr – 120
15. Randall Rausch – 190
16. Ken Takashi – 90
17. Randy Yoshii - <30


Congratulations to all for a very well shot match. Honorable mention goes to the top three.

Thanks for a great match y’all and a hearty congrats to today’s winners.

The next match will be June 28, 2008 so mark your calendars accordingly.

rksimple
06-01-2008, 7:56 PM
Great match. Thanks for the hard work twolf.

wildcard
06-01-2008, 8:00 PM
It was a great match. Thanks for putting it together TWolf. Too lazy to sort the scores though? :)

Timberwolf
06-01-2008, 8:03 PM
It was a great match. Thanks for putting it together TWolf. Too lazy to sort the scores though? :)

Lazy nah, too tired yep

rksimple
06-01-2008, 8:10 PM
Don't worry about sorting. I'm just glad I finished in positive numbers after nailing the hostage.

Timberwolf
06-01-2008, 8:19 PM
Don't worry about sorting. I'm just glad I finished in positive numbers after nailing the hostage.

Don't feel bad - I nailed the hostage the first time I test ran it (sshhhhh - the secret for that window with an AI stock is to use a ten round mag and push it forward against the back of the sill :) )

ar15barrels
06-01-2008, 8:37 PM
That hostage hit cost me a lot more than Adam's little black mark on know your limits. :(
I could have gamed that hostage target and been up 100pts.

rksimple
06-01-2008, 8:37 PM
Good idea. I'll try it in the future. Normally the 10's get in the way. Not on that stage I guess.

ar15barrels
06-01-2008, 8:38 PM
the secret for that window with an AI stock is to use a ten round mag and push it forward against the back of the sill

Thanks for the tip.
I have 10 round HS mags.

ar15barrels
06-01-2008, 8:40 PM
Sorted by score.

Joseph Hernandez – 340 . . . First Place
Pascal Bauder – 320 . . . Second Place
Adam Bacon – 295 . . . Third Place
Luc Bauder – 190
Randall Rausch – 190
Jason Chan – 170
Joe Gallegos – 140
Brad Bolves – 140
Matt Evans – 130
Ryan Kerr – 120
Cameron Wong – 100
Ken Takashi – 90
Wes Chilton – 90
Steve Ikeda – 65
Johnny Vitale - <10
Philip Kano - <10
Randy Yoshii - <30

Cypriss32
06-01-2008, 9:40 PM
I still am demanding a recount. My hit was in the circle....

Just messing. Good match good times. My barrel will be just fine Ryan. As soon as thats ones toasted and cant shoot VLDS mag lengh. Ill switch to SMKS and AMAX. After that ill pick up the M70/GAT while my 700 is rebarreled. A side note; upon sitting in the sun for 20mins, my rifle was super hot. Its not black anymore to say the least. I just finished a nice rattle can paint job.

Vu 308
06-01-2008, 9:52 PM
LOL...WTF happened to Steve?! aka bolo....

Cypriss32
06-01-2008, 9:54 PM
Steve needs a new barrel......

Vu 308
06-01-2008, 9:54 PM
Is that the excuse he told you? That guy has about a dozen new barrels ready to roll.

What did he shoot 260AI?

Vu 308
06-01-2008, 9:57 PM
By the way..good shooting...looks like the wizzzzzzzzzzzm came strong.

Cypriss32
06-01-2008, 10:21 PM
That thing went major south when we sat in the sun......

Novadesigns
06-01-2008, 10:23 PM
I had a great time, thanks Twolf! Can't wait for the next round. I was so close on that buffalo shot, right between the legs. Its a lady buff now! ;)

ar15barrels
06-01-2008, 10:31 PM
A side note; upon sitting in the sun for 20mins, my rifle was super hot.
Its not black anymore to say the least. I just finished a nice rattle can paint job.

Yep.
Mine's going desert tan now too.

Cypriss32
06-01-2008, 10:36 PM
Also the 5.5-22x is a little high on the power range. Prolly a 3.5-15x is in order.

ar15barrels
06-01-2008, 10:55 PM
Also the 5.5-22x is a little high on the power range. Prolly a 3.5-15x is in order.

I have rarely found myself wanting more power than my 4.5-14, but that 3-18 IOR is calling me, mostly for it's FFP and going all the way down to 3x.

