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Gryff
05-20-2008, 4:19 PM
We are holding another IDPA Classifier at Richmond on Saturday, May 31st for those interested in shooting the Golden Gate Regional Championship (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=91388) or just simply getting classified in IDPA. Space is limited and priority will be given to those who are signing up for the Regional Match.

Details:
- Start time @ 930am. Please be ready to start shooting at that time
- $10/gun with which you want to classify
- Minimum of 90 rounds required (more if you want to re-shoot any of the stages to attempt to improve your score)
- Hat, sunscreen and bottled water recommended
- No concealment garment needed for a Classifier
- Location: Richmond Rod & Gun Club (3155 Goodrick Ave., Richmond (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3155+Goodrick+Ave.,+Richmond,+ca&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=44.879582,85.078125&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=37.97646,-122.365272&spn=0.01096,0.020771&z=16&iwloc=addr&iwstate1=dir))

We currently have eight shooters signed up, and can accomodate eight more. To sign up, send an email to me at jim@goldengate-idpa.com.

If you are interested in starting in IDPA, a Classifier Match is a great first step, since there is less movement than a normal match, and you do not have to wear a concealment garment over your gun (i.e. jacket, vest, etc.).

A full description of a Classifier Match can be found beginning on page 66 of the IDPA rulebook (http://www.idpa.com/Documents/IDPARuleBook2005.pdf).

You can also now join IDPA online (https://www272.safesecureweb.com/IDPA/ssl/app.asp).

mecam
05-20-2008, 4:41 PM
We currently have eight shooters signed up, and can accomodate eight more. To sign up, send an email to me at jim@goldengate-idpa.com.

I'm one of them and I just received my IDPA card last week. :) The way I shot at Chabot's match last week, I might end up in the ESP Novice class. :o

uscbigdawg
05-20-2008, 5:05 PM
How often will y'all run the classifier. IDPA is a sport I've wanted to add and have yet to find a place that runs it regularly.

Thanks,

Rich

ETA: Can we shoot more than one gun at a time?

Gryff
05-20-2008, 6:24 PM
How often will y'all run the classifier. IDPA is a sport I've wanted to add and have yet to find a place that runs it regularly.

Rich,

Most clubs hold one per year, but we're running several to get people qualified for the regional match we're holding in July.

Aside from the one on the 31st, we'll hold another on Saturday, June 21st. It will probably be awhile before we hold another one.

Keep in mind that you can also start by shooting a regular match. If you are instinctively safe with your handgun (muzzle awareness, finger out of trigger guard when moving/reloading), and you take things slowly, there is no reason you can't start by coming to a regular match.

Richmond (http://www.richmondhotshots.com) holds matches every other month, but because the next match (July) is the regional championship (http://www.goldengate-idpa.com), we won't have a regular "local" match until September.

I don't know where you are located, but there is a club outside of Sacramento (http://www.sdps-idpa.org) that holds monthly matches. Good bunch of people, and very welcoming to new competitors.

Hope this helps. Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions.

Jim

Gryff
05-20-2008, 6:30 PM
Can we shoot more than one gun at a time?

No, you can only have one gun on you at a time. :38:

But you can register for the classifier for more than one division. The hard part is the timing. We don't want the event to drag on all day, so everyone will shoot stage 1, then everyone shoots stage 2, etc.

If you are going to classify in two different divisions, then you need to move to the Safe Area to gear up and change guns, and then get back to shoot the 2nd gun on the same stage before we've moved to the next stage. We won't have time to run you through all the stages with Gun #1, then start over with Gun #2.

If you are doing something like using a 1911 in .45acp to classify in CDP, and a 1911 in 9mm for ESP, and you use the same holster/mag pouches for each, then we can have you just switch the guns at the firing line. Otherwise, you have to change gear in the Safe Area. Do-able, just need to be prompt on swapping your gear each time.

