Storing other people's guns

[FlyingPen]

I have a friend who wants to buy a new pistol for the first time and will be doing so soon. He asked me if he could store it in my house because:

A. His gf is not comfortable with a gun in the house yet
B. He doesn't have a safe yet and since he's moving soon, not practical to buy one immediately

Are there any legal issues involved in storing someone else's pistol in my safe or transporting it beyond the normal legal stuff?

[CSACANNONEER]

I believe, if it's a legally registered AW or 50BMG rifle he needs to store it at his home or bussiness. Since, it's niether, he can SAFELY store it where ever he want to including, your safe.

[AKman]

There is that pesky little limit of 30 days when loaning a handgun to someone else. I realize this is not a loan, but more than 30 days possession could be made into a problem.

Sales, Loans, or Transfers of Firearms
It is unlawful for a person who is not a licensed firearms dealer pursuant to Penal Code section
12071, to sell, loan, or otherwise transfer a firearm to a non-licensed person unless the sale, loan,
or transfer is completed through a licensed firearms dealer. (Penal Code §§ 12071, 12072, 12082.)
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Exceptions
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2) The dealer licensing and reporting requirements do not apply to the loan of any firearm in the
following instances:

• Infrequent loans of firearms between persons who are personally known to each other for any
lawful purpose, if the loan does not exceed 30 days in duration. (Penal Code § 12078(d).)

Loans exceeding 30 days entitle all parties involved to spend 30 days with the Booty Bandit.

[Lateralus]

He needs a new gf.

If someone you are looking at investing yourself in does not feel comfortable with something else you are investing yourself in, one has to go. And I can promise you she wont protect you from burglars or go with you to the range....

[bohoki]

is the 30 day loan like the 14 day blm camping limit?

could you have your buddy store it and every month go out shooting and have him borrow it for another 29 days for the next trip

what if you lock the gun in a safe and ask your friend to store the safe that you forgot the combo too?

[tombinghamthegreat]

If the LE ask, its been at your house for less than 30 days;)

[MisterDudeManGuy]

Have your buddy put the pistol in a locking pistol case. Put the case in the safe. Keep it for however long. He keeps all of the keys to the pistol case.

Now, how does this measure up against the law? He can't have posession if it is not accessible, can he? It can't be a loan if he can't access it - can it?

[hk-p2000]

this is a good thread cause I need the same info.

[Darklyte27]

I would tell him to buy a Safe first or at the same time so he can store it. Small gun safe like the Gunvault would do fine, around 125$ or so.

Only time I would want to have a friend hold firearms is would be when I went on vacation or something.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

If his GF is not comfortable with firearms in the house then it seems to me that a fun range day is in order.

[Solidmch]

If his GF is not comfortable with firearms in the house then it seems to me that a fun range day is in order.

I would work on getting a new girlfriend!

[ChibiPaw]

I would work on getting a new girlfriend!

Sublet 1 square foot to him. If he's renting, then you're not borrowing, and it's his own space.
Just so happen the rent is $1/month, or a bag of potato chips.

[FlyingPen]

Sometimes I think we forget that human relationships are more important than guns, at least to some people.

Anyways, thanks for the info guys.

If his GF is not comfortable with firearms in the house then it seems to me that a fun range day is in order.

We have, she's petite and dainty and couldn't rack the slide on any of my guns.

[odysseus]

We have, she's petite and dainty and couldn't rack the slide on any of my guns.

Have him get her a nice wheelgun and take her shooting, she might get to like it. :D

[JeffM]

Tell him to take his gf to see The Strangers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482606/) then ask if she is cool with a gun in the house.

[javalos]

He's going through that much trouble for a girlfriend? Sheez, tell him to dump her butt and get someone that respects his view on gun ownership. Girlfriend? Sheeez

[ChibiPaw]

You know, if there is a thing called Crazy Cat Lady.. Why not Crazy Gun Guy? Oh wait, that just doesn't sound good, no matter how you put it.

[onikuma]

You know, if there is a thing called Crazy Cat Lady.. Why not Crazy Gun Guy? Oh wait, that just doesn't sound good, no matter how you put it.

sure it does ;) you just have to find the right group of people with the correct frame of mind ;) probably like.. him? oh he's in that gaggle of crazy gun guys having fun. ;)

[sloguy]

Sometimes I think we forget that human relationships are more important than guns, at least to some people.


there are other humans.

[M I K]

There is that pesky little limit of 30 days when loaning a handgun to someone else. I realize this is not a loan, but more than 30 days possession could be made into a problem.

There is no specification as to how long one needs to have it back in his posession before the NEXT 30 days can begin.

In other words have him take it home for a few minutes on the 29th day and then bring it back again. Now the 30 days starts all over again.

[sloguy]

There is no specification as to how long one needs to have it back in his posession before the NEXT 30 days can begin.

In other words have him take it home for a few minutes on the 29th day and then bring it back again. Now the 30 days starts all over again.

but what is the definition of "infrequent loan"? better to have him lock it up in a case or other container that you dont have keys for. that way you have no access to it and its a storage thing, not a loan.

or am i mistaken?

[M I K]

Yea, there you go.

Charge him a nickel a day rent. Then it's a commercial thing.

[BlackDrop50]

When you register a handgun the address you put is where it is supposed to be stored and kept at..... Hence proof of residence...

[sloguy]

When you register a handgun the address you put is where it is supposed to be stored and kept at..... Hence proof of residence...

source of this info? pc?

[Californio]

When you register a handgun the address you put is where it is supposed to be stored and kept at..... Hence proof of residence...

So if I buy a handgun in California and then decide to store it at my second home in another State, since I am a non-resident of that State I cannot buy it there, I am breaking the law when I remove the handgun from California and it is no longer stored at the address that I gave at the time of purchase?

[-hanko]

Sometimes I think we forget that human relationships are more important than guns, at least to some people.
Some people feel that sharing common interests is essential to a good human relationship.;)

See if she can shoot a revolver??

-hanko

[FlyingPen]

Some people feel that sharing common interests is essential to a good human relationship.;)

See if she can shoot a revolver??

-hanko

He's not THAT into guns, been to the range with me a few times. He picked up a P220 Combat for $700 mostly because I pressured him into it about what a good buy it was for the money. He could take it or leave it but he is in a committed 3 year relationship and will be proposing to her sometime soon. It's not like she's anti-gun, she has a healthy fear of firearms like most people who haven't been exposed to it do. I'm honestly a little surprised at the LEAVE HER !!! sentiment.

As much as I love guns, at the end of the day, it's just a hobby for me and an extremely unlikely last ditch self defense tool at my home. I personally completely disagree with the sentiment that I would end a real relationship over my hobby, as fond of it as I am. Now, if guns were a professional tool for me and I was in dangerous profession, of course it would be different.

[Chris M]

If his GF is not comfortable with firearms in the house then it seems to me that a fun range day is in order.

I completely agree. My wife was totally against me having a gun in the house. When I bought my first rifle (only a year ago) I had planned to store it at my brother's house. A couple trips to the range changed her mind. We've still got only 4 guns, but she's already wanting her own shotgun because she loves shooting clays. She's a recoil junky...she loves shooting my 12ga Rem 870 and 30-06 Rem 700. She doesn't care for the .22..."it's not loud & doesn't kick".