PUFF
06-02-2008, 6:53 AM
Hey Vu, my other barrels are for my next projects. The 260AI might not be dead yet. Shot 3 groups after the match. All were about 1MOA, but one had 4 in about .35. Might be a carbon ring. Going to try some of my secret juice down the bore to see if it helps. It did wonders for my 6AI when It started blowing up bullets.
By the way Vu, you should be getting excited about that barrel going south. The only other fresh tube I have in that contour is a 308!!!

rksimple
06-02-2008, 7:47 AM
I still am demanding a recount. My hit was in the circle....

Just messing. Good match good times. My barrel will be just fine Ryan. As soon as thats ones toasted and cant shoot VLDS mag lengh. Ill switch to SMKS and AMAX. After that ill pick up the M70/GAT while my 700 is rebarreled. A side note; upon sitting in the sun for 20mins, my rifle was super hot. Its not black anymore to say the least. I just finished a nice rattle can paint job.

Whatever you do, don't burn it up before north/south. If you can stay consistent with it, it'll be a laser.

Pascal
06-02-2008, 8:39 AM
Thank you so much Timberwolf - awesome match as usual.

I really have to work on my long distance, those 840 yards shots are killing me and pretty much everyone else too. Looks like I have to do some desert weekend trip one of those days and get back into some long distance fundamentals.

Well done Joseph and Adam! and they were quite a few new faces as well.

If it's your first or second match, don't worry about scores/position - very rarely one does great at a first match. Randall was an exception but he also does a lot of 3 gun matches. It's all about learning and very fast your scores improve. Hernandez is a good example, he started slowly and he is a badass now. I didn't even see him coming - was a total surprise. Adam/jason are also training hard and it is showing.

Matches are also 50% mental and aside from stress, etc... there are strategic decisions to make. Do you take the hostage shot if you're not sure? That a lot of points deducted if you miss. How do you shoot if you do well or bad. Do you take risks or play it safe? (Know your limits), etc...

In such a small match, the first 2 stages should tell your strategy (if you have one).

Looks like Luc learned well from his training in Arizona 2 weeks ago. I've never seen him so dead-on precise - he got all 5 of the 3/4 inch targets. The hostage shot got him though.

I look forward to the 22 match next week - this will be a lot of fun.

Thanks!

Pascal

PS: I think I only shot 22 rounds. Holly smoke, that was a lot of fun for such a low count.

EmphaticThumb
06-02-2008, 9:02 AM
Thanks for a great match as always Twolf. The shotgun was fun.

ar15barrels
06-02-2008, 9:09 AM
Matches are also 50% mental and aside from stress, etc... there are strategic decisions to make. Do you take the hostage shot if you're not sure? That a lot of points deducted if you miss. How do you shoot if you do well or bad. Do you take risks or play it safe? (Know your limits), etc...

I think I only shot 22 rounds.

The mental part goes across all types of competitive shooting.
I gotta figure out my limits...

20 rounds for me.

StraightShooter
06-02-2008, 11:01 AM
I would love to come out and shoot with you guys at APS sometime but its 2 1/2 hours away. I live in Murrieta/Temecula. Does anyone live down my way that would want to carpool? Also, do you have to be a member of the range to shoot matches there? I am already a member to two other ranges and so im not sure I can justify buying another one especially so far away.

rksimple
06-02-2008, 11:05 AM
No need to be a member. Just show up and shoot.

StraightShooter
06-02-2008, 11:09 AM
Ok, great. Maybe I could drive to Randall's place and mooch a ride from there. :)

wildcard
06-02-2008, 11:38 AM
Ok, great. Maybe I could drive to Randall's place and mooch a ride from there. :)

You're going to mooch off the king of ride moochers? :)

StraightShooter
06-02-2008, 1:43 PM
You're going to mooch off the king of ride moochers? :)

Well....... i gave him 140 pieces of once fired FC .308 brass at the Pala long range class last week so i wouldn't feel all that guilty ;). Just kiddin Randy, I can always steal my dads prius for a weekend but then id look like a tard when I show up at the range.:mad::D

ar15barrels
06-02-2008, 1:57 PM
Ok, great. Maybe I could drive to Randall's place and mooch a ride from there. :)

Of course, just don't be late.
I don't wait for late people.

You're going to mooch off the king of ride moochers? :)

I'm just trying to be environmentally friendly. ;)
Besides, when someone else drives, I always buy the food.

ar15barrels
06-02-2008, 1:59 PM
I can always steal my dads prius for a weekend but then id look like a tard when I show up at the range.:mad::D

There are other shooters driving a Prius too.
Since you'll be rolling right by my place in that Prius so you might as well pick me up too. :D

Timberwolf
06-02-2008, 2:00 PM
Besides, when someone else drives, I always buy the food.

