Full Automatics in Vegas

[ajl2121]

Hello.

I see signs and advertising for fully automatic weapons at a shooting range in Las Vegas. I thought the national ban of 1934 prohibited all fully automatics for civilians.

How does this "store" acquire them...Anyone have any information regarding the legal aspects of this shooting range?

[Stormfeather]

1994 ban expired in 2004, it was only a 10 year ban, and it didnt really affect full autos outside of california after it expired.

[MrTuffPaws]

It is perfectly legal to own a full auto in NV if you do the paperwork.

I shot a Thompson while I was there. The most fun I had with $100 while I was there.

[Shane916]

Hello.

I see signs and advertising for fully automatic weapons at a shooting range in Las Vegas. I thought the national ban of 1934 prohibited all fully automatics for civilians.

How does this "store" acquire them...Anyone have any information regarding the legal aspects of this shooting range?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

[wilit]

1994 ban expired in 2004, it was only a 10 year ban, and it didnt really affect full autos outside of california after it expired.

That's the Fed AW ban, nothing to do with NFA stuff.

The 1934 National Firearms Act does not BAN anything. Even back then they knew a total ban would be against the 2A. So they "regulate" it by requiring a tax stamp for a suppressor, full auto, short-barreled shotgun or rifle. Back then, the $200 was twice the cost of a Thompson, so it effectively kept firearms out of the hands of most civilians. Today it's a mere inconvenience. I believe there are only 8 or so states that outright forbid NFA items. Technically California is not one of them. You can own one with a permit from the CA DOJ. Good luck though. There are people out there with them however.

[ke6guj]

The National Firearms Act of 1934 did not ban MGs, SBSs, SBRs, and suppressors, it just severly taxed and regulated possession.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

In many states, as long as you can legally possess them per state law, you can submit the paperwork and the proper tax payment and own an NFA firearm.

Be aware that since MGs have additional regulations placed on them by the 1986 ban on new civilian MG, the price has skyrocketed. Prices start in the $5,000 range and rapidly progress northward, depending on the item.

[Riodog]

IRC, there are 37 states that allow full auto's-> machine guns, sub machine guns in civilian hands. The 94 ban was for "assault weapons" not machine guns. Some states allow silencers, AOW's, etc. Around here, AZ, NV, NM, TX, UT, CO, allow their citizens that freedom however Calif.'s subjects are not allowed to possess such items.( I think Bill and the gang are working on the AOW issue). I spent countless hours trying for the ability to [possess a subgun in Calif. and it really was a waste of time.
Rio

[crush_opposition]

I went there once..they have a few cool things. I can't say its worth the money though...well it would be worth it if you have never fired full auto before. "cause lets face it..full auto = full smile.

[gcvt]

It is perfectly legal to own a full auto in NV if you do the paperwork.

I shot a Thompson while I was there. The most fun I had with $100 while I was there.

How long ago was that? I researched this for a bachelor party about 2-1/2 years ago and remember it being so expensive that it was cheaper to go to a strip club :eek:

[Quiet]

How long ago was that? I researched this for a bachelor party about 2-1/2 years ago and remember it being so expensive that it was cheaper to go to a strip club :eek:

Had to be a few years ago.
Now a days most places in Vegas charge about a $1 a round through a MG.

[redcliff]

Read this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=93372&highlight=vegas

Do not pass Go. Do not spend $200.00 with the jerks as "the Gun Store".

[MrTuffPaws]

How long ago was that? I researched this for a bachelor party about 2-1/2 years ago and remember it being so expensive that it was cheaper to go to a strip club :eek:

2004ish. I can't really recall. I only got 4 mags or 30 rounds each.

[gcvt]

2004ish. I can't really recall. I only got 4 mags or 30 rounds each.

I did a fair amount of research back then. So, I guess it's just become a lot more expensive...at least between 2004ish and November 2005. I'd be interested to hear current prices.

As the best man, I really wanted to take the groom out for some fun shooting because he's a fellow firearm enthusiast. We probably should have snuck off on our own to go shooting...too many people voted against the shooting trip because of the high cost.

The strippers were fantastic though :D

[tow4dough]

who can afford full auto anyway, even with un restrictive laws
an AK-47 with a cycle rate of 500 rds per min
7.62x39 @ $100 per 500 rds= $6,000 an hour to feed that thing

gun control isn't the issue,bullet control is where they win they'll just make ammo so expensive it cost to much too shoot

[Stormfeather]

That's the Fed AW ban, nothing to do with NFA stuff.

The 1934 National Firearms Act does not BAN anything. Even back then they knew a total ban would be against the 2A. So they "regulate" it by requiring a tax stamp for a suppressor, full auto, short-barreled shotgun or rifle. Back then, the $200 was twice the cost of a Thompson, so it effectively kept firearms out of the hands of most civilians. Today it's a mere inconvenience. I believe there are only 8 or so states that outright forbid NFA items. Technically California is not one of them. You can own one with a permit from the CA DOJ. Good luck though. There are people out there with them however.

my bad, it was late and I was packing for Area 52, so my brain is on auto-pilot. . . I will defer to Wilits knowledge on this!

[ajl2121]

I see...Thanks fellas