Jim

uscbigdawg
05-21-2008, 3:20 PM
Jim,

I've shot IPSC for over 10 years and have won many stages and matches at Richmond. Thanks for the info and I'll be there in September probably shooting CDP or ESP. Basically, I've shot 3 IDPA matches in the past at the club level and won them. Not saying the same will happen at Richmond, but I like the mental challenge of IDPA. Besides...it's another game to play. ;)

By more than one gun, I meant running the classifier in more than one division.

Rich

sargenv
05-21-2008, 6:59 PM
I've seen Rich shoot.. he's mostly safe.. well, unless you're a target, then watch out! :hide:

Gryff
05-30-2008, 9:31 PM
For those of you who have signed up for tomorrow's classifier,

The fee is $10. I would appreciate it if you could bring the exact amount since I will little change on me.

You will need 90 rounds minimum. I recommend 120 to 150 in case you have to re-shoot any of the stages. Directions to the range can be found here:

http://richmondhotshots.com/directions.htm

Click here (http://jim.griffiths.home.comcast.net/classifier.pdf) to see the basic info on the Classifier in case you are not familiar with it.

Gryff
05-31-2008, 4:06 PM
Steve Cachia has already managed to get the results posted (thanks Steve!):

http://richmondhotshots.com/IDPA/results/05312008/2008-05-31.htm

uscbigdawg
06-01-2008, 4:25 AM
I've seen Rich shoot.. he's mostly safe.. well, unless you're a target, then watch out! :hide:

Thanks Vince. You still have to help me with all this wheelgun silliness. I need a bad *** revo for the IRC next year.

Rich

rivviepop
06-01-2008, 8:24 AM
I was out for a little IPSC practice and watched some of y'all classify, it looks like fun! Someone told me the next times I could go try out the IDPA but I already forgot - where's a schedule at (either Richmond or Chabot) with dates? It was June... 21st (22nd?) I think?

Caseless
06-01-2008, 12:34 PM
What a humbling experience. I had some misses on all three stages.
At least now I know the trick...accuracy before speed.:)

Anyone knows what gun Henrick uses? I think I need to watch him shoot next time.

mecam
06-01-2008, 12:41 PM
Anyone knows what gun Henrick uses? I think I need to watch him shoot next time.

Glock 34 with hollow points. He was on a mission. ;)

gose
06-03-2008, 8:51 AM
What a humbling experience. I had some misses on all three stages.
At least now I know the trick...accuracy before speed.:)

Anyone knows what gun Henrick uses? I think I need to watch him shoot next time.

Unfortunately my regular USPSA gun (CZ SP01) is too heavy to use in IDPA, so I had to use my G34 (stock, except the sights which are Dawson Precision). Ammunition was my USPSA load, 147gr Zero JHPs in front of 3.95gr VV 340, ~140 factor.

Yeah, accuracy definitely beats speed, especially when it's all limited round count.

Gryff
06-03-2008, 9:05 AM
I was out for a little IPSC practice and watched some of y'all classify, it looks like fun! Someone told me the next times I could go try out the IDPA but I already forgot - where's a schedule at (either Richmond or Chabot) with dates? It was June... 21st (22nd?) I think?

I post a NorCal pistol competition list every month. Here is June's (including the Classifier).

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=103025

I know, I need to add ICORE...

Caseless
06-03-2008, 10:06 AM
Unfortunately my regular USPSA gun (CZ SP01) is too heavy to use in IDPA, so I had to use my G34

A few people mentioned using lighter aluminum or wood grips to cut down the SP-01 stock weight so they can use it for IDPA.
http://czcustom.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=57&osCsid=376eefb9c8fc22cc86ab3775b58227d7

I considered buying a SP-01 for IDPA, but instead got a few SIG P6s. Personally I think using compacts fits the spirit of IDPA rules better.

rivviepop
06-03-2008, 10:29 AM
I post a NorCal pistol competition list every month. Here is June's (including the Classifier).