Great - be at my house 0600 Sat morning and I'll give you a ride to the 22LR tact match

ar15barrels
06-02-2008, 2:01 PM
Great - be at my house 0600 Sat morning and I'll give you a ride to the 22LR tact match

That's sorta out of the way. ;)

I would consider shooting the 22 match if anyone had a rifle to loan me and they had the dope figured out.
All I have for 22 rifles are either open sighted or red dot sighted.
None would be appropriate much past 100yds.

StraightShooter
06-02-2008, 2:05 PM
There are other shooters driving a Prius too.
Since you'll be rolling right by my place in that Prius so you might as well pick me up too. :D

Ha Ha, ok....... I guess we can split the gas money from your house to the range. But you gotta let me watch how you machine stuff on a lathe someday because I wanna learn.:D

wildcard
06-02-2008, 2:10 PM
Ha Ha, ok....... I guess we can split the gas money from your house to the range. But you gotta let me watch how you machine stuff on a lathe someday because I wanna learn.:D

You may be better served taking a class and having a understanding of whats going on first.

Even if you wanted to learn threading.. the action of doing so it's easy, but you have to understand some of the math behind it and know how make the threading tool (most likely 60 degrees) which is a whole lesson in itself!

ar15barrels
06-02-2008, 2:14 PM
Even if you wanted to learn threading.. the action of doing so it's easy, but you have to understand some of the math behind it and know how make the threading tool (most likely 60 degrees) which is a whole lesson in itself!

They have you grinding your own threading tool?
I did that years ago, but indexable tooling is the way to go anymore.

I have an Aloris HSS threading toolblock for my lathe.
As it wears, you just surface grind a couple thousandths off the top.
All the reliefs are built into the toolblock.

Knowing how to grind tools (cutter geometry) is really important though when you start making special form tools.

StraightShooter
06-02-2008, 2:18 PM
Well im familiar with basic machining on a lathe and really its just the threading that I am worried about. Im gonna have a guy give me some lessons at the place I work at but i would like to maybe see just exactly how muzzle brakes and other stuff relating to guns is done.

wildcard
06-02-2008, 2:20 PM
They have you grinding your own threading tool?
I did that years ago, but indexable tooling is the way to go anymore.

I have an Aloris HSS threading toolblock for my lathe.
As it wears, you just surface grind a couple thousandths off the top.
All the reliefs are built into the toolblock.

Knowing how to grind tools (cutter geometry) is really important though when you start making special form tools.

Yup.. learned how to grind cutting and threading tools right down to rounding the edges when necessary. Who would have thought there were so angles and surfaces involved. And when some exacting precision is necessary, we used certain blocks to mount the tools in to surface grind everything just right. I learned a whole lot..

I think I may learn CNC programming and take more advanced classes next semester.

StraightShooter
06-02-2008, 2:23 PM
What do you think about this (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=196313&t=11082005) threading bit? I need something that can thread all the way up to a 90 degree shoulder. I was looking in the shop and all I found were some triangular carbide bits but those wouldnt work for what I need i dont think.

wildcard
06-02-2008, 3:08 PM
What do you think about this (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=196313&t=11082005) threading bit? I need something that can thread all the way up to a 90 degree shoulder. I was looking in the shop and all I found were some triangular carbide bits but those wouldnt work for what I need i dont think.

Looks like a standard threading bit to me. If you have a 90 degree shoulder, could you not simply make a relief cut at the end of the thread next to the shoulder?

StraightShooter
06-02-2008, 3:12 PM
Looks like a standard threading bit to me. If you have a 90 degree shoulder, could you not simply make a relief cut at the end of the thread next to the shoulder?

No....... that would be too smart :D. Good idea.

ar15barrels
06-02-2008, 4:44 PM
You grind the tool like this to get up closer to a shoulder:

http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/114/gfx/large/3364a29p2l.gif

You still need a relief.
Only way to thread right to a shoulder is with a NC or CNC machine.

wildcard
06-02-2008, 4:54 PM
You grind the tool like this to get up closer to a shoulder:

http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/114/gfx/large/3364a29p2l.gif

You still need a relief.
Only way to thread right to a shoulder is with a NC or CNC machine.

Or you make that short edge just short enough to cut the depth of your thread :)

Of course you would either need the reflexes of a cat or take it REAL slow when you feed it in.

You'd most likely slam into your workpiece though..

SDS-Ruger
06-02-2008, 7:37 PM
tanks twolf for puting on the match it was a lot of fun even though i got my butt kicked in the scores. If anyone found a little pos knife that looks likr it has been beaten to hell could you give it to adam cause i seemed to have lost it during the match at some point don't know when.

Cypriss32
06-02-2008, 8:45 PM
tanks twolf for puting on the match it was a lot of fun even though i got my butt kicked in the scores. If anyone found a little pos knife that looks likr it has been beaten to hell could you give it to adam cause i seemed to have lost it during the match at some point don't know when.

What kind of *** calls themselves SDS-Ruger?
San Diego state ruger.......

ar15barrels
06-02-2008, 9:45 PM
What kind of *** calls themselves SDS-Ruger?

I was asked nicely by Ivan NOT to call people gay, even if it's funny.
Perhaps that's good advice for you too.

SDS-Ruger
06-04-2008, 3:43 PM
ok emo cypriss32 who dyes his hair black

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 3:59 PM
ok emo cypriss32 who dyes his hair black

Something tells me that SDS-Ruger can give us lots more things to give Adam a hard time about. ;)

Timberwolf
06-04-2008, 4:09 PM
:lurk5:

y'all are going to get another one of my threads locked

wildcard
06-04-2008, 4:12 PM
ok emo cypriss32 who dyes his hair black

Tell us more.

Cypriss32
06-04-2008, 4:12 PM
...........

Timberwolf
06-04-2008, 4:18 PM
back on subject . . . anyone hear from Pete since he was a no show

wildcard
06-04-2008, 4:24 PM
back on subject . . . anyone hear from Pete since he was a no show

I was wondering the same thing. Tried calling him on Sunday and today but he didn't pick up. Phone rings so thats a good sign.

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 4:30 PM
back on subject . . . anyone hear from Pete since he was a no show

Maybe his wife still has his balls in a jar?

Timberwolf
06-04-2008, 4:31 PM
Maybe his wife still has his balls in a jar?

what'd he do?

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 4:31 PM
what'd he do?

Shoot too much.

wildcard
06-04-2008, 4:32 PM
Maybe his wife still has his balls in a jar?

Haha. I highly doubt that's it.

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 4:35 PM
Haha. I highly doubt that's it.

Well, since he's not here to defend himself, now is a great time to have fun at his expense. ;)

wildcard
06-04-2008, 4:38 PM
Well, since he's not here to defend himself, now is a great time to have fun at his expense. ;)

Remind me to log on at least bi-daily if i'm ever on vacation.

Timberwolf
06-04-2008, 4:40 PM
Remind me to log on at least bi-daily if i'm ever on vacation.

what's vacation???? me forget

Cypriss32
06-04-2008, 4:46 PM
I need my F-in paper bill, The other one blew away......

Timberwolf
06-04-2008, 4:50 PM
I need my F-in paper bill, The other one blew away......

Just curious, just how many times have you used the "my dog ate my homework" excuse.

I'll try to email you one tonight - now this makes number 3 and its the charm

Cypriss32
06-04-2008, 4:51 PM
No I didnt get one from you saterday.... I took off, had to goto work.
Ill come by and drop it off or mail it to you.

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 5:30 PM
what's vacation???? me forget

That's the time you take off your regular job to work on your second job.

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 5:34 PM
Remind me to log on at least bi-daily if i'm ever on vacation.

Quiet people are safe from attack.
It's the ones who stick their heads out of the foxhole that take the bullets. ;)

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 5:38 PM
how many times have you used the "my dog ate my homework" excuse.

My dog really did eat my homework once when I was about 12.
I caught her in the act and took it back.
I took the slobbered-on paper (which I had actually completed) to school.
The teacher got a good laugh and gave me credit for it.

Cypriss32
06-04-2008, 8:08 PM
Anyone want to shoot at ASR in the AM? Its 1/2 price day.

wildcard
06-04-2008, 9:51 PM
Anyone want to shoot at ASR in the AM? Its 1/2 price day.

I'll be there with my new rig. I just finished installing the scope and hopefully it's properly leveled!

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 9:56 PM
Anyone want to shoot at ASR in the AM? Its 1/2 price day.

I'll be there with my new rig. I just finished installing the scope and hopefully it's properly leveled!

It must be nice to not have a day job...