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=103025

I know, I need to add ICORE...

Seeing as how I sent you a PM about that, you'd think I'd know to look there. :-P

I joined the other night using the online form (woo); if I come out and classify as a first-time-IDPA-guy on the 21st, is that enough to qualify me for the Postal match the next day? Or do I have to be a member for XXX amount of time first before I'm allowed into the cool kids club...

All I wanna do is shoot muh wheelguns. the rest is icing on the cake. :)

Gryff
06-03-2008, 10:42 AM
Seeing as how I sent you a PM about that, you'd think I'd know to look there. :-P

I joined the other night using the online form (woo); if I come out and classify as a first-time-IDPA-guy on the 21st, is that enough to qualify me for the Postal match the next day? Or do I have to be a member for XXX amount of time first before I'm allowed into the cool kids club...

All I wanna do is shoot muh wheelguns. the rest is icing on the cake. :)

Troy,

Just responded to your email, but I'll post the info here, too.

You can shoot the Postal Match on the 22nd, even if you have only just classified on the 21st. Once you shoot the Classifier, you ARE classified. The trick is having the documentation to show the people in charge of the Postal Match. Since they are one and the same at Richmond...

We are also pretty good about uploading Classifier results to HQ promptly, so you can see your status in the Members Only area of the IDPA website usually within 8-12 hours of the match.

See you on the 21st and 22nd,

Jim

rivviepop
06-05-2008, 9:11 AM
Can someone explain the idea of classifying with more than one gun to me? Is this the part about "backup gun" that they indicate (in the rules) is club specific, or is this like if you want to classify with a revolver and a semiauto? Do we do the backup gun concept at Richmond?

If you classify with one gun, can you shoot a match with another similar gun but not the exact one you classified with? (i.e. I classify with a .357 4" revolver, but decide to shoot a .357 3" revolver instead)

Gryff
06-05-2008, 9:28 AM
Can someone explain the idea of classifying with more than one gun to me? ...is this like if you want to classify with a revolver and a semiauto? Do we do the backup gun concept at Richmond?

If you classify with one gun, can you shoot a match with another similar gun but not the exact one you classified with? (i.e. I classify with a .357 4" revolver, but decide to shoot a .357 3" revolver instead)

There are five gun divisions in IDPA:

Custom Defensive Pistol (CDP)
- Any .45acp pistol, but no more than eight rounds in the mags
- Power factor floor (bullet weight X velocity) is 165,000

Enhanced Service Pistol (ESP)
- Single-action pistols such as Hi-Power, XD, 1911 in 9mm or .40S&W
- XDs are in this division because ATFE has ruled their triggers "single-action"

Stock Service Pistol (SSP)
- Double-action or DA/SA pistols such as Beretta, Sig, HK
- Glocks and S&W M&Ps fit in this division because the ATFE has ruled their trigger systems "double-action"

Enhanced Service Revolver (ESR)
- Revolvers utilizing moon clips
- Power factor floor is 165,000
- Six round limit in gun

Stock Service Revolver (SSR)
- Revolvers using speed loaders
- Power factor floor is 125,000
- Six rounds max in the gun

So, to answer your questions, you can classify in as many of these divisions as you want. You are also allowed to hold different classifications across divisions (i.e. ESP Expert, but maybe only SSR Marksman).

Once you classify in a division, you may use ANY division-legal gun legal when competing in that division.

If you are not classified in a division (CDP, for example), but want to shoot in it at a local match, you will have to compete in the class at which you hold your highest classification. That means that if I am an ESP Expert and SSP Sharpshooter, and want to compete in CDP, I would have to compete as CDP Expert. Once I actually classify in CDP, I compete at whatever level I classified.

Hope this helps.

rivviepop
06-05-2008, 9:55 AM
Hope this helps.

Absolutely, thanks - I had misunderstood classifying, I thought it was per-gun (like a CCW) but now understand it's per-division. :)