Cypriss32
06-04-2008, 10:48 PM
I have to work saterdays. In turn I get one day off during the week. It really really sucks.

Timberwolf
06-04-2008, 11:09 PM
I have to work saterdays. In turn I get one day off during the week. It really really sucks.

Ah gee, a day off during the week because you work on Saturday . . . lets see I work Mon, Tues, Weds, Thurs, Friday, Sat, Sunday . . . wonder whats missing, oh yeah, a day off

Timberwolf
06-04-2008, 11:10 PM
That's the time you take off your regular job to work on your second job.

Shhhhhhhh (in a whisper) I like double time pay

wildcard
06-04-2008, 11:24 PM
It must be nice to not have a day job...

.gov baby. I'm scheduled Mon-Thu :) Still get some spare time during the week though.

Cypriss32
06-04-2008, 11:28 PM
Ill see you tommarrow. Couple of the buddies are coming tomarrow.

wildcard
06-04-2008, 11:30 PM
F-ing A.. I stripped a TORX screw when torquing down my scope base. The driver tip snapped at about 20 in lbs.. grr. Going to be rough when it's time to take it off.

wildcard
06-04-2008, 11:30 PM
Ill see you tommarrow. Couple of the buddies are coming tomarrow.

Going to get a target frame?

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 11:43 PM
I have to work saterdays. In turn I get one day off during the week. It really really sucks.

I know the drill.
My last job had me working tuesday through saturday.
Of course that was 12 years ago and I was just starting to shoot matches back then.

ar15barrels
06-04-2008, 11:45 PM
F-ing A.. I stripped a TORX screw when torquing down my scope base.
The driver tip snapped at about 20 in lbs.. grr.

Maybe that's why the torque rating is 15 in-lbs?

A trick when you remove that one...
Take a proper wrench and heat it up red hot (yes, you will destroy it).
Engage the screw with the red-hot wrench and hold it there a few seconds while the wrench cools and the screw head heats up.
This will make the screw expand ever so slightly.
Quickly switch to a regular wrench and break the screw loose while it's hot and before the heat leaves the screw and goes into the adjoining receiver and scope rail.

rksimple
06-05-2008, 7:14 AM
Maybe that's why the torque rating is 15 in-lbs?

A trick when you remove that one...
Take a proper wrench and heat it up red hot (yes, you will destroy it).
Engage the screw with the red-hot wrench and hold it there a few seconds while the wrench cools and the screw head heats up.
This will make the screw expand ever so slightly.
Quickly switch to a regular wrench and break the screw loose while it's hot and before the heat leaves the screw and goes into the adjoining receiver and scope rail.

Thats the hard way. I had that happen on the savage. I took my high speed handpiece (yes, right there in the operatory with my rifle) and just cut a slot for a standard screwdriver into the head of the torx screw. Got it out with a flat screwdriver with no swearing involved.

wildcard
06-05-2008, 7:36 AM
Thats the hard way. I had that happen on the savage. I took my high speed handpiece (yes, right there in the operatory with my rifle) and just cut a slot for a standard screwdriver into the head of the torx screw. Got it out with a flat screwdriver with no swearing involved.

What did you use to cut the slot? I would imagine that the screw head sits flush with the surface and a Dremel is too big w/o cutting into the surface.

rksimple
06-05-2008, 8:02 AM
What did you use to cut the slot? I would imagine that the screw head sits flush with the surface and a Dremel is too big w/o cutting into the surface.

My handpiece ("dental drill" as it were). I used a bur about 3/4 of a millimeter in diameter spinning 340-400k rpm. Dental instruments work well for 'smithing.

ETA: The head of the screw sat well below the level of the base. I had to be careful as I got close to the edges.

Timberwolf
06-05-2008, 8:42 AM
My handpiece ("dental drill" as it were). I used a bur about 3/4 of a millimeter in diameter spinning 340-400k rpm. Dental instruments work well for 'smithing.

ETA: The head of the screw sat well below the level of the base. I had to be careful as I got close to the edges.

You had your rifle at the office? Bet your staff never gives you any problems.

rksimple
06-05-2008, 9:01 AM
You had your rifle at the office? Bet your staff never gives you any problems.

Yeah, it was after hours, but the staff was still there. During deer season, I bring my rifle in the gunsligner to the office and keep it in my private office (we leave right after the last patient of the day. Hunting grounds are 10 minutes away.). They don't give me too many weird looks.

Timberwolf
06-05-2008, 9:22 AM
Yeah, it was after hours, but the staff was still there. During deer season, I bring my rifle in the gunsligner to the office and keep it in my private office (we leave right after the last patient of the day. Hunting grounds are 10 minutes away.). They don't give me too many weird looks.

Must be nice

ar15barrels
06-05-2008, 9:42 AM
Thats the hard way. I had that happen on the savage. I took my high speed handpiece (yes, right there in the operatory with my rifle) and just cut a slot for a standard screwdriver into the head of the torx screw. Got it out with a flat screwdriver with no swearing involved.

I was talking about removing the screw without any damage to the screw or surrounding base.
Your high-speed handpiece works too, but it leaves parts a little more marked up afterward. ;)

rksimple
06-05-2008, 10:03 AM
I was talking about removing the screw without any damage to the screw or surrounding base.
Your high-speed handpiece works too, but it leaves parts a little more marked up afterward. ;)

No, the base came away unscathed. It was a buck fifty screw, that was stripped anyway, so I figure its cheaper than destroying a wrench. Trick is to stop the slot before running into the base. It was just like cutting a cavity prep. I also had to modify the slot driver to make it not as tapered. Upon putting any torque on it, the driver wanted to lift up. I made it more square and it engaged the head better.

Timberwolf
06-05-2008, 10:13 AM
It was just like cutting a cavity prep.

Did you have to numb the rifle first? :p

rksimple
06-05-2008, 10:23 AM
Did you have to numb the rifle first? :p

LOL. That was good. But no, I didn't. It never complained. Gave the base to my pops and sold the rifle. Everyone was happy.

ar15barrels
06-05-2008, 11:15 AM
No, the base came away unscathed. It was a buck fifty screw, that was stripped anyway, so I figure its cheaper than destroying a wrench. Trick is to stop the slot before running into the base. It was just like cutting a cavity prep.

I forgot you were a dentist.
You probably have the hands and tools for delicate work like that.

Most guys would have taken a dremel cutoff wheel and made the slot in the screw and cut into the base too.

Allen or torx wrenches are only like 30 to 70 cents so it's not a big deal to heat one up cherry red if it saves more expensive damage.

Timberwolf
06-05-2008, 11:20 AM
I still have this picture in my mind of a rifle laying in a dentists chair with the little bib tied around its stock with Ryan sitting beside it with one of those nasty drills (sorry flash back) telling it to open its bolt and say aaaaaw

ar15barrels
06-05-2008, 11:25 AM
I still have this picture in my mind of a rifle laying in a dentists chair with the little bib tied around its stock with Ryan sitting beside it with one of those nasty drills (sorry flash back) telling it to open its bolt and say aaaaaw

I'm just wondering what his assistants were saying behind his back. :sleeping:

rksimple
06-05-2008, 11:52 AM
I'm just wondering what his assistants were saying behind his back. :sleeping:

They all want to go shooting now! Many have never been and I keep promising them a trip out there. Maybe I could get them to show up at a match.

ar15barrels
06-05-2008, 11:55 AM
They all want to go shooting now! Many have never been and I keep promising them a trip out there. Maybe I could get them to show up at a match.

Are they cute?

rksimple
06-05-2008, 11:55 AM
Are they cute?

The ones that want to go shooting are.

ar15barrels
06-05-2008, 12:11 PM
The ones that want to go shooting are.

Are they single?

Timberwolf
06-05-2008, 12:13 PM
Are they single?

:nono:

ar15barrels
06-05-2008, 1:22 PM
:nono:

I was just looking out for our man Adam. ;)

Timberwolf
06-05-2008, 1:29 PM
I was just looking out for our man Adam. ;)

Not touching that one - though I soooo could

rksimple
06-05-2008, 1:29 PM
One of them is single. But I don't think she's into dyed black hair or short mags.:D Sorry Adam.

Timberwolf
06-05-2008, 1:33 PM
Besides doesn't he allegedly have a bevy of girls :gene:

Cypriss32
06-05-2008, 3:04 PM
One of them is single. But I don't think she's into dyed black hair or short mags.:D Sorry Adam.

omg...... Not be mad.. Im shure she will enjoy shooting. Bring her out with us.

Cypriss32
06-05-2008, 3:05 PM
Besides doesn't he allegedly have a bevy of girls :gene:

You can never have too many.....

Timberwolf
06-05-2008, 3:06 PM
You can never have too many.....


send me your email addy jr so I can get you the N/S form